maplesyrupnjam said:

Why do you think it's crap? I really don't get why people hate this album so much and then go on to rave over... well, Rave. Or The Gold Experience; or or S.N.O.O.Z.E.

Its all trés mysterious.

Sdldawn said:

I couldn't agree with this comment more. Call it what you want, it's still Prince. If he wants to label things with different personalities to compartmentalize what he feels are different styles or types of songs, that's fine with me. As long as we have a way of knowing that he's involved.

It's all Prince.

Keith/Kacey

Well Prince says it's an NPG album... end of argument.

Of course he wrote all the songs etc. but the bottom line is Prince wanted NPS viewed
differently than just a follow up album to Emancipation. He viewed it as an extension of
the NPG material, it's just that since he was now free from WB and the contractual red tape
he could now appear as himself, and put himself centre stage in the 'NPG' without causing
contractual problems (which was the only reason he hadn't done it already on Exodus).
If NPS is a 'Prince' album, then by the same reasoning, so should both the Madhouse albums.

If this is true then The Black Album isn't a Prince album either. His name isn't on it anywhere.

skywalker said:

Actually, had the Black Album been released in 1987 when it was supposed to have been,
you wouldn't have been far wrong. He viewed the black album as a 'side project' too, and
the fact that reviewers were viewing it a 'proper' Prince album, and the follow up to 'Sign O
The Times' was one of the contributing factors that lead to it being aborted.

BinaryJustin said:

I really don't get how someone can say NewPowerSoul is better then The Gold Experience. TGE was the last great Prince album--greater than Musicology.

I agree that NPS is a New Power Generation album recorded by Prince. Just like the first Time album was all Prince except for the lead vocals (but you can still hear Prince singing background on that one). I file it under 'N' in my CD collection.

I can understand it not necessarily being a Prince album just cause he composed, wrote, and produced all the songs, but come on, if he does all that and sings all the songs, then it's simply a Prince album.

He probably didn't want it to be recognized as an official Prince album cause he listened to it and realized it was really weak.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 28 12:59:30 2004 by PurpleKnight]

NewPowerSoul is different from a Prince album in the same way that Parliament, Funkadelic & George Clinton solo albums are all different. Interpret that any way you wish.

Was reading this Epic thread and figured I'd chime in.

I never though of NPS as anything BUT a Prince album. Take Prince out of this project and you have a CD filled with silence. Some if you may argue that silence is indeed better than NPS, but I disagree. Take it for what it is, NPS is NPS end of story. Enjoy it for what it is, and for what Prince was seemingly all about at that time.

To go further. Let me pose this for those that don't think this is a Prince album.

Saying NPS is not a Prince album is like saying all the songs Prince has written under the names Joey Coco, Alexander Nevermind, Camille, Spooky electric, etc.....are not Prince songs.

This is just my opinioin, I may be onto something here, I may not be, but this is how I have always viewed it.

Peace.

BorisFishpaw said:

Didn't I read somewhere that back in 87 before the album was withdrawn, a Warner Bros release schedule listed The Black Album by "Somebody". No mention of Prince. I think the intention was to quietly release the album and let it sell by word of mouth.

thewitney said:

An anorak like me wants to put his CDs in alphabetical order. NPS unner N ( NPG ) or P ( Prince ) ???? Me? I've got it under N with the rest of the NPG albums. Yawn!

FINALLY!!

LEADLINE hit it on the head.

"I never though of NPS as anything BUT a Prince album. Take Prince out of this project and you have a CD filled with silence. Some if you may argue that silence is indeed better than NPS, but I disagree. Take it for what it is, NPS is NPS end of story. Enjoy it for what it is, and for what Prince was seemingly all about at that time.

To go further. Let me pose this for those that don't think this is a Prince album.

Saying NPS is not a Prince album is like saying all the songs Prince has written under the names Joey Coco, Alexander Nevermind, Camille, Spooky electric, etc.....are not Prince songs."

Much respect. First of all, I'm a long-time Prince-Head, and I seem 2 B the only one at the org who likes NPS at all. His vocal arrangements on Freaks On This Side, etc... The horn arrangements, the go-go touch... we were rockin' this in D.C.

NOW... Here's one 4 ya... Prince played most all instruments and rythym tracks as well. I hear a trigger drum kit being used sometimes, where U think it's just a programmed beat.

I'm a Funk Guitarist, and I play Bass, Keys, and percussion. I was steeped in the Funk even before I discovered Prince. NPS has it's Funky moments that U must respect. Well... maybe not 'must'...

Peace,

G.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 28 13:43:53 2004 by Giovanni777]

I think the problem is that someone needs to define "Prince album." Does "Prince album" mean that Prince is the primary (solitary?) person involved in the recording? If so, then of course it's a Prince album. Or does "Prince album" mean it's credited to and should be filed under Prince. In that case, the answer is no. If he released an album under the name "Camille" then I'd file it under "C" and separate from my other Prince CDs. He obviously wanted it to be looked at differently than his other material and I do the same.

Don't ask me where I file all those weird symbol albums.

i swear if P said himself it wasnt a prince Album you guys would still be saying it is lol

PRINCE = NPG


what's the difference???

NPS isn't a Prince album to me anymore. Now its a great coaster. That's about all its worth. The worst album P was EVER associated with, and I include crap like TC Ellis in that!!

Are Wings Albums Paul McCartney Albums?

sextonseven said:

IF YOU DO THAT

YOU MIGHT AS WELL USE PRINCEBONIC TOO

sextonseven said:

At last... somebody 'gets it'.

If Newpower Soul is not a Prince lp. Then all the lps he recorded with the Symbol are not Prince lps either.

Why do people dislike this lp so much? I thought it was a nice record that was slept on.

More of a party lp like 1999. What is it that you don't like in particular? The lp is no different than say Lovesexy lp.

It really doesn't matter what the album cover says,it is a Prince album.He wrote all the songs,sings lead vocals on every song,and plays most if not all of the instruments.And his photo is on the cover!


Of course,considering how weak this album is,I can see why some of his fans would WANT to distance him from it

I liked New Power Soul a lot! I don't understand why people are player hating because he wrote an album black folks are more likely to dig. It is called New Power Soul afterall.

phlix said:

Weird black folks maybe.

phlix said:

Wha? WTF? He's done far more soulful albums than this. The main problem I have with NPS is that it lacks a whole lotta soul. Its plastic sounding, to say the least. I don't think its even remotely an album that most "black folks", as you put it, would like. In fact I would say its an album most human beings wouldn't care for. Prince's least inspired offering.

blackboab said:

wow, you figured this all out on your own? congratulations, nobody had ever noticed that before, it has only been discussed since 1998.

blackboab said:

Take another look...

Neversin.

JediMaster said:

The horns on this album are incredible. I really don't know what you're hearing. How can anybody prefer The Gold Experience over this album? Its mind-boggling.

BinaryJustin said:

NPS better than Graffiti Bridge??!!?!! What the fuck are you smokin'?? Or, at least stuffing in your ears??!! GB could only have one song on it (let's say, er...The ? Of U), and it would STILL be hotter than NPS!!