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Reply #30 posted 04/20/04 12:20pm

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Haystack said:

klaatu said:



But how can one recognize a witch?


First, we take BoySimon to a listening booth and play the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic album very loudly over and over again for a period of 7 hours.

If, at any point, he comments positively on any of the songs, then he is a witch and must burn.

If he remains silent, or makes any suggestion that some of the music may not be up to scratch, then...

He's a witch and he must burn!

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Reply #31 posted 04/20/04 12:21pm

Haystack

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Proper lyrics....well, how about a pretty groovy song called Housequake. A proper tune to give life to a party without having to tell people that's what the intention is. Prince used to write songs that became the life of a party. He now needs to find a seriously bizarre gathering for this number.


Oh, now that was a bad example. Prince talking about green eggs and ham and talking about his jam being bad (he should have looked at the sell-by date beforehand).

And as for rocking your Mother. Now that will make her sea sick.
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Reply #32 posted 04/20/04 12:21pm

BoySimon

She spoke to me. I can't believe it, but she spoke to me.
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Reply #33 posted 04/20/04 12:22pm

Haystack

I'm in a silly mood today.
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Reply #34 posted 04/20/04 12:23pm

psykosoul

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Wait, how do you know God's number?

Now everybody will be dialling it.


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Reply #35 posted 04/20/04 12:25pm

BoySimon

Yeah, but you see the surreality of Housequake stands square with the position Prince held at the time. The surety of the song, the simple grove, the simple lyrics, the fact that it sounded like a party you wanted to attend.

Life O The Party is your uncle dancing at a wedding. Now your uncles may be funky, but let me assure you, most are not. This is a song that dresses with an open collar and a medallion. This is a song that wears too much cologne. This is NOT Housequake.
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Reply #36 posted 04/20/04 12:28pm

BoySimon

Besides, Housequake must be cool GC quotes it on Hey Man...
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Reply #37 posted 04/20/04 12:29pm

Universaluv

We're gonna shake, we're gonna quake
Cuz we got the baddest groove that we could a make
We on then 2, y'all
The drummer's gonna tap
We gonna see if we can rock this mother 2 the max
And that's a fact
Housequake
Come on say it (housequake) (come on)
U can't follow it
We got the baddest jam in the land
Everybody shut up, listen 2 the band
Housequake
Shut up already, damn

Lyrics don't exactly look all that modest to me about it's intention...
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Reply #38 posted 04/20/04 12:30pm

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Just curious: Are there any folks from the UK that like this album? I've noticed a few people who really hate it are from there, and I'm wondering if there's any sort of larger trend. It does seem a very American album to me. With a few exceptions, the album seems out of step with current U.S. radio styles, but from what (little) I know of British pop, it seems REALLY out of step with what's going on there (Sugababes and such.) My genereal understanding is for whatever reason, current UK charts seem to favor style/modernity over songcraft, and this album's much more about the latter.
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Reply #39 posted 04/20/04 12:31pm

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Musicology--zzz
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #40 posted 04/20/04 12:32pm

Haystack

BoySimon said:

Yeah, but you see the surreality of Housequake stands square with the position Prince held at the time. The surety of the song, the simple grove, the simple lyrics, the fact that it sounded like a party you wanted to attend.

Life O The Party is your uncle dancing at a wedding. Now your uncles may be funky, but let me assure you, most are not. This is a song that dresses with an open collar and a medallion. This is a song that wears too much cologne. This is NOT Housequake.


I'm just playing, really.

Of course, Housequake is a classic, but I do like Life O The Party. I mean, it contains an 'Aowa!', it's got a wonderful moment - when Prince sings 'All the purple hippies bang your heads on the one', before bursting back into funkiness. It's a reasonably groovy song, not a bad one by any means.

Maybe it'll grow on you, but then maybe it won't.

Actually, I'm going about all this the wrong way!

Let's start again...

Okay, so Ur journey with P is over. Keep on listening 2 ur old wreckas and keep living in the past. Eye'm Njoying the new fonkay Xperience and if U were a true fam, so should U.

Man, talk about negativity!

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Reply #41 posted 04/20/04 12:32pm

OdysseyMiles

BoySimon said:

Yeah, but you see the surreality of Housequake stands square with the position Prince held at the time. The surety of the song, the simple grove, the simple lyrics, the fact that it sounded like a party you wanted to attend.

Life O The Party is your uncle dancing at a wedding. Now your uncles may be funky, but let me assure you, most are not. This is a song that dresses with an open collar and a medallion. This is a song that wears too much cologne. This is NOT Housequake.


Everything you're saying is subjective. wink .
There is no such thing as a proper lyric. If it feels good to the artist, mission accomplished.
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Reply #42 posted 04/20/04 12:33pm

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BoySimon said:

Sorry chaps, but I'm really disappointed with the new one. Hopefully it will grow on me.


That's an optimistic approach to it, good luck on future spins of it.















By the way....it IS you! lol stoned
I am MrVictor....
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Reply #43 posted 04/20/04 12:33pm

psykosoul

BoySimon said:

Life O The Party is your uncle dancing at a wedding. Now your uncles may be funky, but let me assure you, most are not. This is a song that dresses with an open collar and a medallion. This is a song that wears too much cologne. This is NOT Housequake.



falloff That's sig-worthy. Let's see if I can make it fit.
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Reply #44 posted 04/20/04 12:37pm

Haystack

MendesCity said:

Just curious: Are there any folks from the UK that like this album? I've noticed a few people who really hate it are from there, and I'm wondering if there's any sort of larger trend. It does seem a very American album to me. With a few exceptions, the album seems out of step with current U.S. radio styles, but from what (little) I know of British pop, it seems REALLY out of step with what's going on there (Sugababes and such.) My genereal understanding is for whatever reason, current UK charts seem to favor style/modernity over songcraft, and this album's much more about the latter.


I'm from the UK and I luuurrve this album. Initially shallow sounding, a few listens exposes a lot of the subtleties that most definitely add to the musical experience.

Don't spit it out until you've digested all the ingredients.
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Reply #45 posted 04/20/04 12:39pm

BoySimon

Yeah, the lyrics may not be modest, but they were fresh, they were inclusive. These lyrics are desparate.

Proper lyrics - maybe y'all right. Perhaps there are no proper lyrics. This is an opinion. One of worth only to me but shared, possibly, by others. Are we here to discuss or simply say who's right and who's wrong?

Like I say, it may grow on me..... probably not, but it might.
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Reply #46 posted 04/20/04 12:40pm

bananacologne

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It's amazing how people can hear things so differently.
The moment I heard "Reflection" (live on Tavis), I thought it was absolutely beautiful.


I agree - I thought 'Reflection' was just 'ok', and pretty much filler - then, when I saw Him do it on that show with Wendy, and saw Him shoot her a knowing glance during certain words, It took on a whole different meaning 4 me - I now love it.

Same 4 Musicology - again, 'ok' - didnt think it was anything particularly special by any means, then caught a sixty second clip of Him live in LA performing it and was like: omg I now love it.

Basically, I guess it's all relative.
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Reply #47 posted 04/20/04 12:43pm

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psykosoul said:

BoySimon said:

Life O The Party is your uncle dancing at a wedding. Now your uncles may be funky, but let me assure you, most are not. This is a song that dresses with an open collar and a medallion. This is a song that wears too much cologne. This is NOT Housequake.



falloff That's sig-worthy. Let's see if I can make it fit.


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Reply #48 posted 04/20/04 12:46pm

OdysseyMiles

bananacologne said:

OdysseyMiles said:

It's amazing how people can hear things so differently.
The moment I heard "Reflection" (live on Tavis), I thought it was absolutely beautiful.


I agree - I thought 'Reflection' was just 'ok', and pretty much filler - then, when I saw Him do it on that show with Wendy, and saw Him shoot her a knowing glance during certain words, It took on a whole different meaning 4 me - I now love it.

Same 4 Musicology - again, 'ok' - didnt think it was anything particularly special by any means, then caught a sixty second clip of Him live in LA performing it and was like: omg I now love it.

Basically, I guess it's all relative.
music


Yeah, I thought Musicology was just o.k. when I first heard it. When he performed it on Leno, good lord. It rocked!! And this past Friday when he performed in Columbus, the song shook the house. People do seem to get more from the live performances nowadays. Who knows. Music is such a feel thing for me. Always will be. When I play, and I'm feelin' it, I honestly don't
care if people are diggin' it. I'm just doing what feels good.
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Reply #49 posted 04/20/04 12:48pm

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MendesCity said:

Just curious: Are there any folks from the UK that like this album? I've noticed a few people who really hate it are from there, and I'm wondering if there's any sort of larger trend. It does seem a very American album to me. With a few exceptions, the album seems out of step with current U.S. radio styles, but from what (little) I know of British pop, it seems REALLY out of step with what's going on there (Sugababes and such.) My genereal understanding is for whatever reason, current UK charts seem to favor style/modernity over songcraft, and this album's much more about the latter.



But how many Prince fans actually care about the UK charts now?

And even when it comes to casual music buyers, maybe because it's not like the usual pap that seems to enter the UK charts these days, it might just succeed.

Certainly, I'm genuinely surprised how many non-fans who know how much I'm into Prince, have approached me to ask when the album's out and what it's like because they've heard the title track and have liked it.

There have been a lot of pretty good reviews of this album in the UK press and I think it's because this album reminds them of Prince at the height of his popularity in Europe (ATWIAD - Lovesexy). Heck, even the NME had the Musicology single as their Download of the Week, a short while ago. And they've been unbelievably scathing towards Prince in the past decade or so.

I think this album is/will be pretty popular over here.
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Reply #50 posted 04/20/04 12:52pm

BoySimon

Why, thank you, psykosoul.

I think it depends on how the album is pushed as to whether it will be popular over here.

The British charts are not up to much.....speaking of the charts, is it me or do the Sugababes sound dull now they've lost their original line-up?
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Reply #51 posted 04/20/04 12:52pm

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BoySimon said:

Quite looking forward to this album.
Not a member of the fanclub, so not been able to access much of the new music. As a consequence NEWS was the last thing I heard...which I thought was qiute an amusing little thing, very entertaining and beautifully orchestrated, played, etc.

Musicology, by contrast, feels pedestrian, tired, appeasing and, well, boring.

Nice to see he's back to his old Ronnie Talk to Russia days with Mr Man and Cinnamon Girl (which is the second worst song on the album after Life O The Party....if that's the soundtrack, I'll pass thanks) - i.e. words with little thought.

There are some good tunes, ICP&C, What Do U Want.... and If I Was The Man In Ur Life excited me, but, beyond these three there is very little to please.

Reflection...well I guess he'll be sorry about this "comeback"....a very poor tune and a huge anticlimax.

Commercial? I don't know. I can't think of anyone who's going to buy into this other than those who buy into him regardless.....fools like me.


I just wanna know....what album were u listening to? This is his best since Emancipation. Okay, lyrically it might not be the best. At least it has a groove. Better than COME.
An all-time low. Lower even than NPS.....hurts me to say.
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Reply #52 posted 04/20/04 12:52pm

BoySimon

Come on....come on.....come with me down the sugababes cul-de-sac!
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Reply #53 posted 04/20/04 12:55pm

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I figure it takes at least a week, and probably longer, to form a real opinion of a Prince album. Opinions formed on the first listen or couple of listens will often change dramatically over time. So I always wait at least a week before trying to rate a Prince album. Closing in on a week now - got mine friday at the concert - and I'm finding a lot of standout tracks on here. Way more than I thought at first listen.
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Reply #54 posted 04/20/04 1:01pm

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[/quote]
I'm from the UK and I luuurrve this album. Initially shallow sounding, a few listens exposes a lot of the subtleties that most definitely add to the musical experience.
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Well put. It's initially not very interesting sounding, but it's just a very subtle album all around.
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Reply #55 posted 04/20/04 1:04pm

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BoySimon said:

Come on....come on.....come with me down the sugababes cul-de-sac!


I've only heard a few track off the first CD and the entire new CD...and I just don't get it at all. All flash, ZERO substance. But then I can't stand Robbie Williams either.
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Reply #56 posted 04/20/04 1:18pm

BoySimon

I thought their first album was nice lollipop pop....sweet and quickly forgotten. Their second...just too full of itself.

ANYWAY, back to the point.

Musicology is a disappointment. I don't get why this has been flamed. Presumably because we've talked about witches and the like, but, I think, this is a valid proposition.

This is the record on which his career hangs, will be judged etc, - with regards the next few years and how his career will pan etc.... Aren't you disappointed with it? Doesn't it make you wish he'd just released a few Vault songs and be done with it? Keep his real albums, TRC, for those that care?
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Reply #57 posted 04/20/04 1:21pm

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I thought their first album was nice lollipop pop....sweet and quickly forgotten. Their second...just too full of itself.

ANYWAY, back to the point.

Musicology is a disappointment. I don't get why this has been flamed. Presumably because we've talked about witches and the like, but, I think, this is a valid proposition.

This is the record on which his career hangs, will be judged etc, - with regards the next few years and how his career will pan etc.... Aren't you disappointed with it? Doesn't it make you wish he'd just released a few Vault songs and be done with it? Keep his real albums, TRC, for those that care?



A little sensitive? If you think this has been flamed then you haven't read the org much. But just a tip, the phrases "proper lyrics" and "real albums" aren't helping your case much.
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Reply #58 posted 04/20/04 1:30pm

BoySimon

Oh OK.

But, would you say that Chaos and Disorder, NPS, Crystal Ball and The Vault are "real" albums. "Real" meaning Prince would have released them in the course of an unaffected career, as opposed to "real" meaning that are not real/true/deserve criticism/aren't of merit. Personally I think Muciscology may be added to this list. in time. You may disagree, but that makes my opinion less valid how? I can justify what I write. I can argue against those who chose to disagree with me, but it does not make what I ssay less valid.

Proper lyrics - well, quite simply, those that don't sound forced. Lyrics like those on Free, Graffiti Bridge, I Rock Therefore I AM and Push It Up seem insincere to me. It's that sort of lyric I am referring to.

By flamed I meant the flaming thing by the subject on the Music and More page.
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Reply #59 posted 04/20/04 1:31pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

endorphin74 said:




that's funny, I've had the exact opposite happen to me...LOTP is really gettin on my nerves right now...

"lotp" grates my nerves, man! that's the only song on the album that i cannot stand and always skip....

ill Me too. Well, that one and the "Pimp, Coma...." whatever the hell it's called song. illill
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