The CD giveaway at concerts is obviously catching a huge BUZZ in the industry (read LA TIMES article).....but some skeptics say "is it fair if Disneyland makes a deal with an artist and gives the cd away with a purchase of admission to the park, and that counts on the charts)

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL



HERE IS WHY:

when you go to a Prince concert, you are getting a Prince CD

If I buy a Soda at MacDonalds, I should get a Ronald McDonald CD

get my point?

You are paying to see Prince and the CD is from Prince

all these other comparisons are not the same at all

If anyone can point out all the levels of wrong in this thread, I will personally mail the winner a kick in the head.

Anxiety said:

Erm, you mean levels of right, right?

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[This message was edited Mon Apr 26 17:49:51 2004 by Taureau]

I mean, if you see anything right in this thread, you get a kick in the head by Anx?

Although I did find a hidden message:

jaynoonan said:

Other folks will have a tough time doing this at concerts. Prince has eliminated so much overhead, that he can prob cut a cd to ship for 5 bucks. That allow to fit into concert tix, and keep ticket price down.

good point, i hope the concert CDs count as sales.

They do all cd's given away after the offical release date of April 20th. I belive I saw it on this site. Since the price of the ticket includes the price of the cd's.

If this is true Prince marketing is pure genius.
[This message was edited Mon Apr 26 18:43:11 2004 by geegee]

jaynoonan said:

Macdonald's often do promotion deals with companies like Disney - giving free toys with every meal bought for example - and Macdonald's has nothing to do with the film or entertainment industry - but that makes no difference.

Disney does produce soundtracks to it's films - if it gave a film soundtrack to everyone who purchased a ticket to Disneyland, and that counts on the charts, would that be alright?

My prediction is that either loads of artists will jump on this bandwagon and start 'selling' albums with concert tickets, or the record business will get together and force Billboard or whoever to stop including these albums, since it largely takes them out of the loop.

In the first instance, prepare to see artists doing 7 dates in a row at huge stadiums on the week of the album's release, trying desperately to get a number one album!

was a smart move by prince
lol
he really wants to beat daimonds and pearls lol

The record companies will welcome this with open arms. Remember these are the same people that had to start adding extra DVD's and bonus stuff to their CD releases because sales had dropped so much. The fact that they could sell more CD's by adding them to the price of the ticket is music to their ears. I bet that they wish that they had come up with the idea first.

Bull said:

Yeah, but they don't necessarily have much to do with an artist going on tour, the artist usually organises it and pays for it themselves or gets a sponsor. I don't see any reason why record companies would get a cut of the box office. They might get a cut of how many albums are 'sold' at the concert, just for organising the packaging, distribution and pressing, but that's it. Artists are gonna go, "I'm doing my own promotion with this tour, and selling my album directly to the fans - what do I need you for, exactly?!"

Honestly while I find this stuff *interesting* I don't really care ultimately. The charts... who gives a f*ck? I bet 75% of my favorite albums of all time never charted highly. I have never in my life consulted a chart to tell me what music to buy. Friends recomendations, radio airplay, magazine articles and reviews, etc. have all sold records to me- but never a chart.

So I don't really care who's number what. It doesn't mean squat to me. If more CDs are out there, more articles are being written, more people are talking about it, etc. Thus more people will be exposed to it and in the long run more will buy it. So in my mind it works if the goal is to get the music out there to as many people who want it.

The charts are meaningless to everyone except industry folk. All they are is ego strokes and marketing fodder.

Metal, I think that you missed my point. I'm not talking about promotions. I'm talking strickly about CD sales. And the fact that the artists are undercontract what makes you think that record companies wouldn't welcome this ideal? Just imagine if Cristiana Agu. was selling her CD's now at her concerts and going halves with the record company, you don't think that they would go for that? Come on now. It worked out better for Prince because he came up with this idea before he had a deal with sony. And they were good enough to let him pursue it after the signing.

BlaqueKnight said:

it's way cool. he'z crazy like a fox, baby. a fox

PLus, it will encourage people to watch the concert if only to get a CD with it!!!!

BlaqueKnight said:[quote)Soundscan numbers only mean something to artists collecting royalties; signed artists. [/b][/color][/quote]

You don't have to be signed to a label to collect royalties - there are independent firms you can hire who's job it is to make sure when a record is played on the radio or whatever that royalties have been payed to the correct people.