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Thread started 04/13/04 3:56pm

skywalker

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Can any group around today beat Prince and the NPG in a battle of the bands?

Being a Prince fan I would say no.
Prince's band is too well oiled,
too open to being spontaneous,
their style is too varied,
their musicianship is too precise,
most importantly they really seem to feel every note they play.
That's one person's opinion-what do you think and what are your reasons?
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Reply #1 posted 04/13/04 4:08pm

Anxiety

Hmmm...call me biased, but I can't help but think about Bowie's tour band these days...Gail Ann Dorsey could kick Rhonda's bass any day of the week, though Bowie's drummer ain't got a thing on Mr. Blackwell. Renato's The Man, but then again, Mike Garson is THE MAN. And Earl Slick vs. Mike Scott would pretty much come off as a tie. And I can't even compare Prince and Bowie. I think my head would explode if I tried.
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Reply #2 posted 04/13/04 4:11pm

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'Can any group around today beat Prince and the NPG in a battle of the bands?'

No.
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Reply #3 posted 04/13/04 4:18pm

lovemachine

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The E Street band any day of the week, but they've been together for much longer so it's not a fair fight.
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Reply #4 posted 04/13/04 4:42pm

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lovemachine said:

The E Street band any day of the week, but they've been together for much longer so it's not a fair fight.



So what happens when the E Street band has to play funk or Bruce needs to sing a bedroom ballad?
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Reply #5 posted 04/13/04 4:43pm

skywalker

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Mr Conan's side kick versus Jon Blackwell?
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Reply #6 posted 04/13/04 6:43pm

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skywalker said:

lovemachine said:

The E Street band any day of the week, but they've been together for much longer so it's not a fair fight.



So what happens when the E Street band has to play funk or Bruce needs to sing a bedroom ballad?


With this statement I'm guessing you have never seen Bruce play so it's pointless to discuss. Besides with your past history on this site I am quite certain that you are so into Prince you refuse to believe that there are OTHER talented bands.
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Reply #7 posted 04/13/04 7:08pm

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Marcus Miller & his band, without a doubt, would CREAM Prince and the NPG.
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Reply #8 posted 04/13/04 7:14pm

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It depends on what kind of music you're talking about.

For Prince's style of music, no . . . well, probably not . . .

But if you mean ROCK or Alternative, then yes . . Prince cannot do Alternative . . .
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Reply #9 posted 04/13/04 8:04pm

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Reply #10 posted 04/13/04 8:06pm

skywalker

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lovemachine said:

skywalker said:




So what happens when the E Street band has to play funk or Bruce needs to sing a bedroom ballad?


With this statement I'm guessing you have never seen Bruce play so it's pointless to discuss. Besides with your past history on this site I am quite certain that you are so into Prince you refuse to believe that there are OTHER talented bands.



Past history huh? What's that mean? I have seen many a Bruce concert as my best friend is a huge fan. Pointless as you might see it to discuss the fact is-Bruce and the boys don't do funk. They don't do ballads for the bedroom. They have less dimensions than Prince and his band. So quit acting like a know it all snob.
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Reply #11 posted 04/13/04 8:08pm

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Se7en said:

It depends on what kind of music you're talking about.

For Prince's style of music, no . . . well, probably not . . .

But if you mean ROCK or Alternative, then yes . . Prince cannot do Alternative . . .



Alternative- stripped down rock/blues with much distorted guitar. Ever heard The Cross? Jimi Hendrix and Neil Young are the grandfather of "alternative" music. Prince can do Jimi. Prince can do Neil Young.
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Reply #12 posted 04/13/04 8:53pm

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Gail Ann Dorsey could kick Rhonda's bass any day of the week


I don't agree with that. While I love Bowie and his band and Gail, she is not as funky as Rhonda. Bowie's music is much more languid, while Rhonda's lines for Prince are more dextrous and require a bit more skill in my opinion.

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Reply #13 posted 04/13/04 9:10pm

Purpleone4Eva

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Anxiety said:

Gail Ann Dorsey could kick Rhonda's bass any day of the week


I don't agree with that. While I love Bowie and his band and Gail, she is not as funky as Rhonda. Bowie's music is much more languid, while Rhonda's lines for Prince are more dextrous and require a bit more skill in my opinion.

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I'm no bass player, so I can't compare Rhonda's and Gail Ann Dorsey's bass playing abilities. But, I saw Bowie two nights ago, and as a singer, I think Gail Ann Dorsey's far better than Rhonda. But, right. Bands, instruments, I don't know. I'll shut up now.
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Reply #14 posted 04/13/04 9:25pm

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if any1n saw the grammy's last febuary, they would have 2 agree that robert randolph and the family band 'could definitely give prince some serious competition... and i gotta mention the incredible sounds i heard last april, at columbia sc's 3 rivers festival courtesy of ohio players and lakeside... both bands went 45 mins after each other and had the audience debatin which one was gonna rock the house the hardest....needless 2 say it was a hard fought draw 'cause both bands shut it down leavin neither a dry eye or room/time/reason 2 sit down.....
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Reply #15 posted 04/13/04 9:57pm

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skywalker said:

Se7en said:

It depends on what kind of music you're talking about.

For Prince's style of music, no . . . well, probably not . . .

But if you mean ROCK or Alternative, then yes . . Prince cannot do Alternative . . .



Alternative- stripped down rock/blues with much distorted guitar. Ever heard The Cross? Jimi Hendrix and Neil Young are the grandfather of "alternative" music. Prince can do Jimi. Prince can do Neil Young.


I'm not saying that Prince isn't one of the best performers around . . . I'm just saying that competition is pretty fierce, and I'm not sure how he would rank . . .

I saw David Gray last Superbowl Sunday -- the ticket was free and I'm not a football fan. Anyway, I only knew about 3 David Gray songs, but that concert was AMAZING. Granted, David Gray has "one" style, and rarely strays from that, but his onstage presence and sound is superb.

Prince can do Jimi. True. Prince can do Neil Young. Also true. The fact is, he doesn't. Why is that?
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Reply #16 posted 04/14/04 9:43am

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skywalker said:

lovemachine said:



With this statement I'm guessing you have never seen Bruce play so it's pointless to discuss. Besides with your past history on this site I am quite certain that you are so into Prince you refuse to believe that there are OTHER talented bands.



Past history huh? What's that mean? I have seen many a Bruce concert as my best friend is a huge fan. Pointless as you might see it to discuss the fact is-Bruce and the boys don't do funk. They don't do ballads for the bedroom. They have less dimensions than Prince and his band. So quit acting like a know it all snob.


By past history I mean that you are always starting these threads like this that just say "prince is the best blah blah blah". You don't even need to look as far as your past threads just look at your replies in this thread. You are so one-sided it's not even interesting.

You start a topic asking if any band is as good as the NPG and then when told that there is you say that they can't be because they don't play "funk" and something called "bedroom ballads" as well. lol Do you not see the humor in this? This would be like me saying the NPG can't be anywhere near as good as Bruce because they can't play "Born To Run" or folk music as well. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Perhaps you should have clarified that you were looking for the band that plays "funk" and "bedroom ballads" lol the best.

As for not making my argument that the E Street band is better then Prince (which I believe they are) it's because regardless of what you say you don't know anything about them if you don't think excel at all genres of music. Hello....this is what they are known for worldwide.

As for Prince being great....he is... so inhale.
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Reply #17 posted 04/14/04 9:48am

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Reply #18 posted 04/14/04 10:06am

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lovemachine said:

skywalker said:




Past history huh? What's that mean? I have seen many a Bruce concert as my best friend is a huge fan. Pointless as you might see it to discuss the fact is-Bruce and the boys don't do funk. They don't do ballads for the bedroom. They have less dimensions than Prince and his band. So quit acting like a know it all snob.


By past history I mean that you are always starting these threads like this that just say "prince is the best blah blah blah". You don't even need to look as far as your past threads just look at your replies in this thread. You are so one-sided it's not even interesting.

You start a topic asking if any band is as good as the NPG and then when told that there is you say that they can't be because they don't play "funk" and something called "bedroom ballads" as well. lol Do you not see the humor in this? This would be like me saying the NPG can't be anywhere near as good as Bruce because they can't play "Born To Run" or folk music as well. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Perhaps you should have clarified that you were looking for the band that plays "funk" and "bedroom ballads" lol the best.

As for not making my argument that the E Street band is better then Prince (which I believe they are) it's because regardless of what you say you don't know anything about them if you don't think excel at all genres of music. Hello....this is what they are known for worldwide.

As for Prince being great....he is... so inhale.



I understand why you feel that I am one sided in thinking that Prince is pretty much the best musician of his generation. I don't think I am alone in that. However, you make the assumption that I believe this because I listen only to Prince,worship his every move,etc. The truth is that I like many different artists (Bruce being one of them) and I like a multitude of different musical genres . Still no matter how much I dig the others, Prince just does it for me. You come off as a presumptious asshole because you assumethat a person sheltered in their musical tastes just because ( at a Prince fan site no less) they state reasons that they dig the man and his music.

Yes, I asked the question "can any band around today beat Prince and the NPG in a battle of the bands?" You said Bruce and the E Street band. I simply stated that they can't shift styles like Prince and his band. They are more one dimensional. I used it as an argument for why Bruce and his boys couldn't win the battle of the bands. I didn't say Bruce sucks, I didn't doubt his greatness, nor was I looking for you to assure me that Prince was cool. I was trying to set up a dialogue as to why I didn't think Bruce and his band could take on Prince's and you got insulting and personal quite fast. Prince can do Born to Run type of music, or folk (one of his major influences was Joni). Bruce can't do funk. Bruce can't do Adore. So instead of saying "oh yeah I saw Bruce play 'Flashlight' in 1987" or another kind of evidence/basis for your claim, you disregarded the entire topic that you contributed a post to.
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Reply #19 posted 04/14/04 10:10am

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EXACTLY!

PRINCE &THE NPG....THE MAFIA OF FUNK

ONE BASSLINE FROM RHONDA IS LIKE PRINCE PUTTING A CONTRACT OUT ON YOU..MUSICALLY

"EXSQUEEZE ME..BAKING POWDER?".... eek cool
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Reply #20 posted 04/14/04 10:38am

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No. if you can't play your instrument well, and I do mean well, don't even hop on stage with P. You have got to blaze, plain and simple. That being said, there isn't a band out right now that's as versatile as P's band. Being a musician myself, you have to pride yourself in being a musician and P's band does just that.
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Reply #21 posted 04/14/04 10:47am

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Marcus Miller & his band, without a doubt, would CREAM Prince and the NPG.


EXactly. I think Marcus MIller alone would cream them. LOL. I"m also gonna mention The Pat Metheny Group. I know it's a jazz group...but ...i still think they'd take em'.
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Reply #22 posted 04/14/04 10:48am

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Living Colour could, easily.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #23 posted 04/14/04 1:11pm

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Believe it or not, but so could Toto (except for vocals)
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Reply #24 posted 04/14/04 1:17pm

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The Time sure come close.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #25 posted 04/14/04 1:43pm

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Skywalker, I have to give you big props. You broke that brother down in a professional non insulting manner. You get my respect for that. And I also agree with you. Prince plays all type of music and he plays it well. Thats why most of us are on his sight right now. As far as randolph, he put on a heck of a performance but again he plays one type of music. He plays it great, but you get my point. Bruce and the boys can play their asses off, but what happens when it is time for a slow song ,or a funk song, and lets not even go to the guitar solos. Bowie is the man. I have a very long running respect for him, but what happens when it is time to play piano, or bass, or guitar or acoustic, well you get my point. Their all great but in a battle of the bands I have to go with prince. Prince is the only man in my opinion that can reland the mothership, and I have personally witnessed the landing of the mothership.
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Reply #26 posted 04/15/04 5:06pm

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SteamForest said:

ThreadBare said:

Marcus Miller & his band, without a doubt, would CREAM Prince and the NPG.


EXactly. I think Marcus MIller alone would cream them. LOL. I"m also gonna mention The Pat Metheny Group. I know it's a jazz group...but ...i still think they'd take em'.



Bruh, I'm listening to Pat Methany's take on "Third Stone from the Sun" on "A Tribute to Jimi Hendrix." He and his musicians are killer.
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Reply #27 posted 04/15/04 5:06pm

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Living Colour could, easily.



Oh my gosh, yes.
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Reply #28 posted 04/16/04 8:55am

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Reply #29 posted 04/16/04 12:38pm

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Yes.....James Brown's band is tight and Maceo has one of the tightest bands alive. Also The Gap Band still jams hard live. P-Funk with the right lineup. There are lot of great bands Prince and the NPG are just one of them in the top of the spotlight.

Sting also puts together great groups. Best group I've seen live is Dr. Zhivegas he will kick anybody ass!!(Bet you never heard of him.) Stay tuned....
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