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Reply #30 posted 04/30/04 10:02am

TheLodger

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

TheLodger said:

Exactly, he needs to cut another lp in the vain of SOTT meets Dirty Mind
Get some guitar in there man
When he does "white rock", he does it oh so well!

"he needs to"...why?


Simply coz he does that best
His RnB compositions don't even come anywhere near the best in that genre
Until such time as they do, he should just cut his loses and move on..
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Reply #31 posted 04/30/04 10:06am

TheLodger

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

2freaky4church1 said:

He can't just pander to R&B radio. He has to get the rock audience back.

"he has to"...why?



There's nothing wrong in recapturing your audience, and 'that' audience was lost a long time ago... he needs to play the field now and stop marginalising himself from the greater potential success that awaits him
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Reply #32 posted 04/30/04 10:16am

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I think that [insert Musicology track under discussion here] is the wrong single for [insert type of chart/country here], he needs to release a track more in the vein of [name hot artist/group here], he should release [insert personal favourite track from Musicology here].

For example, [Call My Name] is the wrong single for [the pop charts in the Uk], he needs to release a track more in the vein of [The Darkness], he should release [The Marrying Kind].

Or [The Marrying Kind] is the wrong single for [the r'n'b chart in the USA], he needs to release a track more in the vein of [Outkast], he should release [Illusion, Coma, Pimp and Circumstance].

And I stand unreservedly by my opinion on this matter.
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Reply #33 posted 04/30/04 10:21am

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Call my name is far too sophisticated a song to hit the UK top 40.

If he released Life O the Party here, despite the majority of us thinking it's weak, he'd have a hit. Sounds bizarre, that's what'd happen though.
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Reply #34 posted 04/30/04 11:12am

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Marrk said:

Call my name is far too sophisticated a song to hit the UK top 40.

If he released Life O the Party here, despite the majority of us thinking it's weak, he'd have a hit. Sounds bizarre, that's what'd happen though.



No, no!
I'd rather have a special 6 track cd of 'Call My Name' (again & again dub) than ever have 'Life 'o' NO Party' grace any other release!
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Reply #35 posted 04/30/04 11:44am

Handclapsfinga
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TheLodger said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


"he needs to"...why?


Simply coz he does that best
His RnB compositions don't even come anywhere near the best in that genre
Until such time as they do, he should just cut his loses and move on..

not an acceptable answer. hmph!
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Reply #36 posted 04/30/04 11:45am

Handclapsfinga
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TheLodger said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


"he has to"...why?



There's nothing wrong in recapturing your audience, and 'that' audience was lost a long time ago... he needs to play the field now and stop marginalising himself from the greater potential success that awaits him

geez...i bet you're one of those eeeeevil hohnerists, too...disbelief ill!
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Reply #37 posted 04/30/04 11:46am

SassyBritches

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

TheLodger said:

Exactly, he needs to cut another lp in the vain of SOTT meets Dirty Mind
Get some guitar in there man
When he does "white rock", he does it oh so well!

"he needs to"...why?

because he is looking for commercial success.
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Reply #38 posted 04/30/04 11:48am

Drkman

Prince is at a point in his career where he doesn't play the singles game the way everyone else does anymore.....

I don't think it's that important to him.....

been there done that

The charts are over-rated and he recognizes that
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Reply #39 posted 04/30/04 11:52am

Marrk

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TheLodger said:

Marrk said:

Call my name is far too sophisticated a song to hit the UK top 40.

If he released Life O the Party here, despite the majority of us thinking it's weak, he'd have a hit. Sounds bizarre, that's what'd happen though.



No, no!
I'd rather have a special 6 track cd of 'Call My Name' (again & again dub) than ever have 'Life 'o' NO Party' grace any other release!


me too, just telling it like it is.
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Reply #40 posted 04/30/04 11:53am

Handclapsfinga
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SassyBritches said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


"he needs to"...why?

because he is looking for commercial success.

when'd he say he was? all these interviews as of late, in print and spoken, and never the once have i seen or heard p say anything to the tune of "ohmigod, i'm back cuz i need a hit!"
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Reply #41 posted 04/30/04 11:55am

SassyBritches

Drkman said:

Prince is at a point in his career where he doesn't play the singles game the way everyone else does anymore.....

I don't think it's that important to him.....

been there done that

The charts are over-rated and he recognizes that

prince cares about charts. if he didn't, he would not have gone on this commercial escapade. sony, videos, greatest hits tour, interviews, viacom deals, etc.
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Reply #42 posted 04/30/04 11:56am

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not a bad song, but won't make waves much. I prefer to hear Illusion Coma Pimp and Circumstance as the second single. Much better sounding for the funk audience out ther, imo.
Walking alone in the dark, I see nothing u see
I can be in a park, or flying in the…in the deep sea
I wish u’d hold my hand; then everything could b
There’s nothing strange, we’re not deranged
We only want everyday 2 b a Cosmic Day
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Reply #43 posted 04/30/04 11:58am

SassyBritches

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

SassyBritches said:


because he is looking for commercial success.

when'd he say he was? all these interviews as of late, in print and spoken, and never the once have i seen or heard p say anything to the tune of "ohmigod, i'm back cuz i need a hit!"

when he said that he wanted a major label to distribute this cd. also, when he said that he had a pop record and wanted it to be available to the public, rather than his small fan community.
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Reply #44 posted 04/30/04 12:01pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He can't just pander to R&B radio. He has to get the rock audience back.


Trying to get the "rockers" is exactly the way to assure this album dies along with his
comeback. R&B listeners over 30 WERE his core! Those that started with him but lost interest during the 90's. "Call My Name" is a message to them (us) he is back! That's the one song, that when I play it for old school Prince fans peaks their interest in the album. It's one of the few songs on the album that sounds like vintage Prince. It's best choice for the next single. Hell it should have been the first!
Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
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Reply #45 posted 04/30/04 12:01pm

Drkman

SassyBritches said:

Drkman said:

Prince is at a point in his career where he doesn't play the singles game the way everyone else does anymore.....

I don't think it's that important to him.....

been there done that

The charts are over-rated and he recognizes that

prince cares about charts. if he didn't, he would not have gone on this commercial escapade. sony, videos, greatest hits tour, interviews, viacom deals, etc.



He's just playing the game
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Reply #46 posted 04/30/04 12:06pm

SassyBritches

Drkman said:

SassyBritches said:


prince cares about charts. if he didn't, he would not have gone on this commercial escapade. sony, videos, greatest hits tour, interviews, viacom deals, etc.



He's just playing the game

and if he didn't care, he wouldn't play the game. he hasn't played the game since 1999 so why, in 2004, does he suddenly feel the need to play the game? for commercial success.
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Reply #47 posted 04/30/04 12:16pm

Drkman

SassyBritches said:

Drkman said:




He's just playing the game

and if he didn't care, he wouldn't play the game. he hasn't played the game since 1999 so why, in 2004, does he suddenly feel the need to play the game? for commercial success.


He did the samne thing for Emacipation.....Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic....The Gold Experience.....

All had singles & videos.....The appearances singles and concerts is what he does for a living.....

If the result is a hit single great but he has so much fun making and playing the music he finds himself in a satisfying cycle.....

The charts are over-rated
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Reply #48 posted 04/30/04 12:17pm

TheLodger

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

TheLodger said:



Simply coz he does that best
His RnB compositions don't even come anywhere near the best in that genre
Until such time as they do, he should just cut his loses and move on..

not an acceptable answer. hmph!


... and your response is hot shit?! lol
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Reply #49 posted 04/30/04 12:19pm

Handclapsfinga
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TheLodger said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


not an acceptable answer. hmph!


... and your response is hot shit?! lol

it's better'n the "his r & b stuff doesn't cut it" retort.
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Reply #50 posted 04/30/04 12:20pm

TheLodger

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Drkman said:

Prince is at a point in his career where he doesn't play the singles game the way everyone else does anymore.....

I don't think it's that important to him.....

been there done that

The charts are over-rated and he recognizes that



Of course it matters to him, why launch a world tour with max publicity and resign to a label otherwise?
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Reply #51 posted 04/30/04 12:21pm

2freaky4church
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So he can have all around respect.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #52 posted 04/30/04 12:21pm

TheLodger

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Marrk said:

TheLodger said:




No, no!
I'd rather have a special 6 track cd of 'Call My Name' (again & again dub) than ever have 'Life 'o' NO Party' grace any other release!


me too, just telling it like it is.



Thank god for that! wink
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Reply #53 posted 04/30/04 12:23pm

Joi

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

SassyBritches said:


because he is looking for commercial success.

when'd he say he was? all these interviews as of late, in print and spoken, and never the once have i seen or heard p say anything to the tune of "ohmigod, i'm back cuz i need a hit!"


True...and I don't care if the general public buys it or not. As far as the 'white rock' thing goes, I guess I can see why some haters are crapping on 'Musicology'. Too much RnB, too many black folks in the video. Spike sure called it in 'Do The Right Thing'.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 30 12:23:49 2004 by Joi]
[This message was edited Fri Apr 30 12:24:21 2004 by Joi]
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Reply #54 posted 04/30/04 12:23pm

Drkman

TheLodger,


Insatiable
Let's Work
Do Me Baby
I Wanna Be Your Lover

All classic R&B grooves
You have to remember when he first started the record companies only were receptive to black artists that would play R&B

He gradually "broke the rules" as his popularity grew
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Reply #55 posted 04/30/04 12:26pm

TheLodger

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SassyBritches said:

Drkman said:

Prince is at a point in his career where he doesn't play the singles game the way everyone else does anymore.....

I don't think it's that important to him.....

been there done that

The charts are over-rated and he recognizes that

prince cares about charts. if he didn't, he would not have gone on this commercial escapade. sony, videos, greatest hits tour, interviews, viacom deals, etc.



Exactly, even a blind man can see that!
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Reply #56 posted 04/30/04 12:37pm

TheLodger

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Joi said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


when'd he say he was? all these interviews as of late, in print and spoken, and never the once have i seen or heard p say anything to the tune of "ohmigod, i'm back cuz i need a hit!"


True...and I don't care if the general public buys it or not. As far as the 'white rock' thing goes, I guess I can see why some haters are crapping on 'Musicology'. Too much RnB, too many black folks in the video. Spike sure called it in 'Do The Right Thing'.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 30 12:23:49 2004 by Joi]
[This message was edited Fri Apr 30 12:24:21 2004 by Joi]


I won't even attempt to argue with a guy with a 'Fro as serious as urs! Respect, lol
I used to have that promo poster btw

Anyway, back to the case at hand, talkin' about black and whte sound is one thing, but let's not confuse that with racial stero-typing
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Reply #57 posted 04/30/04 12:38pm

Drkman

TheLodger said:

Drkman said:

Prince is at a point in his career where he doesn't play the singles game the way everyone else does anymore.....

I don't think it's that important to him.....

been there done that

The charts are over-rated and he recognizes that



Of course it matters to him, why launch a world tour with max publicity and resign to a label otherwise?


But I bet you care more than he does.....
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Reply #58 posted 04/30/04 12:42pm

Drkman

Prince knows that he can pop at any time...at will.....

He's picking now as the time to do it.....

If it was just about having hits and making the charts he would have released the recordings that only us as real fans know that would have been hits but end up being bootlegs or B-sides
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Reply #59 posted 04/30/04 12:48pm

SassyBritches

like talkin' to a brick wall sometimes...
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