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PrintableAnxiety said: hell no, he shouldn't "get with the times" - last time he tried that we got stuck with tony m. and mayte's "raver angel" costume.
 "raver angel" costume!  not sure what one that is you are referring to, but I like the description of it alone!Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Anxiety said: hell no, he shouldn't "get with the times" - last time he tried that we got stuck with tony m. and mayte's "raver angel" costume.
"raver angel" costume! not sure what one that is you are referring to, but I like the description of it alone!watch the "dolphin" video or the performance of it he did on letterman - you'll see the raver angel get-up. | |
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LarrytheGOD said: Back in the day.. Prince was cutting edge, experimental funk/R&B.. his 80's Pop was guitar finger licking good.. and its been well known that the music that came out of Paisley Park was ahead of its time. (ffwd)
During the late 90s artists have taken advantage of new computer aided technology in the studio.. Dance music "EVOLVED" so much that clubs, radio and video moved ahead faster and faster to keep up with new hits delivered by a sexier and more energetic image. While Prince's music was slightly enhanced.. allowing for interesting sound in Emancipation and The Rainbow Children... he has fallen behind the mainstream creatively. I feel its because he has too many compositions already completed in the can/vault.. his work in the past several years is slightly outdated -not fresh. With the release of Musicology its becoming clear (by music lovers in touch with fresh music) that this is a nice little bit of an "old school" nostaligic time capsule. My question (not complaint) is.. When is Prince ever going to retune his aging "do-it-all-by-myself" studio habits out of 1st gear and move ahead with some fresh talent that can produce his work so that its at least up with the times? There is the old saying.. "If you can't beat em join em" Prince has dabbled with embracing fresh new computer aided production methods on some of his 2001 NPGMC jams... but he has retreated back to the piano (ONA), the jazz(Xpectation/etc) and now the old school jam (Musicology) Prince is so out of touch with the times.. he announced that NEWS was some "new direction in music" but it turned out it was only a new direction for "his" outdated music as even some of his die-hard fans yawned it off as another forgotten project. Do you hope with Prince's next release.. that he goes cutting edge again and gets with the times? Maybe even release an all dance album?  Get with the times? Well to me, the times ain't all that good right now anyway. 2nd who in the world could produce Prince? Most 'hot' producers out there now just sample the sh*t out of some other record and speed it up and call it producing. How could one of these people sit in the same room as Prince and discuss music or musical direction. He probably couldn't stop laughing and would walk out. Prince should stick to producing Prince. That would be like someone trying to produce Stevie Wonder or school him on the art of chord progressions. Notice he does not let that happen, he just doesn't release material every year. The only thing I could think of that Prince should try is to lay off releasing a record for a year or 2 and get away from the US. His competitive nature probably puts too much pressure on him to try to stay current and hip which causes him to rush projects. Never knew why him and Stevie W. never just kicked back and wrote together without pressure. I'm sure it would be something. He's said before that one day he would take his time on a record. Now's the time. | |
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Prince Is with the times. But ya see He's not in his 20's anymore so he's not gonna Rap and he's not gonna be doing the Highly Sexual. He is acting Right for a 40 something,however well but this is Not My Business Really but I'll say it anyway why Act Ya AGE? ACT YOUNGER and Do Things Younger. Forget The Right Way so to Speak. Forget Conventionality,but well This is On Prince..Listen,he Chose Manuela and he Chose his Path. I would Rather Choose the path of being 19 or 21 Cause it's MUCH More Fun and Adventurous. What did Sexy Beast who I wanna lick and kiss say? LIFE IS DEATh WITHOUT ADVENTURE ....But Really, Prince Has lived so Fast that for him he Maybe wants a More PEACEFUL LIFE. This is His Business. Maybe he still does Stuff but Behind Closed doors with Manuela but well it's Nice to Show Some Steam also. I wanna see More STEAM>>>> | |
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70sLove said: LarrytheGOD said: Back in the day.. Prince was cutting edge, experimental funk/R&B.. his 80's Pop was guitar finger licking good.. and its been well known that the music that came out of Paisley Park was ahead of its time. (ffwd)
During the late 90s artists have taken advantage of new computer aided technology in the studio.. Dance music "EVOLVED" so much that clubs, radio and video moved ahead faster and faster to keep up with new hits delivered by a sexier and more energetic image. While Prince's music was slightly enhanced.. allowing for interesting sound in Emancipation and The Rainbow Children... he has fallen behind the mainstream creatively. I feel its because he has too many compositions already completed in the can/vault.. his work in the past several years is slightly outdated -not fresh. With the release of Musicology its becoming clear (by music lovers in touch with fresh music) that this is a nice little bit of an "old school" nostaligic time capsule. My question (not complaint) is.. When is Prince ever going to retune his aging "do-it-all-by-myself" studio habits out of 1st gear and move ahead with some fresh talent that can produce his work so that its at least up with the times? There is the old saying.. "If you can't beat em join em" Prince has dabbled with embracing fresh new computer aided production methods on some of his 2001 NPGMC jams... but he has retreated back to the piano (ONA), the jazz(Xpectation/etc) and now the old school jam (Musicology) Prince is so out of touch with the times.. he announced that NEWS was some "new direction in music" but it turned out it was only a new direction for "his" outdated music as even some of his die-hard fans yawned it off as another forgotten project. Do you hope with Prince's next release.. that he goes cutting edge again and gets with the times? Maybe even release an all dance album? Get with the times? Well to me, the times ain't all that good right now anyway. 2nd who in the world could produce Prince? Most 'hot' producers out there now just sample the sh*t out of some other record and speed it up and call it producing. How could one of these people sit in the same room as Prince and discuss music or musical direction. He probably couldn't stop laughing and would walk out. Prince should stick to producing Prince. That would be like someone trying to produce Stevie Wonder or school him on the art of chord progressions. Notice he does not let that happen, he just doesn't release material every year. The only thing I could think of that Prince should try is to lay off releasing a record for a year or 2 and get away from the US. His competitive nature probably puts too much pressure on him to try to stay current and hip which causes him to rush projects. Never knew why him and Stevie W. never just kicked back and wrote together without pressure. I'm sure it would be something. He's said before that one day he would take his time on a record. Now's the time. You make some good points about finding a good producer. It is hard. And Prince's earlier work was not too shabby producing himself. But like many are saying he's running dry and needs to take his time (as you say) and not rush projects. But when you look at it, One Night Alone was not that bad with great depth IMO. The times you say ain't all that good right now. I don't know about that. There are alot less remakes now then there were 3 year ago and pop acts are more catchy. | |
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It's possible to be cutting edge and NOT sound like everyone else out there.
I highly doubt that Prince will agree to give up production to someone else though. Of course, he is capable of producing cutting edge music by himself instead of hiring some hot new producer, but the question is does he WANT to?  ...:...Must I become naked?
No image at all? Shall I remain upright? Or get down and crawl?...:... | |
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Mynameisspmarc said: Maybe Mutt Lange or Carole King would be nice   I would like to see what Mutt Lange could do with a Prince track. That sounds interesting. It's not out of the realm of possibility. Apparently Prince really liked Shania's song "Still the One". | |
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once prince gets a little older...like, say, 15 or 20 years down the road...i'd love to see him team up with a younger, "edgy" producer who'll throw a little bit of flame back into his sound. i loved the work rick rubin did with johnny cash, and loretta lynn's "van lear rose", produced by jack white, is nothing short of amazing...i realize i'm talking about legendary "country" artists here, but it could really be done with anyone who's considered an elderstatesman of any given musical genre. meanwhile, i really can't think of anyone i'd like to see producing prince in the here and now - flawed as some of his recent output has been, i think he's doing just fine on his own, and anyone who'd be on my "wish list" of producer/collaborators would hardly be considered a realistic choice anyway. | |
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the state of artistry and integrity in the modern music industry suck ass. you really think prince should "get with the times"? | |
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Hell no! The times should get with Prince!
That's what's wrong with music today, everybody looks and sounds alike. Everything lives it's life for a short time span and then dies. Funk (horn type) lived in the late seventies. Disco lived in the late seventies. Electronic funk lived in the early eighties. New wave lived in the early eighties. House music lived in the very late eighies and very early nineties. All these music forms live approximate five year spans and died. Hip hop began in the early eighties, but...this hip hop was good...it was for the dance floor. By the time the nineties arrived hip hop (the tempo) slowed down and stripped down to nothing but a slow ass beat and some "talking". Everything lived a short life and then died except hip hop. To refer to one of Prince's earlier songs, I "Still Waiting" for hip hop to die. So HELL NO Prince does not need to get with the times. Prince needs to keep on dressing, singing, and PLAYING (something the artists of this time does not do) the way he does. With all the hype about "Musicology" these days, I wish he could make a strong enough comeback to start other artists to following the trend and kill off this damn hip hop so we can start jamming again. "It's time for a new direction...it's time for hip hop to die...4th day of November...we need a purple high...turn it up!" Andy is a four letter word. | |
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This is a very highly interesting discussion. As 9-10 people with a finger on the pulse of what MTV's dance generated menu is serving would say yes. But to be a true lover of time of Prince is to wish the rest of the world would catch up with him. At least thats what it appears to be on the org. Perhaps because we all sincerely know what he is musically capable of. | |
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