independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > album debuts at #3
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 04/27/04 2:59pm

alandail

album debuts at #3

final numbers here

http://www.hitsdailydoubl...lescht.cgi

1 - USHER - 257,074
2 - MARIO WINANS - 235,494
3 - PRINCE - 172,349
4 - NOW 15 - 100,412

big enough gap that the 17k concert giveaways won't have any impact at all. Now if they could count all of the concert giveaways for the week, he'd have a shot at #1. As it is, someone said a #3 debut may be the highest a Prince album has ever debuted.

Anyone know what Around the world in a day and Batman soundtrack debuted at? Those seem the most likely of the ones that weren't listed before to have had a high debut.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 04/27/04 3:03pm

maplesyrupnjam

avatar

Around the World in a Day and Batman debuted in my house in 1985 and 1989 respectively. Charts wise ...not really sure..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 04/27/04 3:17pm

FunkyMan

Both ATWIAD and Batman would have debuted before Soundscan, so they would have had that old build up on the charts. Nowadays, established artists often make their highest debuts in the first week because Soundscan can chart all the people who rush out to buy the album...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 04/27/04 3:56pm

Aerogram

avatar

I'm pretty sure ATWIAD debuted in the top 3 -- at number 1 I think, then quickly fallingé
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 04/27/04 4:01pm

Anxiety

Aerogram said:

I'm pretty sure ATWIAD debuted in the top 3 -- at number 1 I think, then quickly fallingé


Yup, I'm fairly certain ATWIAD debuted at number one...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 04/27/04 4:03pm

bkw

avatar

Anxiety said:

Aerogram said:

I'm pretty sure ATWIAD debuted in the top 3 -- at number 1 I think, then quickly fallingé


Yup, I'm fairly certain ATWIAD debuted at number one...

It debuted at number one and stayed there for 3 weeks according to my alcohol effected memory. biggrin
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 04/27/04 4:23pm

suedehead

avatar

Am I the first to say, well done, Prince!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 04/27/04 4:34pm

manonearth

avatar

around the world in day debuted at number 1 and stayed there 3 weeks

batman did the same #1 stayed there 6 weeks..

parade # 3
grafiti bridge #3
sign o the times #6
lovesexy # 11
diamonds and pearls #3
symbol # 5
gold experience # 6
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 04/27/04 4:42pm

manonearth

avatar

oh by the way, that info is provided from the book Billboard top pop albums 1955-1996


welcome
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 04/27/04 4:52pm

mattmcbr

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 04/27/04 5:01pm

purplecam

avatar

mattmcbr said:

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?

It sure is sad. Shows you where our world is today. But in the end, it great to see Prince debut so high. He deserves it. Now can he stay there.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 04/27/04 5:03pm

PurpleKnight

avatar

mattmcbr said:

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?


Yeah, but I remember some article that said the priced download of the entire album at NPGMC had like 500,000 customers. So, that combined with the sales of the album makes for a damn good final result so far of ppl who were willing to pay for the new music.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 04/27/04 5:12pm

lovemachine

avatar

PurpleKnight said:

mattmcbr said:

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?


[color=mediumpurple:10d1e07443]Yeah, but I remember some article that said the priced download of the entire album at NPGMC had like 500,000 customers. So, that combined with the sales of the album makes for a damn good final result so far of ppl who were willing to pay for the new music.[/color]


That's dollars not customers and a good portion of that would be the live stuff, Chocolate Invasion and Slaughterhouse.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 04/27/04 5:13pm

SassyBritches

mattmcbr said:

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?
nah, not really. mario is getting a lot of radio AND video support. prince is getting lots of press but unless you watch videos, you haven't really heard the new music. hopefully radio will cave soon and start playing more from the record.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 04/27/04 5:17pm

TheGoldExperie
nce

172,349 subtracted by 100,000 concert tickets sold within the past week = 72,349 copies sold in the US.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 17:18:04 2004 by TheGoldExperience]
Hey look, it's The Artist Formely Known To Sell Records nana evillol oral
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 04/27/04 5:28pm

PurpleKnight

avatar

TheGoldExperience said:

172,349 subtracted by 100,000 concert tickets sold within the past week = 72,349 copies sold in the US.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 17:18:04 2004 by TheGoldExperience]


What the fuck are you talking about? Billboard officially stated that they'd only be counting that one concert of 17,000 CDs "given" away for the first week's tally.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 04/27/04 5:33pm

Mazerati

avatar

mattmcbr said:

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?



OK 1 MORE TIME the numbers you see today are actual sales and NOT the cd's givin away at the concert..and there are ONLY about 17,500 to be added....

anyway you have to remember these factors
1. many people downloaded the album already on the music club & several thousand free cd's from earlier concerts were not counted in this weeks total
2.Mario's song got played over 8,000 times this week on top 40 radio to Musicology's NONE
3.and Prince's last album to chart The Rainbow Choldran only got to #108 on the billboard chart

far from sad
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 04/27/04 5:34pm

Mazerati

avatar

TheGoldExperience said:

172,349 subtracted by 100,000 concert tickets sold within the past week = 72,349 copies sold in the US.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 17:18:04 2004 by TheGoldExperience]


YOU CANT be this effin dumb...can you?
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 04/27/04 5:35pm

PurpleKnight

avatar

Mazerati said:

mattmcbr said:

Kinda sad that he couldn't beat Mario Winans with all this promotion and "free" sales from the concerts...Usher is understandable...but MARIO WINANS?



OK 1 MORE TIME the numbers you see today are actual sales and NOT the cd's givin away at the concert..and there are ONLY about 17,500 to be added....

anyway you have to remember these factors
1. many people downloaded the album already on the music club & several thousand free cd's from earlier concerts were not counted in this weeks total
2.Mario's song got played over 8,000 times this week on top 40 radio to Musicology's NONE
3.and Prince's last album to chart The Rainbow Choldran only got to #108 on the billboard chart

far from sad


Yes, thank you. Very well said.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 04/27/04 5:35pm

SassyBritches

TheGoldExperience said:

172,349 subtracted by 100,000 concert tickets sold within the past week = 72,349 copies sold in the US.
[This message was edited Tue Apr 27 17:18:04 2004 by TheGoldExperience]

lol have you not read ANY of the articles and posts about the subject?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 04/27/04 5:36pm

Bull

avatar

The 17K CD's from the concerts were not added to the total yet. The official tally will be on Thurs.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 04/27/04 5:38pm

MendesCity

avatar

Don't even get this silliness started again. I swear, TGE must be Enya's publicist or something.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 04/27/04 5:38pm

TheGoldExperie
nce

In another thread, I've already proven why that's false.
Hey look, it's The Artist Formely Known To Sell Records nana evillol oral
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 04/27/04 5:40pm

PurpleKnight

avatar

And GoldExperience, I'm gonna say this once.

The only CDs that are gonna be officially counted towards the first week's sales total are that one concert of about 17,000 albums. This has been officially stated as a FACT.

Besides, an album doesn't count as a sold copy, even as a giveaway at a concert, until the person has physically received it at the concert itself. That's why the concert copies have soundscan on the back of them.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 04/27/04 6:01pm

alandail

TheGoldExperience said:

In another thread, I've already proven why that's false.


And Billboard published and article that proves you are wrong.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 04/27/04 7:12pm

VoicesCarry

PurpleKnight said:

[color=mediumpurple:efdbf4fc22]And GoldExperience, I'm gonna say this once.

The only CDs that are gonna be officially counted towards the first week's sales total are that one concert of about 17,000 albums. This has been officially stated as a FACT.

Besides, an album doesn't count as a sold copy, even as a giveaway at a concert, until the person has physically received it at the concert itself. That's why the concert copies have soundscan on the back of them.[/color]


thumbs up!

Histdailydouble numbers are over-the-counter reports only. These don't include the concert giveaways. So add 17 000 to that total.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 04/27/04 7:39pm

manonearth

avatar

whats with the influx of loosers on the org lately? why are some prince fans so bitter about his success? makes no sense...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 04/27/04 7:45pm

ultrraviolette

avatar

it's so great to see Prince back at the top, when it comes down to it who cares about all the facts, figures, and statistics? it's just nice to see him getting the spotlight again like he richly deserves. nod
...:...Must I become naked?
No image at all?
Shall I remain upright?
Or get down and crawl?...:...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 04/27/04 7:47pm

SassyBritches

ultrraviolette said:

it's so great to see Prince back at the top, when it comes down to it who cares about all the facts, figures, and statistics? it's just nice to see him getting the spotlight again like he richly deserves. nod

yup! the sales and press is great fun but more importantly, its just awesome to see him get some props!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 04/27/04 7:52pm

Supernova

avatar

manonearth said:

whats with the influx of loosers on the org lately? why are some prince fans so bitter about his success? makes no sense...

Issues.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > album debuts at #3