Too bad EWM still lives in the 80's, he's probably a softy under all that ego.

I happen to like Musicology, but I reckon that P's next record will be totally different.

Geritzla said:

I'm curious as to where my ego came into play. And please explain how you feel I still live in the 80's.

OdysseyMiles said:

Yeah, it'll probably be some JW hip hop shit.

EvilWhiteMale said:

well, i think we just have different tastes. i think there are about 10 songs on emancipation that should have been released. the rest should have been left as b sides or bootleg material. but that is just my opinion. i mean, i absolutely loved trc. don't dig rave too much but really enjoy news and the vault. oh, and crystal ball. i love that shit, especially the truth. but i can't stand newpowersoul. i really don't love all of his material. but he usually gives me good tunes so here i am.

its funny, if i didn't like what someone had released for almost 10 years, i probably wouldn't go to a website devoted to that person and rag on the ones who do like him/her. but, like i said, we've got different tastes.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 23 12:20:49 2004 by SassyBritches]

SassyBritches said:

Indeed we do.

I think they are relevant and aren't relevant. I think they aren't relevant, because who cares how much an artists sells, because if you like their music it shouldn't matter. Just so long as they keep doing what they do best. I think they are relevant, because, for me personally, out of the three main artists to survive the 80's (Madonna, Michael, and Prince), Prince seems to be the only one who can still sell his albums without having to do stupid publicity stunts that insult his fan's intelligence and/or disappoint them. Prince has sold out many shows on his Musicology Tour and he doesn't have to hump his dancers or band and use shit loads of pyro and flashy lights to sell it. His good reviews, album sales, and chart numbers are just proving that an artist doesn't have to be a total media whore, have over-priced music videos, and be sportin' tons of bling to sell their music. I'm glad he's getting this good press, because now non-fans know that he's still alive and kickin', and that true musicanship is about the music and not just about how many platinum albums and music awards one has received.

Hello, Evil. How the hell are ya?

I feel what you are trying to say. Bandwagon motherfuckers always make me sick, which is why I give no credence to what these so-called journalists and critics are saying. A good review never makes me buy something and bad reviews don't stop me from buying something. You seem to keep forgetting or maybe you don't, some Prince fans have no rationality when it comes to the man. Reviews, sales and charts didn't mean shit to me three months ago and they still don't. If being on the charts is what Prince wants, I'm happy for him. It does not mean an album is bad or good. Just popular. I believe the album is good, for the record.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Hey you, I'm well thank you. Hope you are too.

But the album is lousy.

EvilWhiteMale said:

From your own profile..."75% of anything he put out in the 80's"

Geritzla said:

And where does it say I like nothing from the 90's?

EvilWhiteMale said:

Dude, you crack me up. But in a good way.

Cloudbuster said:

Just keepin it real.

EvilWhiteMale said:

it matters because now he can go off the deep end, satiated on his current success and power, and make truly weird, embarrassing, and interesting stuff (which is why I like him), supported by freedom earned by this commercial success.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Funny, to me it sounds like outtakes from The Gold Experience.

As to your original question....I would imagine it's obvious why those who couldn't care about critics when they bashed Prince are in love with the critics now that they adore Prince.

Personally, I could care less what others think of Prince..I don't need somebody else to justify my taste in music.

Having said that, I don't care much for Musicology (yeah, I know....easy jokes to make about my 'taste' after that statement...go ahead)

psykosoul said:

Well, I think he said orgers have said chart positions are just for s---ty pop stars. I don't think the statement refers to Prince.

For once, many critics were right. I think this album is Prince's best in years. With Purple Rain being 20 years old now, we should start evaluating Prince's new album in relation to his more recent work.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 23 13:52:41 2004 by namepeace]

Personally, 've alwayz wanted 2 see Prince back on Billboard. 2 me, it's about respect 4 the older artists, the ones who have proven themselves time and again. People like Prince, Bruce, Bowie, Dylan... these are guys who deserve 2 be at the top of the charts (providing the material warrants it). They make true music, music that deserves, and dare say needs, 2 be heard.

So, 2 me, it's important 4 Prince 2 be back on top of the charts because it's definitive proof that people are hearing this record. The sales in and of themselves aren't the key point, (although alwayz like 2 see P doing well at the bank), the key point is that the charts are at least a semi-accurate way 2 gauge how many people are listening 2 real music, and hearing the message of love and unity that Prince is sending out. Maybe a little cliche, but can live with that. Anyway, theres my reasoning.

alexandernevermind said:

A little bit of that too. A Million Days, sound a bit like Dolphin in a way.

EvilWhiteMale said:

I'd like to weigh in on this one. Since I'm fairly new here, I'm not one of those who slagged off reviewers when they gave a bad review. Speaking in general terms good/bad reviews & chart position will never dictate how I personally feel about a release (nor do I think it necessarily speaks to the actual quality of the record). Every artist who has fans likely has some fans that will love ANYTHING released by that artist (even before they've heard it!). Never been one of those, and understand that you can still like an artist (even call yourself a fan), but not get or appreciate a certain release(s). That's cool ... as long as don't attempt to make others feel like idiots because they have a different viewpoint (not making any accusations here, just speaking generally). Anyway, back to Musicology, I like it, I think it's decent. When I read a review that concurs with my own viewpoint, I think it's great because it may cause others to check out the album. A high charting album means that people are buying it, wonderful. I think the main benefit to fans is that when an artist is doing well commercially, it means more opportunities are held out to the artist .... MTV appearances, HBO specials, etc. ... Translation: more opportunities for the fans to see and hear that artist.

for me it still doesn't matter...
mtv sux
rolling stone sux
critics sux
HATERS SUX THE MOST, THOUGH

EvilWhiteMale said:

Yawn... Yeah, you're REAL CURIOUS.

Neat how you can lump everyone is with the word, "You"... Funny, I don't remember using the phrase, "shitty pop stars" ever in my lifetime.

"We" all know that YOU, personally, would have been citing negative media reviews as reasons why this Prince album also sucked, and wasn't as good as SOTT, and the tour was lame, blah, blah, blah...BUT those reviews just ain't surfacing, and let's face it, you're strugglin' sweety darlin'. That doesn't mean the album or tour is better or worse, but please don't think for a minute that we don't understand one another.

I know it's hard to come here everyday and know that the tour is a smash and the album's being praised from all corners, and people are having a blast...must be tough. "We" feel for you, we really do... Hopefully Prince's next tour and album will get trashed, and you can feel powerful again.

Right now, you're just an EvilWhiteMale, who's had his "negativity nuts" castrated.


It's O.K., things are bound to go your way if you keep ridin' that negativity train... Some people use reviews for ammo... Some people use a negative-for negativity's sake party line. Either way, it seems like both are slaves to a cause...

namepeace said:

He didn't say it but, if you're familiar with EWM's posts then you know that's pretty much how he's (supposedly) felt about every Prince release since 1994. Unfortunately, he's knows the critics are right about the album being good. Not necessarily one of his best, but it's good. I would view this thread a little differently if EWM didn't make every effort to shit on every Prince release.

Because you said they mattered all this time and now you have to eat your words?

Nah...

jpav said:

Mmm, nice try at being clever. Unfortunately you come across as being ridiculous for using so many words to express your dislike for me. You look like another obsessed fam who can't handle criticism against Prince. So bring it the fuck on if it's worth your time.

By the way, I'm not bitter. I'll actually be at the show in July. Prince may not be able to release good music anymore, but his shows are still worth a bit of something. Luckily he hasn't ruined all of his hits.

So suck on that shit.

psykosoul said:

Every Prince release? You know that's impossible. Rave, NPS,TRC, Xpectation, NEWS, and Musicology don't count as ALL his releases.

...cause people need to be awaken.

Geritzla said:

you are rightt...I think he is a softy as well, he just likes pushing our buttons....

EvilWhiteMale said:

i love both of these songs.....this is Musicology....the study of music. SOOO of course there will be some similiarities.