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Thread started 04/24/04 11:47am

rockstarqt1234

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Musicology-Has prince changed?

[b]On a ton of these forums people are saying either that think Prince has changed his musical way, or they love his new album. But I think a true Prince fan knows the "soul" in his music, weather it be the song "sister"-lol, or "cream" or "a million days". I have to say Ill be a little disappointed if Prince stops doing the good 'ol funky music we all love, but the soul will always be there. I think that to be a true prince fan this new album just shows how much you can respect him that hes willing to let more of own stylings out...
"Too much freedom can lead to the soul's decay"
-Prince
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Reply #1 posted 04/24/04 11:51am

EvilWhiteMale

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Changed for the worse.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #2 posted 04/24/04 12:22pm

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I'm trying to think of any artist who had the same edge, fire, etc. when he is in his 40s...as he did in his early 20's..

I totally understand if one wants to judge Prince on his past catalouge...but I think folks are using a standard that isn't applied to anyone else...

I just don't see it as being practical to compare Musicology to say...dirty mind. other then the fact that there is a 20 year time span...I don't see any artist who are held to the same standards 20 years apart....I think it's kind of a given that the raunchy, rude boy Prince of 1983 is not the same as the 40 year old Musician he is today


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Reply #3 posted 04/24/04 12:53pm

rockstarqt1234

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psykosoul said:

taken from another

message board:

I'm trying to think of any artist who had the same edge, fire, etc. when he is in his 40s...as he did in his early 20's..

I totally understand if one wants to judge Prince on his past catalouge...but I think folks are using a standard that isn't applied to anyone else...

I just don't see it as being practical to compare Musicology to say...dirty mind. other then the fact that there is a 20 year time span...I don't see any artist who are held to the same standards 20 years apart....I think it's kind of a given that the raunchy, rude boy Prince of 1983 is not the same as the 40 year old Musician he is today


nod



Which is exactly what Im saying, He still has the same touch on music as he did back then, but Im saying that you can still respect what hes doing
"Too much freedom can lead to the soul's decay"
-Prince
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Reply #4 posted 04/24/04 2:26pm

psykosoul

rockstarqt1234 said:

Which is exactly what Im saying, He still has the same touch on music as he did back then, but Im saying that you can still respect what hes doing


nod I know, right? I don't know why some folks still expect certain things from him.
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Reply #5 posted 04/24/04 2:31pm

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Prince always changes for the worse... like when Dirty MInd people thought he sold out with 1999 and Purple Rain, or got off track with PArade and Sign O the TImes (lots of people liked Nasty much better than SOTT as a poop I mean pop album)... or when he got all throwaway with BAtman...or all conventional pop with Diamond and Pearls... or wait a minute, when he lost his entire american black audience with Lovesexy.... or when he turned all religious and put out Rainbow Children.... or when he grew his hair out, cut it, stopped splitting, stopped cussing, denounced horns, used horns....he's always changing for the worse, damn!

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Changed for the worse.
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Reply #6 posted 04/24/04 2:46pm

Se7en

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His ideas toward music, the public, and "business" have changed (for the better). He has accepted that record labels offer some things that he wants, and knows how to negotiate.

It's just too bad that it took so long to come around. It's a shame that Emancipation, Rave, and TRC didn't get heard by the masses . . .
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Reply #7 posted 04/24/04 2:47pm

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Yea, he is Clear Channel's bitch.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #8 posted 04/24/04 2:48pm

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EvilWhiteMale is no teddy ruxpen.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #9 posted 04/24/04 2:54pm

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ufoclub said:

or wait a minute, when he lost his entire american black audience with Lovesexy....

Let's not paint with such wide brushes, he never lost his entire Black audience. The American audience he lost due to Lovesexy wasn't only Black people.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #10 posted 04/24/04 2:55pm

psykosoul

Supernova said:

ufoclub said:

or wait a minute, when he lost his entire american black audience with Lovesexy....

Let's not paint with such wide brushes, he never lost his entire Black audience. The American audience he lost due to Lovesexy wasn't only Black people.


Thank you...
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Reply #11 posted 04/24/04 2:55pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Yea, he is Clear Channel's bitch.

And you're his, since he apparently owns you.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #12 posted 04/24/04 4:20pm

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rockstarqt1234 said:

[b]On a ton of these forums people are saying either that think Prince has changed his musical way, or they love his new album. But I think a true Prince fan knows the "soul" in his music, weather it be the song "sister"-lol, or "cream" or "a million days". I have to say Ill be a little disappointed if Prince stops doing the good 'ol funky music we all love, but the soul will always be there. I think that to be a true prince fan this new album just shows how much you can respect him that hes willing to let more of own stylings out...

omfg..Thats my censored avatar....mad
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Reply #13 posted 04/24/04 5:00pm

mrdespues

Yes. With Mani in his life and freedom on a new label, I believe Prince has changed for the better FOR HIMSELF. Whether you like the results is down to your personal taste, but I think what we are seeing FOR THE FIRST TIME on a lot of these songs is THE REAL PRINCE. He's learnt the quality of sincerity as he's gotten older and now it's truly coming to light.

Sound wishy-washy? Listen to "My Name Is Prince" and compare it with something like "A Million Days" or "Reflection" or "On the Couch" and tell me he hasn't gotten better with age!
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Reply #14 posted 04/24/04 11:46pm

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okay, He lost his white new wave audience with sign o the times.... they rolled their eyes at track three and put on new order....

(I'm being kind of sarcastic with all this.... these observations or supposed patterns are meaningless in the big picture of the course of his career.)

Supernova said:

ufoclub said:

or wait a minute, when he lost his entire american black audience with Lovesexy....

Let's not paint with such wide brushes, he never lost his entire Black audience. The American audience he lost due to Lovesexy wasn't only Black people.
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