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Dare I say if U don't like Musicology, there's something wrong with U Okay, here's the deal. I just got Musicology. I keep all reviews out of the box and reserve all for me to decide.
I did not think Musicology would be much. I love TRC and think a lot of Prince's music lately, though not bad, just isn't not great. I liten to N.E.W.S and NPG online stuff, but I was not prepared for what I was about to hear. Musicology is THE BEST ALBUM SINCE "SIGN 'O' THE TIMES", PERIOD. Better than Lovesexy, better than  , better than Diamonds & Pearls, THE BEST SONG WRITING SINCE 1987.
I don't know what all the negativity is about. "Prince is screwing up his last chance", Blah, blah, blah. This is just people wanting to hear Purple Rain 2 or 1999 2. I am convinced this is what it is. Prince hits more NEW kinds of music styles than ever before. Purple Rain 2 WILL NOT HAPPEN PEOPLE! And I'm sure than when the new Purple Rain Special Edition DVD hits the stores, these same people will complain about it. Lately, when I hear a new Prince album, I hear something I may discard. Like the narration on TRC. That album, as great as it is, would be BETTER without it. But Musicology is GREAT the way it is. For the first time in recent years, there is not over playing on this album. The music is so eloquently put together. Everything has a purpose. Musicology is Parade meets TRC meets ATWIAD meets Dream Factory meets NEW PRINCE. Dare I say if U don't like Musicology, there's something wrong with U "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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for me its the other way around, i love hearing new things, thats why TRC is so good, and musicology is a decent but not great album, weve heard it all before. If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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Chook, I have to say you're right on the money. Musicology defines the lost art of SONGCRAFT. Real songs, with creative approaches to all kinds of styles. Lyrics, music and sequence work together on Musicology like no other Prince album since Sign O' the Times.
Musicology has a flow, something running through it. Each song is a perfect precursor to the next...and each song is a perfect follow-up to the last. As you said, everything has a purpose. Not a single wasted note or a self-indulgent (or self-parodying) moment on the whole entire album. | |
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I can appreciate it when somebody just puts out a fun album and that's what this sounds like it is. Some of us prefer it when Prince comes out of left-field like he did with TRC-- the first such effort in a looooong time. Lovesexy/Black album, Purple Rain and 1999 are the only other Prince albums that pleasantly surprised me. That's not to say those are his only good albums, but these are the ones that separate the greats from everyone else. |
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Gold experience is far better than musicology IMO, and i love cheese, but Cinnamon girl is just too much fromage for my pallet If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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lust said: Gold experience is far better than musicology IMO, and i love cheese, but Cinnamon girl is just too much fromage for my pallet
Gold is a GREAT album! I agree with you on that. But Gold is part of the "over-produced" Prince era... "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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lust said: for me its the other way around, i love hearing new things, thats why TRC is so good, and musicology is a decent but not great album, weve heard it all before.
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JC said: lust said: for me its the other way around, i love hearing new things, thats why TRC is so good, and musicology is a decent but not great album, weve heard it all before.
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While I like Musicology, I don't think its the end-all, be-all many are proclaiming it to be (nor is it the piece of crap that others are declaring it either). This disc is getting an even more varied reaction than TRC did, and that's saying something (prior to TRC, I honestly can't recall an album that struck fans so radically differently). Personally, I think its a good, solid disc of material. Its not anywhere near as good as SOTT or Lovesexy, but not every album has to be.
As for the assertation that something must be "wrong" with the folks who dislike the album, that's just pure nonsense. An opinion is a subjective thing. Musicology isn't going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Personally, I never understood those who disliked TRC, but then I happen to love jazz, so it was right up my alley. Doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with those who disagree. If you're not into jazz, then that disc is gonna leave you cold. Some wonder why folks like Evil White Male and thedog are so vehement in their dislike of the recent Prince stuff. Well, if you look at EWM's initial reaction, he just said it bored him, and he didn't see what the big deal was. Next thing, folks are screaming that he's a "hater" and that he should get off the board because he doesn't like what P is doing now. Well, when you push, get prepared to be pushed back. Folks are entitled to express a dissenting opinion. If we didn't have a few folks voicing a contrary opinion, then this place would be mucho boring. Show respect, and you'll have it shown to you. Trust me. 
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JediMaster said: While I like Musicology, I don't think its the end-all, be-all many are proclaiming it to be (nor is it the piece of crap that others are declaring it either). This disc is getting an even more varied reaction than TRC did, and that's saying something (prior to TRC, I honestly can't recall an album that struck fans so radically differently). Personally, I think its a good, solid disc of material. Its not anywhere near as good as SOTT or Lovesexy, but not every album has to be.
As for the assertation that something must be "wrong" with the folks who dislike the album, that's just pure nonsense. An opinion is a subjective thing. Musicology isn't going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Personally, I never understood those who disliked TRC, but then I happen to love jazz, so it was right up my alley. Doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with those who disagree. If you're not into jazz, then that disc is gonna leave you cold. Some wonder why folks like Evil White Male and thedog are so vehement in their dislike of the recent Prince stuff. Well, if you look at EWM's initial reaction, he just said it bored him, and he didn't see what the big deal was. Next thing, folks are screaming that he's a "hater" and that he should get off the board because he doesn't like what P is doing now. Well, when you push, get prepared to be pushed back. Folks are entitled to express a dissenting opinion. If we didn't have a few folks voicing a contrary opinion, then this place would be mucho boring. Show respect, and you'll have it shown to you. Trust me. I guess some people are threatened by opposing opinions. They prefer conformity. What's funny is that they say they want me to go away, yet they're the ones keeping me alive here. If they stop responding to me, I won't have as much to argue with. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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Temptation said: Chook, I have to say you're right on the money. Musicology defines the lost art of SONGCRAFT. Real songs, with creative approaches to all kinds of styles. Lyrics, music and sequence work together on Musicology like no other Prince album since Sign O' the Times.
Musicology has a flow, something running through it. Each song is a perfect precursor to the next...and each song is a perfect follow-up to the last. As you said, everything has a purpose. Not a single wasted note or a self-indulgent (or self-parodying) moment on the whole entire album. Co-sign! Thanks you saved me from a lot of typing. Took the words right outta my mouth! Blue "these are my records!" Blue  | |
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musicology is a fun prince record... the only real problem with musicology is people over analyzing it..
shut up for a minute.. stop being synical and maybe you'll be able to enjoy it... if not, who cares... your loss... there are prince albums i never liked so i know the feeling, but i honestly think musicology is a very inspired pop record. yeah every track isnt perfect... but you have to look at the full picture... | |
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manonearth said: musicology is a fun prince record... the only real problem with musicology is people over analyzing it..
shut up for a minute.. stop being synical and maybe you'll be able to enjoy it... if not, who cares... your loss... nothing to analyze
theres far better dance music on the radio
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EvilWhiteMale said: JediMaster said: While I like Musicology, I don't think its the end-all, be-all many are proclaiming it to be (nor is it the piece of crap that others are declaring it either). This disc is getting an even more varied reaction than TRC did, and that's saying something (prior to TRC, I honestly can't recall an album that struck fans so radically differently). Personally, I think its a good, solid disc of material. Its not anywhere near as good as SOTT or Lovesexy, but not every album has to be.
As for the assertation that something must be "wrong" with the folks who dislike the album, that's just pure nonsense. An opinion is a subjective thing. Musicology isn't going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Personally, I never understood those who disliked TRC, but then I happen to love jazz, so it was right up my alley. Doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with those who disagree. If you're not into jazz, then that disc is gonna leave you cold. Some wonder why folks like Evil White Male and thedog are so vehement in their dislike of the recent Prince stuff. Well, if you look at EWM's initial reaction, he just said it bored him, and he didn't see what the big deal was. Next thing, folks are screaming that he's a "hater" and that he should get off the board because he doesn't like what P is doing now. Well, when you push, get prepared to be pushed back. Folks are entitled to express a dissenting opinion. If we didn't have a few folks voicing a contrary opinion, then this place would be mucho boring. Show respect, and you'll have it shown to you. Trust me. I guess some people are threatened by opposing opinions. They prefer conformity. What's funny is that they say they want me to go away, yet they're the ones keeping me alive here. If they stop responding to me, I won't have as much to argue with. I find that just downright bizzare, don't you? Man, if everyone on here agreed with me, I'd quit showing up! Wouldn't be any point to it! I enjoy differing viewpoints. Sometimes, it really helps you to notice things you didn't in a song before (both for good and bad, of course, but it certainly broadens your picture when you see something through someone else's eyes).
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manonearth said: musicology is a fun prince record... the only real problem with musicology is people over analyzing it..
shut up for a minute.. stop being synical and maybe you'll be able to enjoy it... if not, who cares... your loss... there are prince albums i never liked so i know the feeling, but i honestly think musicology is a very inspired pop record. yeah every track isnt perfect... but you have to look at the full picture... Thank you. Granted, I don't love every track, each one is enjoyable in it's own right. Granted if I had a say in the production of this album, I might replace, extend, or completely remix some tracks...but that wasn't my decision. Besides -this is my thoughts- this album is very tame compared to TRC, NEWS, C-Note, and Xpectations. But, it doesn't compare to any of his previous albums either. i can't see the comparison many have pointed to. (Okay, that's a lie. Marrying Kind could very easily proceed 3 Chains o' Gold and not miss a beat.) _________________________________________
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JediMaster said: I find that just downright bizzare, don't you? Man, if everyone on here agreed with me, I'd quit showing up! Wouldn't be any point to it! I enjoy differing viewpoints. Sometimes, it really helps you to notice things you didn't in a song before (both for good and bad, of course, but it certainly broadens your picture when you see something through someone else's eyes).
I belong to a Manson sote also, but I don't really post there cuz almost everyone shares my opinion on stuff. I'm on the postive side in that place, and I'm bored cuz I'm in the majority. I have much more fun here because I can bring something else to the table instead of the same old shit. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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chookalana said: Okay, here's the deal. I just got Musicology. I keep all reviews out of the box and reserve all for me to decide.
I did not think Musicology would be much. I love TRC and think a lot of Prince's music lately, though not bad, just isn't not great. I liten to N.E.W.S and NPG online stuff, but I was not prepared for what I was about to hear. Musicology is THE BEST ALBUM SINCE "SIGN 'O' THE TIMES", PERIOD. Better than Lovesexy, better than , better than Diamonds & Pearls, THE BEST SONG WRITING SINCE 1987.
I don't know what all the negativity is about. "Prince is screwing up his last chance", Blah, blah, blah. This is just people wanting to hear Purple Rain 2 or 1999 2. I am convinced this is what it is. Prince hits more NEW kinds of music styles than ever before. Purple Rain 2 WILL NOT HAPPEN PEOPLE! And I'm sure than when the new Purple Rain Special Edition DVD hits the stores, these same people will complain about it. Lately, when I hear a new Prince album, I hear something I may discard. Like the narration on TRC. That album, as great as it is, would be BETTER without it. But Musicology is GREAT the way it is. For the first time in recent years, there is not over playing on this album. The music is so eloquently put together. Everything has a purpose. Musicology is Parade meets TRC meets ATWIAD meets Dream Factory meets NEW PRINCE. Dare I say if U don't like Musicology, there's something wrong with U copy print and save...you nailed it kid Oh my, oh my. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: JediMaster said: I find that just downright bizzare, don't you? Man, if everyone on here agreed with me, I'd quit showing up! Wouldn't be any point to it! I enjoy differing viewpoints. Sometimes, it really helps you to notice things you didn't in a song before (both for good and bad, of course, but it certainly broadens your picture when you see something through someone else's eyes).
I belong to a Manson sote also, but I don't really post there cuz almost everyone shares my opinion on stuff. I'm on the postive side in that place, and I'm bored cuz I'm in the majority. I have much more fun here because I can bring something else to the table instead of the same old shit. Why don't you just start being negative there also? For the most part, everybody here gets your online schtick: "I'm EvilWhiteMale the satan worshipping asshole who comes to this board to say shit just to get folks feathers ruffled because I find it amusing although I really love Prince's music" Truthfully, it's amusing at times. But you've gotten so redundant it's become annoying as hell. Take a break, man...just take a break. | |
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psykosoul said: EvilWhiteMale said: I belong to a Manson sote also, but I don't really post there cuz almost everyone shares my opinion on stuff. I'm on the postive side in that place, and I'm bored cuz I'm in the majority. I have much more fun here because I can bring something else to the table instead of the same old shit. Why don't you just start being negative there also? For the most part, everybody here gets your online schtick: "I'm EvilWhiteMale the satan worshipping asshole who comes to this board to say shit just to get folks feathers ruffled because I find it amusing although I really love Prince's music" Truthfully, it's amusing at times. But you've gotten so redundant it's become annoying as hell. Take a break, man...just take a break. copy print and save...you nailed it too ..bravo Oh my, oh my. | |
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chookalana said: Musicology is THE BEST ALBUM SINCE "SIGN 'O' THE TIMES", PERIOD.
Better than Lovesexy, better than , better than Diamonds & Pearls, THE BEST SONG WRITING SINCE 1987.I completely agree with you. | |
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SENSHY said: chookalana said: Okay, here's the deal. I just got Musicology. I keep all reviews out of the box and reserve all for me to decide.
I did not think Musicology would be much. I love TRC and think a lot of Prince's music lately, though not bad, just isn't not great. I liten to N.E.W.S and NPG online stuff, but I was not prepared for what I was about to hear. Musicology is THE BEST ALBUM SINCE "SIGN 'O' THE TIMES", PERIOD. Better than Lovesexy, better than , better than Diamonds & Pearls, THE BEST SONG WRITING SINCE 1987.
I don't know what all the negativity is about. "Prince is screwing up his last chance", Blah, blah, blah. This is just people wanting to hear Purple Rain 2 or 1999 2. I am convinced this is what it is. Prince hits more NEW kinds of music styles than ever before. Purple Rain 2 WILL NOT HAPPEN PEOPLE! And I'm sure than when the new Purple Rain Special Edition DVD hits the stores, these same people will complain about it. Lately, when I hear a new Prince album, I hear something I may discard. Like the narration on TRC. That album, as great as it is, would be BETTER without it. But Musicology is GREAT the way it is. For the first time in recent years, there is not over playing on this album. The music is so eloquently put together. Everything has a purpose. Musicology is Parade meets TRC meets ATWIAD meets Dream Factory meets NEW PRINCE. Dare I say if U don't like Musicology, there's something wrong with U copy print and save...you nailed it kid Thank You  "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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BinaryJustin said: chookalana said: Musicology is THE BEST ALBUM SINCE "SIGN 'O' THE TIMES", PERIOD.
Better than Lovesexy, better than , better than Diamonds & Pearls, THE BEST SONG WRITING SINCE 1987.I completely agree with you. Thank You again!!!! "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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I completely understand that not everyone can always connect with a Prince album, but I'm convinced Musicology is another four star album in the Prince legacy.
It's easily likeable, very accessible, funky, fun, wise, perceptive, mature, charming, and emotionally charged. A great album that showcases Prince's sense of humour and personal growth as a concerned political analyst and happily married man. No ***** classic song here, but plenty of ***1/2 to ****1/2 calibre material to keep the album quite strong. Also, the fact that he didn't let his ambition run too wild by adding an abundance of uninspired, filler songs helps this album out quite a bit. Every song has a purpose and effectively adds to the overall theme and feel of the album. [This message was edited Fri Apr 9 17:02:21 2004 by PurpleKnight] The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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JediMaster said: While I like Musicology, I don't think its the end-all, be-all many are proclaiming it to be (nor is it the piece of crap that others are declaring it either). This disc is getting an even more varied reaction than TRC did, and that's saying something (prior to TRC, I honestly can't recall an album that struck fans so radically differently). Personally, I think its a good, solid disc of material. Its not anywhere near as good as SOTT or Lovesexy, but not every album has to be.
As for the assertation that something must be "wrong" with the folks who dislike the album, that's just pure nonsense. An opinion is a subjective thing. Musicology isn't going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Personally, I never understood those who disliked TRC, but then I happen to love jazz, so it was right up my alley. Doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with those who disagree. If you're not into jazz, then that disc is gonna leave you cold. Some wonder why folks like Evil White Male and thedog are so vehement in their dislike of the recent Prince stuff. Well, if you look at EWM's initial reaction, he just said it bored him, and he didn't see what the big deal was. Next thing, folks are screaming that he's a "hater" and that he should get off the board because he doesn't like what P is doing now. Well, when you push, get prepared to be pushed back. Folks are entitled to express a dissenting opinion. If we didn't have a few folks voicing a contrary opinion, then this place would be mucho boring. Show respect, and you'll have it shown to you. Trust me. This is the singular most mature post I've EVER read on the org. This, and the one where Anji discussed his phone conversations with Prince. Thanks JediMaster! Feel the force!  ..... BULLSEYE!  | |
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JediMaster said: While I like Musicology, I don't think its the end-all, be-all many are proclaiming it to be (nor is it the piece of crap that others are declaring it either). This disc is getting an even more varied reaction than TRC did, and that's saying something (prior to TRC, I honestly can't recall an album that struck fans so radically differently). Personally, I think its a good, solid disc of material. Its not anywhere near as good as SOTT or Lovesexy, but not every album has to be.
As for the assertation that something must be "wrong" with the folks who dislike the album, that's just pure nonsense. An opinion is a subjective thing. Musicology isn't going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Personally, I never understood those who disliked TRC, but then I happen to love jazz, so it was right up my alley. Doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with those who disagree. If you're not into jazz, then that disc is gonna leave you cold. Some wonder why folks like Evil White Male and thedog are so vehement in their dislike of the recent Prince stuff. Well, if you look at EWM's initial reaction, he just said it bored him, and he didn't see what the big deal was. Next thing, folks are screaming that he's a "hater" and that he should get off the board because he doesn't like what P is doing now. Well, when you push, get prepared to be pushed back. Folks are entitled to express a dissenting opinion. If we didn't have a few folks voicing a contrary opinion, then this place would be mucho boring. Show respect, and you'll have it shown to you. Trust me. While errybody is busy suckin your dick let me say this: It is not as if EWM came up with some fair/sensible/objective put criticism...he came up with some purposeful flame inducing bait to describve his thoujghts. Only later after the rian fell did he attempt some common sense opinion. Nobody cares if folks do not like Prince, his output, or anything else..but when you post a certain way.."be prepared ot get pushed back" Oh my, oh my. | |
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SENSHY said: JediMaster said: While I like Musicology, I don't think its the end-all, be-all many are proclaiming it to be (nor is it the piece of crap that others are declaring it either). This disc is getting an even more varied reaction than TRC did, and that's saying something (prior to TRC, I honestly can't recall an album that struck fans so radically differently). Personally, I think its a good, solid disc of material. Its not anywhere near as good as SOTT or Lovesexy, but not every album has to be.
As for the assertation that something must be "wrong" with the folks who dislike the album, that's just pure nonsense. An opinion is a subjective thing. Musicology isn't going to be everyone's cuppa tea. Personally, I never understood those who disliked TRC, but then I happen to love jazz, so it was right up my alley. Doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with those who disagree. If you're not into jazz, then that disc is gonna leave you cold. Some wonder why folks like Evil White Male and thedog are so vehement in their dislike of the recent Prince stuff. Well, if you look at EWM's initial reaction, he just said it bored him, and he didn't see what the big deal was. Next thing, folks are screaming that he's a "hater" and that he should get off the board because he doesn't like what P is doing now. Well, when you push, get prepared to be pushed back. Folks are entitled to express a dissenting opinion. If we didn't have a few folks voicing a contrary opinion, then this place would be mucho boring. Show respect, and you'll have it shown to you. Trust me. While errybody is busy suckin your dick let me say this: It is not as if EWM came up with some fair/sensible/objective put criticism...he came up with some purposeful flame inducing bait to describve his thoujghts. Only later after the rian fell did he attempt some common sense opinion. Nobody cares if folks do not like Prince, his output, or anything else..but when you post a certain way.."be prepared ot get pushed back" You better write better than that if you want your dick sucked as well beeyatch!  ..... BULLSEYE! | |
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Taureau said: SENSHY said: While errybody is busy suckin your dick let me say this: It is not as if EWM came up with some fair/sensible/objective put criticism...he came up with some purposeful flame inducing bait to describve his thoujghts. Only later after the rian fell did he attempt some common sense opinion. Nobody cares if folks do not like Prince, his output, or anything else..but when you post a certain way.."be prepared ot get pushed back" You better write better than that if you want your dick sucked as well beeyatch! I have, and do, where and when required without needing my dick sucked. Ask rd. Oh my, oh my. | |
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