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PrintablePaisleyPark said: EvilWhiteMale said: You're absolutely right, but this album has nothing. It's nothing special technically, which I think most would agree, so that won't sell it. The only thing left is catchyness, and the album is totally lacking in it. I mean seriously, how many Musicology songs keep repeating in your head? fyi good music is not just about catchy hooks or pop sensibility. u say this album has nothing, u must be deaf sorry. yeah Musicology keeps playing in my head but that's just me.  It's a no win situation. If he DID have catchy hooks or whatever, people would be accusing him of "selling out".  NCC2012... your local Trekkie. =/\=
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thedog said: Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of
 would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music. I really think that this is his last chance. Rick James: "Cocaine's a helluva drug." NCC2012... your local Trekkie. =/\=
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NCC2012 said: PaisleyPark said: fyi good music is not just about catchy hooks or pop sensibility. u say this album has nothing, u must be deaf sorry. yeah Musicology keeps playing in my head but that's just me. It's a no win situation. If he DID have catchy hooks or whatever, people would be accusing him of "selling out". So fucking true. When he experiments with a totally new style, ppl say they miss the old sound. When he returns to more of the old sound, ppl complain that they've heard it all before. Rolling Stone gives it four stars, and ppl complain that Rolling Stone's just a joke and that Sony Columbia probably paid them off to give it such a great review. If Rolling Stone were to give it two stars or something like TRC, ppl would say Rolling Stone are fucking morons who don't appreciate good music anymore. With some fans here, The Purple One just can't come out on top. Ah well. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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EvilWhiteMale said: richierich said: It seems most of the fans are diggin the album and tour ,so its been a success really.
The fans would pay to see Prince put Sea Monkeys up his ass. That's just how it goes. OMG, who wouldn't pay to see that? Your telling me if prince booked a gig and the gimick was he would be putting sea monkeys up his but and singing the work part 1, you wouldn't go. June 18th HERE I COME!! brickhouse boys: http://www.myspace.com/brickhouseboys
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Musicology's not going to sell very well, I mean beyond the concert giveaway thingee. EVM is right about that, if nothing else. There are not any hooks here that are in step with modern music, which have to do more with rhythmic intricacies and very cold sounds. Musciology is a little stiff up against something like Timbaland, without a doubt, and the sounds don't have that cold snap of Usher's "Yeah."
But what it does have is heart, a ton of it, and it also has wit (he's funnier than he's been in years), and fabulous singing, and great perspectives on real, messy love, and a love of old music...I know we all like to pretend P invented modern pop music, but he merely reinvented it. I'm beginning to really hear this album as a loving tribute to all the music he grew up with, JB, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Joni Mitchell. And as he gets to be near 50, he's thinking about what happens when his body gives out, and, well, his mother. That loving look back is the most perfect place for him to be right now, and in 10 years, it's going to sound as classic as your faves, EWM. [This message was edited Fri Apr 9 22:11:24 2004 by MendesCity] | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: 3NineteeN04 said: After the opening concert in LA & the days after I wondered how long it would be b4 the inevitable would happen...the KING OF PRINCE.ORG HATERS WOULD BAD MOUTH MUSICOLOGY. It took a little longer than I expected but here he is full-steam-hatred. Instead of telling us what song 'sucked' or why he hates Musicology or what songs he can't stand, he will just blanketed the new Prince music by saying "the whole cd sucks, he blew it again". Album after album..." the whole cd sucks, he blew it again". Post after post..,.."the whole cd sucks, he blew it again". It makes u wonder why are u even bothering to listen 2 ANY of Prince's new music? Why r u here posting if it sucks so much....yet u can't keep talking about, writing about, preaching the hateration about EVERY ALBUM PRINCE RELEASES? Why do u even bother downloading one new Prince song if u hate it so much? Think about it folks. As obessed as us Prince-lovers are, why do 'the Haters keep coming back 4 more n more n more. Ít's the same reason when u go in2 a chat room and theres this one guy trying with all his might 2 piss everyone off....it's 2 get attention, a rise & a reaction from everyone else. If everyone (including me) ignored these folks I'm sure it would end after a while. Think about how many replies would this so-called-hater get if he told us what he actually liked, dare I say loved on a new Prince release? Not many, bc that's why we're all here, yes even the so-called haters...BECAUSE WE ALL LOVE PRINCE MUSIC, BOTH NOW & THEN. I like a few song by Marilyn Manson, but on the other hand I cannot stand most of his music, why in the world I waste any of my God given lifetime 2 go 2 a PRO-FAM-FANsite for Marilyn Manson & type night after day on how much his music sucked? why should I,,,bc it's wrong, disrespectful of him & his diehard fans who love his music. Life's 2 short 4 hate, try some postivity..YES. Sorry, I didn't have patience to read this whole post. But I got the general idea. Look back at some of my past Musicology posts if you want more information on my opinions regarding the album. Trust me I have,,,my question is IS there any Prince songs u've loved in the last 5 years? All I read is crap this, crap that....why do u even waste ur time? Don't u want to come , 3121. It's gonna be so much fun, 3121. That's where the party be, 3121. Y'all can come if u want to, but u can never leave! | |
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Are Ya Kidding Me? Prince is Selling out Concert Halls All over the News and All over Tv this album is Great. I have listened to it like over and over again and I am Never Tired of Hearing it. It's Great and he's gonna Chart Big. He is Going to Blow Everybody's Mind with this Tour! | |
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You're fuckin crazy. This is a four star album, after listening to it many times. It has a great continuity and depth to it. It is warm, funky, soulful, fun and eclectic. Everything we'd want from a Prince album.
Prince is on the way up again. Give him a chance and remove your jaded 80s goggles and see the understated maturity and brilliance of this album. | |
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I am surprised at the release of the single though. Prince is generally selling himself and I would have thought he would have released a more rock orientated track-to tie in with the guitar hero thing of purple Rain. he is marketing himself and it seems to be working but he could do the music in a far more contrived and clever manner if he really wanted to gun for it | |
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mrdespues said: You're fuckin crazy. This is a four star album, after listening to it many times. It has a great continuity and depth to it. It is warm, funky, soulful, fun and eclectic. Everything we'd want from a Prince album.
Prince is on the way up again. Give him a chance and remove your jaded 80s goggles and see the understated maturity and brilliance of this album. I'm with you there. I think this is his best album since Gold Experience or Emancipation. There's a lot of depth to these tracks, they all grow on you and have multiple layers of brilliance. It's introspective, mature, fun, funky, inspired, musically enticing, lyrically intriguing, and just plain charming. The guy has seamlessly blended different styles while intelligently expressing his views on love, society, and government without ever sounding naive or pretentious. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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purplecam said: This song is getting a lot of play on Vh-1 but everytime I turn on MTV, Musicology comes on too. It may be for the "older" crowd but the young crowds getting quite a bit of exposure to this song as well.
Just like people get exposure from living under power lines. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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MendesCity said: Musicology's not going to sell very well, I mean beyond the concert giveaway thingee. EVM is right about that, if nothing else. There are not any hooks here that are in step with modern music, which have to do more with rhythmic intricacies and very cold sounds. Musciology is a little stiff up against something like Timbaland, without a doubt, and the sounds don't have that cold snap of Usher's "Yeah."
But what it does have is heart, a ton of it, and it also has wit (he's funnier than he's been in years), and fabulous singing, and great perspectives on real, messy love, and a love of old music...I know we all like to pretend P invented modern pop music, but he merely reinvented it. I'm beginning to really hear this album as a loving tribute to all the music he grew up with, JB, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Joni Mitchell. And as he gets to be near 50, he's thinking about what happens when his body gives out, and, well, his mother. That loving look back is the most perfect place for him to be right now, and in 10 years, it's going to sound as classic as your faves, EWM. Only the life long fans will know what Musicology is in 10 years. To the rest of the public, it will be as well known as TRC. It certainly won't be a classic in my book. I'd be surprised if it survives my recycle bin. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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3NineteeN04 said: Trust me I have,,,my question is IS there any Prince songs u've loved in the last 5 years? All I read is crap this, crap that....why do u even waste ur time? I can't think of any song I "loved" over the past 5 years. At most I can tollerate some of the unreleased stuff, but I can even remember names right now. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: MendesCity said: Musicology's not going to sell very well, I mean beyond the concert giveaway thingee. EVM is right about that, if nothing else. There are not any hooks here that are in step with modern music, which have to do more with rhythmic intricacies and very cold sounds. Musciology is a little stiff up against something like Timbaland, without a doubt, and the sounds don't have that cold snap of Usher's "Yeah."
But what it does have is heart, a ton of it, and it also has wit (he's funnier than he's been in years), and fabulous singing, and great perspectives on real, messy love, and a love of old music...I know we all like to pretend P invented modern pop music, but he merely reinvented it. I'm beginning to really hear this album as a loving tribute to all the music he grew up with, JB, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Joni Mitchell. And as he gets to be near 50, he's thinking about what happens when his body gives out, and, well, his mother. That loving look back is the most perfect place for him to be right now, and in 10 years, it's going to sound as classic as your faves, EWM. Only the life long fans will know what Musicology is in 10 years. To the rest of the public, it will be as well known as TRC. It certainly won't be a classic in my book. I'd be surprised if it survives my recycle bin. Assumption The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: [color=mediumpurple:044255a105]Assumption[/color] You'll see. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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i agree with the dog and evil white male for the most part in this thread. theyre a voice of reason in the face of all these syncophants on this board. these people will point out the redeeming elements of tony m and jughead to you. musicology is a so so album, on par with any of his 90s albums, but theres only 3-4 great songs on it. and even then, there were better highlights in the previous decade. id take TRC over this new one any day. who cares if critics love it, they love a lot of shit. theyve given great prince albums mediocre reviews and now theyre giving him a pass cos theyve ignored him for so long and have now been reminded of how great he was from all the media blitz. |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: i agree with the dog and evil white male for the most part in this thread. theyre a voice of reason in the face of all these syncophants on this board. these people will point out the redeeming elements of tony m and jughead to you. musicology is a so so album, on par with any of his 90s albums, but theres only 3-4 great songs on it. and even then, there were better highlights in the previous decade. id take TRC over this new one any day. who cares if critics love it, they love a lot of shit. theyve given great prince albums mediocre reviews and now theyre giving him a pass cos theyve ignored him for so long and have now been reminded of how great he was from all the media blitz.
I agree with 95% of this. I do however think Musicology is better than TRC (my opinion of course). I simply couldn't listen to TRC at all without getting sick. I can tollerate Musicology, but that's as far as it goes. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: PurpleKnight said: [color=mediumpurple:044255a105]Assumption[/color] You'll see. Well, even if the album doesn't do well commercially, I don't even care. TGE isn't well known at all, but I love it as a four star album just like I do Musicology. Still, Prince came literally out of nowhere and sold out arenas, got his album signed to a major album, and has received critical acclaim for both the album and the tour. He's made a ton of money off the Musicology downloads and ticket sales, got inducted into the RRHOF in breathtaking fashion, and still has a second single to be released and the 20th anniversary of Purple Rain to come later this year. That's a successful 2004. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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EvilWhiteMale said: funkbabyandthebabysitters said: i agree with the dog and evil white male for the most part in this thread. theyre a voice of reason in the face of all these syncophants on this board. these people will point out the redeeming elements of tony m and jughead to you. musicology is a so so album, on par with any of his 90s albums, but theres only 3-4 great songs on it. and even then, there were better highlights in the previous decade. id take TRC over this new one any day. who cares if critics love it, they love a lot of shit. theyve given great prince albums mediocre reviews and now theyre giving him a pass cos theyve ignored him for so long and have now been reminded of how great he was from all the media blitz.
I agree with 95% of this. I do however think Musicology is better than TRC (my opinion of course). I simply couldn't listen to TRC at all without getting sick. I can tollerate Musicology, but that's as far as it goes. in a years time, people will be able to put the new album in perspective as something a tad better and more refined than rave, but thats about it. then again, theyll probably still love it, lol. im happy that prince is getting so much press coverage, but i wish there was something better to back it up with. if a kid buys this after hearing that prince is andre3000s idol, i doubt hes going to think prince is the man or anything like that. hell probably just think andre has bad taste. |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: in a years time, people will be able to put the new album in perspective as something a tad better and more refined than rave, but thats about it. then again, theyll probably still love it, lol. im happy that prince is getting so much press coverage, but i wish there was something better to back it up with. if a kid buys this after hearing that prince is andre3000s idol, i doubt hes going to think prince is the man or anything like that. hell probably just think andre has bad taste.  "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: If a kid buys this after hearing that prince is andre3000s idol, i doubt hes going to think prince is the man or anything like that. hell probably just think andre has bad taste.
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I just got back from seeing Prince perform, and it's true...this is his last chance and he's blowing it. I'm going to have issues for days after seeing all that mess. It was so horrible that I'm going again on Monday to see him in Indianapolis and I CAN NOT FUCKING WAIT. | |
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thedog said: Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of
would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music. I really think that this is his last chance.  Does Prince EVER have a "last chance".....people said this same $#%@ right after Controversy was released, right after Parade was released, right after LoveSexy was released, right before Emacipation, right before Rave, right before TRC and they STILL saying THIS IS HIS LAST CHANCE..Prince will NEVER have a "last chance" unless he chooses too | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: purplecam said: This song is getting a lot of play on Vh-1 but everytime I turn on MTV, Musicology comes on too. It may be for the "older" crowd but the young crowds getting quite a bit of exposure to this song as well.
Just like people get exposure from living under power lines. ----- It does not matter if you like it or not. What matters is that Thousands of people are going to enjoy Prince in concert this year. Thousands of people are going to listen to this cd and probaly like at least one track. Thousands of people are going to see the Musicology video and maybe download the song. What makes you think that your opinion means anything compared to all of those people. Prince is in the music industry. The idea is to sell records and keep people interested in your art. Prince does this by being diverst. He is very successful at what he does and I don't think you could do a better job if you were in his boots. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: laurarichardson said: What are you going to say when this CD makes it's debut on the charts. Go back to listening to Slipknot and losers like Mariyln Manson and give this board a rest.
Give yourself a fucking rest. If you think this album will do well on the charts, then I laugh in your general direction. ----- You give yourself a fucking rest. If you think the masses are going to run out a purchase the next Slipknot or Manson record I am laughing at you right this minute. | |
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laurarichardson said: It does not matter if you like it or not.
What matters is that Thousands of people are going to enjoy Prince in concert this year. Thousands of people are going to listen to this cd and probaly like at least one track. Thousands of people are going to see the Musicology video and maybe download the song. What makes you think that your opinion means anything compared to all of those people. Prince is in the music industry. The idea is to sell records and keep people interested in your art. Prince does this by being diverst. He is very successful at what he does and I don't think you could do a better job if you were in his boots. What does that have to do with me expressing my opinion? You make me laugh sometimes. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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pald1 said: laurarichardson said: ----- What are you going to say when this CD makes it's debut on the charts. Go back to listening to Slipknot and losers like Mariyln Manson and give this board a rest. What are you going to say when this CD doesn't make the charts? Go back to listening to "Telepathy" by Deborah Allen and losers like TC Ellis and give this board a rest. ----- I think this CD will make it on the charts. I don't think it will sell 10 million copies but it is not going to do bad. I will come back to this board and embarrass the hell of both of you nitwits. I have been coming to this board longer than either one of you and I don't plan on going anywhere. I don't own Telepathy or anything by T.C.Ellis. My guess is that you do and perhaps you are still angry after all these years. I hope you get the proper medication for your issues. | |
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laurarichardson said: I think this CD will make it on the charts. I don't think it will sell 10 million copies but it is not going to do bad. I will come back to this board and embarrass the hell of both of you nitwits.
I have been coming to this board longer than either one of you and I don't plan on going anywhere. I don't own Telepathy or anything by T.C.Ellis. My guess is that you do and perhaps you are still angry after all these years. I hope you get the proper medication for your issues. You're a master debater. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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this was this thread's last chance and it's blown it.
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