two of eighties combatants, what yo think of their newest releases. in comparison. despite of MJ's personal issues, invincible is an amazing record (with few weaknesses, though, such as 2000 watts or whatever its called) with good quality m.....therfuckin' well-produced sounds on it.
musicology on the other hand - a collection of good songs with its weaknesses as well, and maybe a comeback for prince ?

which record is the better ?

my pop star can beat up your pop star.

Here we go again. Must be degenerate into this stupid MJ v. P discussion yet AGAIN????!!!!!

easy, easy, what's up with the hostility.

compare, discuss, analyze, comprehend, rationalize, explain

why diss ??

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

hee hee, u're massive intellect is no match 4 my puny weapons!

benjamino71 said:

because the "prince vs. mj"-thing is sooooo 1984. that, and it's been driven into the ground numerous times here over the years.

I think Chris Rock said it best: "Prince won".

PAAAA LEEEE SSSSS EEEEE

How can U say that? MUSICOLOGY IS DA BOMB

U should B

I've never even listened to Invincible, so I would have to go with Musicology. Although I'm not an MJ fan either, so even if I heard it I'd bet my life that I'd still like Musicology better.

richierich said:

i have both, they are totally different, mj's is an over produced over budgeted multi producer 30 million dollar effort... that has about 5 good songs and way to much filler...

musicology is real and from the soul, current and overall a more impressive album... prince sounds like he has something to say.. mj just sings about how hes invincible and trys to convince us he loves chicks..

dont get me wrong i love MJ, but i wanted to like invincible.. i truly love musicology..

but thats just me.

benjamino, if you are really serious about a debate such as this I believe you would find better results posting this same topic on a more "neutral" music site forum.

Good luck.

wake me when it's done.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I'd have to say it's a push. While Invincible did have way too much filler, it had Butterflies and Rock My World. Two songs I would put in my top 20 all time MJ tracks. While Musicology is steadier, especially from track 5-12, it doesn't have a real "killer" track. Invincible was underrated while Musicology seems to be a bit overrated.

intha916 said:

there you go, argumentation !!.

i always felt invincible was somehow underrated, so I hear you on that one. whether musicology is overrated, i don't know. maybe its to early to really know yet. reviews are overall good, though, and I agree, though I felt it was kind of week the first time I heard it. now i feel it is a master-grower and i dig the album.

benjamino71 said:

Okay here is my speel or is that speal? I think Musicology just out and out beats the living hell out of Invincible. Now I like MJ alot but I love Prince still I can tell you as a longtime MJ fan Invincible was horrid. Let me tell you why
1. Overproduced by a man with too much money and refuses to act his age.
2. Nothing really new here. More dance schlock and 'we can save the world' stuff from MJ.
3. If you saw South Park last night they did a send up of MJ that was priceless. they basically ripped him but at the same time there was soooo much truth. I mean everytime 'he' sang he had the shamone's and he hes in there and it was too funny. That ultimately is how Invincible hit my ears. A very safe record with no artistic risks to speak of. Which would not be so bad if he had taken big risks on past albums then you could have said he was returning to form like U-2 did with there last record.

Musicology on the other hand much like U-2's last is an Artist returning to some familar territory with more than a few experiences to show along the way. That is the one thing I want to say to people when they say this album is nothing new. It really is. He wanted to show you old Prince in a new way and I believe that he has in sooo many ways. Musicology sounds inspired by a man who just loves what he is doing. MJ is a machine he can't really think outside of major record sales. I honestly feel that his self worth is based on sales. This saddens me because I think if he were to relax and just create he could really wow people with a more mature perspective. Prince is a very talented and arrogant (or at least he used to be) artist. The arrogance shields him from having to try to please everytime he records. This is a blessing and a curse because he can wander off for long periods of time before he pays attention to what people are asking of him. Thus in my mind the long wait for an album like Musicology.
So there I like both artist but really I was heartbroken when I heard Invincible. I just really thougt that it sucked outside of "butterflies" (and from what I hear floetry the girls that wrote the song do a better version than him) and "you rock my world." To me it is not even a comparison.
Peace

For the record, Invincible is shit. If you have heard Bad, Dangerous, History, then you have heard Invincible. INSPIRATIONLESS PAP.

Musicology on the other hand is rather good.

i own both.

musicology is better.

more styles make for a more interesting listen. invincible is fun but if you listen to one song, you've heard the whole record.

I hated both albums however I hated Musicology a lil bit more

Both albums have no soul compared to their previous works but:

But I really can hear MJs soul in Speechless and Unbreakable...Only songs I like

Musicology: worse than Invincible I didnt like nothing on it! PR is still his best to me

Your not a fan of Prince are you LightOfArt.

LightOfArt, your avatar's nose just broke off....HEE heee!!

Aw shit, now the mandible went and fell off...SHAMON!!!!

Oh lawdy now your avatar's forehead done caved in...stop bein' so ignrrrant...why you gotta be so ignrrrant?

LightOfArt said:

speechless? hands down, without a doubt, the worst song on the record.

theblueangel said:

yeah, blue, he just makes me wanna scrEAM!!!!

richierich said:

No, LightOfArt wants us to "leave him alone". Michael that is.

chiltonmusic said:

I really think your assessment is right on. I listened to Invincible once, when it first came out. Except for a couple of songs, I wasn't moved by it. I agree that MJ is consumed with record sales rather than challenging his artistic ability. I honestly think he's wasted a lot of years and a lot of money. MJ has a great voice, and I'd love to see him do some different things musically. I definitely enjoyed Musicology much more. Here's my little food analogy for the day: I love a home cooked meal of diversity. MJ cooks up several dishes that all seem to taste similar, while P serves up a friggin' smorgasbord. .

manonearth said: