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Printable RodeoSchro said: LOL, I read some of your posts. You are much more well-thought-out than Bart. I barely remember Bart at all. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: RodeoSchro said: LOL, I read some of your posts. You are much more well-thought-out than Bart. I barely remember Bart at all. Bart is that yellow kid who always said "Eat my shorts." Prince proved the haters wrong get over it and welcome to 2004. "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: EvilWhiteMale said: I barely remember Bart at all. Bart is that yellow kid who always said "Eat my shorts." Prince proved the haters wrong get over it and welcome to 2004. And where's TGE, aka, I can prove scientifically that 100,000 of the concert CDs will be counted? | |
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Haters say what you want, it doesn't take away from the fact that; Prince both musically (as always) and commercially is KICKIN ASS!!! Now doesn't the overwhelming gayness coming from this site make you wanna puke. So go stick your head in a toilet and leave it there!
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Congrats to Prince.  Great news. But I'm loving this CD so much, I wouldn't have cared if it entered at 103. With tonights TV specials, the continuing tour, the sure to be released dvd of the Staples Center show, etc., it should continue to do well, chart wise.
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OdysseyMiles said: chiltonmusic said: Hey why is it that they only counted the CD's from one concert. I read an article on eonline that said his total with the concerts alone would be 400,000. Any idea why they did not count the ones from Staples etc.?
Peace I think they meant over the course of the tour. They could only start counting the concert cds given out since the street date - 04/20/04. Oh okay thanks for the clarification. THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!! | |
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TheBluePrince said: Haters say what you want, it doesn't take away from the fact that; Prince both musically (as always) and commercially is KICKIN ASS!!! Now doesn't the overwhelming gayness coming from this site make you wanna puke. So go stick your head in a toilet and leave it there!
"Gayness"? I wish... | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: #3, big fuckin whoop. Good promotion, low competition, and CD's sold with concert tickets don't make for a good album. When other artists like Marilyn Manson hit #1 (as he did last year), I bet some of you same people think that means absolutely nothing. But now Musicology is #3, WHOA, LOOK OUT, PRINCE IS BACK.....gimmie a fuckin break.
 
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dont most albums second week sales dip about 40% from the first week? so if prince sold 170000 his second week may rouhgly be 115000 (presume that the mtv specials and shit help keep this average as opposed to it dipping more), add between 75 and 100k for "giveaway/concert sold" cds, and its over 200k, more than this week! so he could stay at number 2, or, presuming usher and mario wayans dip, actually rise to number one. but i think someone mentioned d12 so presumably they are releasing an album which will easily get to number (arent hip hop albums famous for selling most in the first week then dipping rapidly?)
as for the manson thing, im not sure of your point? if manson hadnt had a notable single/album in 10 years, completely fucked up his career, changed his name to a symbol etc, then released what alot of critics called shite noodly albums, then suddenly made it to number 3 as a comeback, im sure plenty of people here would say thats a great achievement. also it would have been 3 without the cd "giveaway". out of interest (and i dont mean this as a flame) what was mansons "competition" last year? plus, and im not saying you said this, but all the shit about prince never selling well again made by what people call the "haters" on the org never mentioned promotion, its like saying, he'll never sell again he's a has-been, then when he does, oh its down to promotion, but that wasnt quite the point. does that make sense? sorry if it doesnt! | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: #3, big fuckin whoop. Good promotion, low competition, and CD's sold with concert tickets don't make for a good album. When other artists like Marilyn Manson hit #1 (as he did last year), I bet some of you same people think that means absolutely nothing. But now Musicology is #3, WHOA, LOOK OUT, PRINCE IS BACK.....gimmie a fuckin break.
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2freaky4church1 said: With all the press I am not surprised. But remember, albums die fast on the charts these days. Just ask Pink or Michael Jackass.
He needs a killer second single to keep the sales booming. But he usually fucks up with how he picks singles. Very true that he needs a real hit single in order for the album to hold. "Rave"s top 20 debut wasn't bad considering it had only about half of the promotion of "Musicology" (which is still not a bad job at promoting it) but it sank because after the debut, there was no follow up. There needs to be at least 2 or 3 singles off this album or don't bother. | |
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VinnyM27 said: 2freaky4church1 said: With all the press I am not surprised. But remember, albums die fast on the charts these days. Just ask Pink or Michael Jackass.
He needs a killer second single to keep the sales booming. But he usually fucks up with how he picks singles. Very true that he needs a real hit single in order for the album to hold. "Rave"s top 20 debut wasn't bad considering it had only about half of the promotion of "Musicology" (which is still not a bad job at promoting it) but it sank because after the debut, there was no follow up. There needs to be at least 2 or 3 singles off this album or don't bother. Ok single suggestion: "Man in Ur Life". Throw in some controversy about it being about Mayte (which I think it is, as is "The Marrying Kind" interesting how those two songs blend into one another..) | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: #3, big fuckin whoop. Good promotion, low competition, and CD's sold with concert tickets don't make for a good album. When other artists like Marilyn Manson hit #1 (as he did last year), I bet some of you same people think that means absolutely nothing. But now Musicology is #3, WHOA, LOOK OUT, PRINCE IS BACK.....gimmie a fuckin break.
Haters in every1 hater in! ok, first off, Maryln Manson uses shock value to grab attention more-so and almost like Britney and sum others...but at least Maryln is a real musician. BUT on the ther hand...Maryln Mansons time is over because after "The Dope Show"...it was just like ok...he cant do anymore..he slipped back in2 the underground almost the same as Prince..who has been around for damn near 78 (was Maryln aound then?? NO!), is more popular than Maryln, music is much better and varied and funkier than Maryln's. Not 2 say that he's bad, but the man only does basic rock and/or punk. And these days, rock is dead. Oh and just 2 say this again... how in the world are u comparing sales of Marylins to Prince? U might as well say the same for usher, them damn dumb Now Cd's and who ever else went 2 #1 maryln Manson..big whoop..  Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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While I can see how this isn't necessarily concrete proof that Prince is "back," this is a pretty big achievement for him. Looking at TRC, NEWS, Rave, etc. in particular... "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Chacmool said: That is really quite excellent that Musicology opened at #3. And, according to the hitsdailydouble site, it beat out the next album, NOW 15 (one of those "hits of the last week" compilations), by a lot, roughly 70,000.
Mario Winan's album beat out Musicology by about 60,000 for the #2 spot, and Usher's was another 20,000 above that. The interesting question here is, do you think Musicology could have sold enough to move up to #2 (or even #1), had Prince not given out CDs at the shows? I honestly don't know how many people who attended concerts would have gone out to the record store after the show and bought the new CD. Many people may still have not realized the new disc was out even after seeing the show. But, with 14 shows before the South Carolina show that counted for sales, that would be a very rough estimate of 140,000-200,000 people who might be itching for the new Prince CD... Of course, the upside to having CDs from the shows count for sales is that it will help bolster Musicology on the charts for the duration of the tour, and hopefully keep it near the top for the next few weeks at least. I don't know that you this can be fairly considered - just my opinion. I tend to think that the album is selling as well as it is because of the generosity of giving these CD's away. Die-hard Prince fans, like me, buy every album that comes out at the recka-stow, but even if I wasn't a die-hard, I would have been impressed enough by the idea of giving CDs away, that I would have been influenced to buy. Eric | |
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Musicology at #3 - what a blessing! I am very happy for Prince. I think so many of his albums have gone overlooked since Diamonds and Pearls, amongst which are The Gold Experience and Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic.
This goes to show three things: 1) Prince "fams" have got to be THE MOST PATIENT FANS IN THE WORLD! 2) If you're a "fam", a good thing is so worth waiting for. 3) Prince has definitely been known for his rebellious streaks, and he also knows when to go with the flow. Congratulations are in order, Mr. Prince. You finally did what the members of your protege group, Good Question, asked you to do in 1988 - YOU SENT CHOCOLATES! Boy, do they taste good. | |
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skywalker said: Prince proved the haters wrong get over it and welcome to 2004.
What was proven wrong? "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: #3, big fuckin whoop. Good promotion, low competition, and CD's sold with concert tickets don't make for a good album. When other artists like Marilyn Manson hit #1 (as he did last year), I bet some of you same people think that means absolutely nothing. But now Musicology is #3, WHOA, LOOK OUT, PRINCE IS BACK.....gimmie a fuckin break.
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paisleypark4 said: Haters in every1 hater in!
ok, first off, Maryln Manson uses shock value to grab attention more-so and almost like Britney and sum others...but at least Maryln is a real musician. BUT on the ther hand...Maryln Mansons time is over because after "The Dope Show"...it was just like ok...he cant do anymore..he slipped back in2 the underground almost the same as Prince..who has been around for damn near 78 (was Maryln aound then?? NO!), is more popular than Maryln, music is much better and varied and funkier than Maryln's. Not 2 say that he's bad, but the man only does basic rock and/or punk. And these days, rock is dead. Oh and just 2 say this again... how in the world are u comparing sales of Marylins to Prince? U might as well say the same for usher, them damn dumb Now Cd's and who ever else went 2 #1 maryln Manson..big whoop.. The point is that a lot of people here say many of these artists are crap and their albums don't deserve to be hits, and charts mean nothing cuz people don't know what good music is. But now that Prince is on the charts, suddenly they mean something. Suddenly Prince is the only one worthy of being on the charts. If the charts meant nothing before, then they shouldn't mean anything now. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: paisleypark4 said: Haters in every1 hater in!
ok, first off, Maryln Manson uses shock value to grab attention more-so and almost like Britney and sum others...but at least Maryln is a real musician. BUT on the ther hand...Maryln Mansons time is over because after "The Dope Show"...it was just like ok...he cant do anymore..he slipped back in2 the underground almost the same as Prince..who has been around for damn near 78 (was Maryln aound then?? NO!), is more popular than Maryln, music is much better and varied and funkier than Maryln's. Not 2 say that he's bad, but the man only does basic rock and/or punk. And these days, rock is dead. Oh and just 2 say this again... how in the world are u comparing sales of Marylins to Prince? U might as well say the same for usher, them damn dumb Now Cd's and who ever else went 2 #1 maryln Manson..big whoop.. The point is that a lot of people here say many of these artists are crap and their albums don't deserve to be hits, and charts mean nothing cuz people don't know what good music is. But now that Prince is on the charts, suddenly they mean something. Suddenly Prince is the only one worthy of being on the charts. If the charts meant nothing before, then they shouldn't mean anything now. Come on, now... it's you who was expousing this whole view that Prince couldn't get a hit because his music isn't good. Or as you put it (approximately) "If it was any good it would have been a hit." Prince fans are just generally happy that his music is getting more exposure, that they are sharing their love for his music with more people. It's a nice feeling. If his music stops being as popular as it is now, it doesn't mean it's no longer good. That was the view ou were pushing. It was your thing. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: #3, big fuckin whoop. Good promotion, low competition, and CD's sold with concert tickets don't make for a good album. When other artists like Marilyn Manson hit #1 (as he did last year), I bet some of you same people think that means absolutely nothing. But now Musicology is #3, WHOA, LOOK OUT, PRINCE IS BACK.....gimmie a fuckin break.
Hi Migraine Boy...chance the subject, please...introduce us something clever than this same old tired speech  | |
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Aerogram said: Come on, now... it's you who was expousing this whole view that Prince couldn't get a hit because his music isn't good. Or as you put it (approximately) "If it was any good it would have been a hit."
Prince fans are just generally happy that his music is getting more exposure, that they are sharing their love for his music with more people. It's a nice feeling. If his music stops being as popular as it is now, it doesn't mean it's no longer good. That was the view ou were pushing. It was your thing. Well, let's see how long people listen to Musicology. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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go2theMax said: Hi Migraine Boy...chance the subject, please...introduce us something clever than this same old tired speech
Ignore me. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: #3, big fuckin whoop. Good promotion, low competition, and CD's sold with concert tickets don't make for a good album. When other artists like Marilyn Manson hit #1 (as he did last year), I bet some of you same people think that means absolutely nothing. But now Musicology is #3, WHOA, LOOK OUT, PRINCE IS BACK.....gimmie a fuckin break.
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preciosa863 said: zzzzz's Ignore me then. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: Aerogram said: Come on, now... it's you who was expousing this whole view that Prince couldn't get a hit because his music isn't good. Or as you put it (approximately) "If it was any good it would have been a hit."
Prince fans are just generally happy that his music is getting more exposure, that they are sharing their love for his music with more people. It's a nice feeling. If his music stops being as popular as it is now, it doesn't mean it's no longer good. That was the view ou were pushing. It was your thing. Well, let's see how long people listen to Musicology. Yeah, I guess that's the new standard now that Prince has charted in the top 5 against all your predictions. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: paisleypark4 said: Haters in every1 hater in!
ok, first off, Maryln Manson uses shock value to grab attention more-so and almost like Britney and sum others...but at least Maryln is a real musician. BUT on the ther hand...Maryln Mansons time is over because after "The Dope Show"...it was just like ok...he cant do anymore..he slipped back in2 the underground almost the same as Prince..who has been around for damn near 78 (was Maryln aound then?? NO!), is more popular than Maryln, music is much better and varied and funkier than Maryln's. Not 2 say that he's bad, but the man only does basic rock and/or punk. And these days, rock is dead. Oh and just 2 say this again... how in the world are u comparing sales of Marylins to Prince? U might as well say the same for usher, them damn dumb Now Cd's and who ever else went 2 #1 maryln Manson..big whoop.. The point is that a lot of people here say many of these artists are crap and their albums don't deserve to be hits, and charts mean nothing cuz people don't know what good music is. But now that Prince is on the charts, suddenly they mean something. Suddenly Prince is the only one worthy of being on the charts. If the charts meant nothing before, then they shouldn't mean anything now. Ok, I agree with you. People do say a lot of shit about other artists being crap and I do not agree with that mentality of not being in the game so I hope the old guy continues to give them hell, and fuck I'll give Prince credit! The guy is giving away the cd at the show! the shows are packed and he still goes to #3. Its really a question now will people start buying Musicology from word of mouth? Shit I don't know! I did not expect it to chart so high when when he was giving away the disc at shows. So do we count the cds he is giving away also?? So is this a case of the music promoting the music?? | |
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Aerogram said: Yeah, I guess that's the new standard now that Prince has charted in the top 5 against all your predictions.
What was my prediction? "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: Aerogram said: Yeah, I guess that's the new standard now that Prince has charted in the top 5 against all your predictions.
What was my prediction? Dude ya posted 6 times in a couple hours! Your flaming! | |
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realm said: Dude ya posted 6 times in a couple hours! Your flaming! I disagree. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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