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Rolling Stone "Immortals" - P makes the list

Sorry if it's been posted before:


Illustration by Sterling Hundley


28) Prince

By Ahmir Thompson

Prince was forbidden in my closed, Christian household. He was somewhere between Richard Pryor -- whom we absolutely couldn't listen to -- and a stash of porn. In junior high, my parents would put thirty or forty dollars in an envelope, and that would buy a card that would cover a month of school lunches. It was November of 1982, and I took my thirty-six dollars and purchased Prince's 1999, What Time Is It?, by the Time, and the Vanity 6 album. I starved that whole month.

"Little Red Corvette" from 1999 was one of the first regularly played songs by a black artist on MTV; Prince crossed boundaries like that all the time. In the first five songs on Sign 'O' the Times, he sprawls across James Brown, Joni Mitchell, Pink Floyd, the Beatles and Curtis Mayfield in five easy swoops and maintains his own identity. But it's Purple Rain that was a crowning achievement, not only in Prince's career but for black life -- or how blacks were perceived -- in the Eighties. It's the equivalent of Michael Jordan's 1997 championship games: He was absolutely just in the zone, every shot was going in. "When Doves Cry" is one of the most radical Number One songs of the past twenty years. Here's a song with no bass line in it, hardly any music. I hear people speak of the Neptunes all the time, like, "Oh, man, this is some new shit!" "When Doves Cry" is a precursor to the Neptunes' one-note funk grind, a masterpiece of song with just a drum machine and very little melody. Anyone who saw 8 Mile, if they're over thirty, the first words out of their mouth are, "Oh, I liked that film the first time I saw it. It was called Purple Rain."

Prince must be one of the most bootlegged artists of the rock era -- on a weekly basis I listen to a bootleg called The Dream Factory, which would later be known as Sign 'O' the Times. His ability to create on the spot is mind-boggling. Like a hip-hop MC freestyling, he executes ideas off the top of his head in a very convincing manner. But there must be at least twenty ways to prove that hip-hop is damn-near patterned after Prince, including his genius, blatant use of sexuality and the use of controversy as a way to get attention. I don't think any artist before had used that level of sex to get in the door and be accepted by the mainstream. I wonder what his mind state was in 1980, standing onstage in kiddie briefs, leg warmers and high heels without a Number One hit. That was a risk. Also, Prince created the image of what we now know as the video ho -- he was a pioneer of objectifying and empowering women at the same time. Jay-Z often talks about ghostwriting for other artists; Prince is notorious for ghostwriting. Not only that, but he invented different aliases for himself in a way that rappers have adopted -- he was Jamie Starr, or Joey Coco, Alexander Nevermind or the Starr.

I met Prince in 1996, and I was prepared for the grasshopper voice, the one that he always uses at award shows, but he was totally normal. Just like you and me, except he's Prince. We played together a few times, and one of my hero moments of all time is after a concert in New York when me, him and D'Angelo got onstage and played for about a half-hour. His silence in the last two or three years has bothered me. It's really a shame that his fight for independence from the labels was a David and Goliath battle that he had to fight alone, and he's still fighting it. But judging from his performance with BeyoncŽ at the Grammys, I'm happy to say that he hasn't lost a step in his twenty years of doing it. He seemed as young and as in charge as ever. He definitely seized that moment. In case a few people counted him out, he's got a few trump cards up his sleeve.


Only 28th huh? biggrin

Beatles, Dylan, Presley 1-2-3

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[This message was edited Fri Apr 23 16:12:11 2004 by 1p1p1i3]
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OLD NEWS MOVE ON. j/k
[This message was edited Fri Apr 23 16:11:33 2004 by cbastriani]
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1p1p1i3 said:

Sorry if it's been posted before:







who the hell is that?

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Reply #3 posted 04/23/04 4:12pm

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andykeen said:

1p1p1i3 said:

Sorry if it's been posted before:







who the hell is that?

biggrin


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Reply #4 posted 04/23/04 4:13pm

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1p1p1i3 said:

andykeen said:




who the hell is that?

biggrin


Ludwig van Nelson



lol falloff

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Reply #5 posted 04/23/04 4:19pm

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andykeen said:

1p1p1i3 said:

Sorry if it's been posted before:







who the hell is that?

biggrin

Looks like Dave Chapelle when he was dressed up like Prince in the skit he did on his show... eek
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Reply #6 posted 04/23/04 5:14pm

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This bores me.
Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
How 'bout you and your friends versus me, and the Revolution?
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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