What if Prince charts high with Musicology?

Many of you are on the record saying Prince won't chart well. Now, I've let most of you off the hook when Prince started filling up arenas when you were saying he could never do so again, but this time, I mean business. It's time to take some responsibility for your statements, especially since most of the time you couch it as if you and you only had a grasp of the real world and others were just overexcited fans.

I want to know how you plan to publicly admit you were wrong. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'll do the same. But knowing how difficult it is to admit an error, let's proppse all the options :

1) You could admit you were wrong.
2) You could wear a Musicology T-shirt all week.
3) You could listen to Musicology at least once without skipping Life O the Party.
4) You could get a Symbol tattoo were the sun don't shine.
5) You could buy a copy of Musicology and give it to a complete stranger.

Suggestions are welcomed.

You may also suggest what the "asskissers" should do if Musicology isn't a commercial success. Go ahead... be imaginative.

Aerogram said:

Am I the ONLY person who likes this song????

So, if I'm reading you correctly, you are pro-Musiclogy, right?

CandaceS said:

CandaceS said:

Nope - I like it too - and it's great in concert too.

alandail said:

I don't consider a hater, but I hate "Life of the Party" . Although my deaf friend Geoff loves it.

Musicology will have vanished from the charts before his bday.

analbolic said:

I don't think so - and I outlined many of the reasons here:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/89939

agreed it doesn't sound as good on cd as it does live.....it was great in sydney last year - well worth the flight over from NZ....and on the couch is fantastic live.....does he still say he was talking about fishing..when he says...wanting "to go down south....the fishings good" - that cracked every1 up!!

analbolic said:

Nice try, but you can't make another prediction now. I want to know if you think Musicology will chart high, not for how long.

ThomasJefferson said:

Yes, I am. This album basically opened up slowly for me, like most good Prince albums. You know what I mean -- the first few listens, I was pleased but some songs seemed "too much", then the whole thing took shape, save for maybe one track

CandaceS said:

No, i'm listening 2 it rite now and i played it many times. I like i t

When Britney Spears, or the Cheeky Girls chart high, it's put down to promotion and record company mechanics.

If Prince charts high with a mediocre collection of songs that only manage to retread where he has been before - I would put it down to the same reasons.

That and the fact he hasn't had a major label release in 5 years, and the timing clicks with the Grammies, R&R HOF, 80s retro, PR Anniversary, influence on current commercial/popular acts etc, etc.

The press reviews of Musicology make me giggle, this album, IMO, is no better than anything Prince has released since 1995, yet I've seen some sparkling reviews - which tells me the reviewers are a) ignorant to Prince's work in the 90s, or b) Let the current climate of popular music and trends affect their reviewing 'skills'.

The way I see it, if Musicology charts high, that's great for Prince, mission complete - he released a major label album, took advantage of the promotion, distribution and back-patting mechanics of the record industry.

But I don't consider any commercial success as a reflection of artistic success - As we often see people say on here, just because an album fails commercially does not make it a bad record - so the opposite should also be true, just because an album does well commercially, does not mean it is a great record.

I'm a Naysayer. One of the first, in fact. And will continue to be. However, I like Musicology, and this comeback is something I've been hoping for for a long time. Not necessarily the hype and publicity, and recognition (that's nice as well), but for him to pull his head out of his ass for 5 minutes and do something right.


I still hold my breath in anticipation of him doing something to piss away all this good will and success any minute now. It happens every time, I don't see why this time would be different.


But here's hoping that for once, this Naysayer is wrong

NouveauDance said:

actually, i'd say it's better than anything he's released since 1995 (after TGE). no, Musicology isn't a spectacular or ground-breaking album for him or for popular music in general. but every other album he's released after TGE has been deeply flawed in some way, no matter how good it was. this time, no it may not sparkle, but it isn't flawed either. you can't really say that about any of his albums from 1996-2003.

NouveauDance said:

That's not the point. Whether you think commercial success is the measuring stick or not, there are plenty of folks who have denied the public would be interested in anything Prince does. If you read "Possessed", then you know the "fall" is largerly defined in commercial terms. When people say Prince is "over", they generally mean both commercially and critically, and there's no escaping this fact.

Counfounding the sceptics, Prince is again selling out arenas. Now let's see if he'll do the same with the charts. Some prominent minus sign folks are on the record saying Musicology won't register. I want to find out if these people will fess up if they are wrong.... is all.

Who are these people you are referring to?

Prince is one of those artists to shape pop music into something else it wasn't before they came on the scene - from that POV, the public (media, consumers etc) will always have an interest in him - just like they do any other artist of his calibur.

I'm just wondering if these so called "Official Haters" (lol) are still going to his concert? Aah fuck it, frankly I don't give a shit what they do ...


[This message was edited Mon Apr 19 6:52:49 2004 by SunDance]

NouveauDance said:

They know who they are. You seem generous compared to them.

GrayKing said:

This I can agree with.

People on here sure waste a lot of time and energy hating the haters. Like, how many threads does it take to beat the, "I'm right, you're wrong" horse to death? Here's a wacky suggestion- how about allowing everyone to have their own opinion and respecting theirs the same as you'd like your own to be respected?

Nah, too wacky, I know.

CandaceS said:

I love it too.

freakebear said:

really...

Hmmm... no. This is all a bit tongue-in-cheek, just friendly competition really... . I like many of the so-called "haters", and here I'm only asking them if they'll fess up if Prince charts well, because they said he wouldn't (for the most part). I just think it would be fun if THESE PEOPLE ( ) came out to say something like "Asskissers, you were right! I don't have a permanent lease on Reality Park. I especially want to reckon Aero was right all along and am sending him 40 of my best boots as an act of contrition."


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[This message was edited Mon Apr 19 10:52:14 2004 by Aerogram]

Since I got a shitload of flames for my "Are We Afraid to Admit P's Career is Over" thread, I'll suggest a punishment for myself:

I will buy all of my students "Musicology" and make them write a report on the meaning of "Cinnamon Girl"

One thing I won't do is kiss ya'llz

laylow03 said:

Is that even legal?

"Life..." is cool...
"sleep on the couch" and "cinnamon girl" stinks!

Novabreaker said:

Just couldn't pick up on my facet, could you?