EvilWhiteMale said:

said the OFFICIAL HATER

Without a hook, a song isn't really a song.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Congratulations. well done. man u are SO boring. U just keep on
repeating urself over and over again where do u get the time

I like musicology. And now i won't be repeating this another 20 times ok?
Usher 50 cent Britney Justin Timberlake
Y'all need to go to skool!


Prince
Michael Jackson ( Justin )
Madonna (Britney? She never will be as good as Madonna!
Madonna queen of pop: the singles, the video's, her style... Britney: NO style
jus check that video with Britney & Madonna in her white suit: now tell me
who's really COOL? bye bye britney u suck
[This message was edited Fri Apr 9 8:59:03 2004 by PaisleyPark]

JediMaster said:

True, a lot of music would sell better with the right promotion. I just don't hear any real hits on musicology at all. Plus Prince has a big disadvantage because he hasn't had a hit song in over a decade. He's getting a lot of attention with his hits right now, but I have yet to see people go crazy for his new shit. I guess we'll have to see, but if Musicology becomes a hit, I'll be very surprised.

Totally get where you're coming from, even if I don't exactly agree. I think its possible that he could have a hit (notice that I'm not one of the folks declaring each and every song a hit). The fact that the title track is getting VH-1 rotation is the most surprising thing to me. I love the track, but it wasn't what I imagined would get airplay. The man has surprised many times in the past, so he could do it again. BUT, there's a huge difference between "could" and "will". I understand why you are cynical about it, since the man's track record over the last decade tends to indicate that he won't be successful. Still, he's had a lot more success so far this year than I think any of his biggest supporters ever dreamed. That's not the same as having a hit album, but he does seem to be on the right track. All a matter of whether or not he and Columbia both take advantage of the momentum.

superspaceboy said:

I don't hate everything Prince does, and I give him credit when he does good. But most of his recent output is trash.

[color=mediumpurple:8c91671b85]When we first heard Prince was doing a tour in the round, pretty much all of us here thought he was nuts, that he'd be playing in front of arenas that are 3/4 empty.

Now he's playing in front of sold out arenas left and right.

When we first heard the Musicology single, we thought it'd get almost no airplay and wouldn't get noticed.

Now it's getting plenty of airplay and has even made the VH1 countdown.

We were all completely disappointed when rumours of him resigning with WB came to nothing and it looked like the new album would be another unpromoted NPG release.

Now he's signed with Columbia and everything's going smoothly.

A lot of ppl started speculating that the new album would suck, that it'd get canned.

Now it's getting great reviews from almost everyone here (almost everyone in the Musicology questionnaire here has stated that they're really pleased with it), and it even got four stars from RS.


He's already gotten inducted into the RRHOF in amazing fashion (that guitar solo was breathtaking), made a lot of money off this tour and the NPGMC Musicology downloads, and who knows what'll happen when he releases another single like Call My Name or A Million Days. That's not even to mention the extra publicity he'll get from the 20th anniversary or Purple Rain that's still to come later this year.

This is a great year for Prince. Period.[/color]
[This message was edited Fri Apr 9 5:43:41 2004 by PurpleKnight]
[This message was edited Fri Apr 9 5:45:48 2004 by PurpleKnight]

EvilWhiteMale said:

And you should like it, since most of the stuff you listen to is trash! Birds of a feather...!!!

[color=mediumpurple:8c91671b85]When we first heard Prince was doing a tour in the round, pretty much all of us here thought he was nuts, that he'd be playing in front of arenas that are 3/4 empty.

Now he's playing in front of sold out arenas left and right.

When we first heard the Musicology single, we thought it'd get almost no airplay and wouldn't get noticed.

Now it's getting plenty of airplay and has even made the VH1 countdown.

We were all completely disappointed when rumours of him resigning with WB came to nothing and it looked like the new album would be another unpromoted NPG release.

Now he's signed with Columbia and everything's going smoothly.

A lot of ppl started speculating that the new album would suck, that it'd get canned.

Now it's getting great reviews from almost everyone here (almost everyone in the Musicology questionnaire here has stated that they're really pleased with it), and it even got four stars from RS.


He's already gotten inducted into the RRHOF in amazing fashion (that guitar solo was breathtaking), made a lot of money off this tour and the NPGMC Musicology downloads, and who knows what'll happen when he releases another single like Call My Name or A Million Days. That's not even to mention the extra publicity he'll get from the 20th anniversary or Purple Rain that's still to come later this year.

This is a great year for Prince. Period.[/color]

At least when thedog posts some bs like this, he doesn't sit on the thread and argue with everyone who disagrees with him and thank those that do agree with him.
Unlike EWM, he doesn't seem starved for attention.

and soon enough it will disappear.

The majority of video watchers don't dig this music as much as the other stuff out there. It's music for older folks.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

You're absolutely right, but this album has nothing. It's nothing special technically, which I think most would agree, so that won't sell it. The only thing left is catchyness, and the album is totally lacking in it. I mean seriously, how many Musicology songs keep repeating in your head?

shygirl said:

richierich said:

The fans would pay to see Prince put Sea Monkeys up his ass. That's just how it goes.

fyi good music is not just about catchy hooks or pop sensibility.

u say this album has nothing, u must be deaf sorry.

yeah Musicology keeps playing in my head but that's just me.

EvilWhiteMale said:

ARE YOU OKAY DUDE

EvilWhiteMale said:

It will be replaced with the next album...and just go with all the rest. I have yet to see an album of his "disappear" except for the Undertaker



It's on the VH1 playlist...I think that's marketed to an older crowd. Most of his fan base has grown with him and therefore are older. I barely watch videos myself...but when I do I don't turn on MTV or MTV2...It's mostly VH1. I would definitely say he's making music for an older crowd...but that's a no-brainer. He's more mature and so is his music.

superspaceboy said:

Isn't it funny how Prince said videos were for kids?

JediMaster said:

I've just seen it all before. I remember The Greatest Romance getting play on MTV and VH1, and look what happened there. I could be totally wrong here. The album could do well and I will be wrong, but I honestly think it'll get some play, and soon enough it will disappear. The majority of video watchers don't dig this music as much as the other stuff out there. It's music for older folks.

See people, this is how to have a rational debate. Jedi and I don't need to make things personal or start a flame war. Take notes.

SENSHY said:

Get off your knees unless you wanna get rammed from the rear.

Totally get where you're coming from, even if I don't exactly agree. I think its possible that he could have a hit (notice that I'm not one of the folks declaring each and every song a hit). The fact that the title track is getting VH-1 rotation is the most surprising thing to me. I love the track, but it wasn't what I imagined would get airplay. The man has surprised many times in the past, so he could do it again. BUT, there's a huge difference between "could" and "will". I understand why you are cynical about it, since the man's track record over the last decade tends to indicate that he won't be successful. Still, he's had a lot more success so far this year than I think any of his biggest supporters ever dreamed. That's not the same as having a hit album, but he does seem to be on the right track. All a matter of whether or not he and Columbia both take advantage of the momentum.

superspaceboy said:

Isn't it funny how Prince said videos were for kids?

EvilWhiteMale said:

you cant even get buggery right much less prince music debate lol...on knees worshipping is more akin to fellatio not sodomy.

SENSHY said:

Well your emoticon is certainly putting his hands on the floor.

I think they used to be and they still are a vehicle to get music out. But time has changed...videos have changed. Those that grew up on MTV in the 80's are now in their 30's and 40's...and still watch videos now and then. I know what me and my friends watch...VHI video request ...I've seen all kinds of crazy stuff that I used to watch as a kid.

Okay, I'm not going to debate whether or not Musicology sucks, since everyone has their own opinion on that. What I have to disagree with EWM and thedog on is that that has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not this album will sell. If its properly promoted it will, regardless of how good the content is. Usher's new album is at #1, and its a veritable feast of pure, utter shite. Britney sells albums left and right, and they are completely craptacular. Justin Timberlake has yet to do anything that doesn't sound like he dug it out of Michael Jackson's trash, and he continuosly charts high. Why? Because all these artists are getting the proper push of promotion. If Columbia pushes this album properly, it will sell, regardless of the content.

Two of Prince's best selling albums are also two many fans consider among his weakest: Batman and Diamonds & Pearls. These did not sell well because they were "masterpieces', but rather because of the fact that WB pushed them properly, and Prince released singles that attracted folks to the discs. If folks had heard "Jughead" first off D&P, that album wouldn't have sold nearly as much. If "Lemon Crush" had been the first release off of "Batman" it would not have taken in nearly as much, in spite of the success of the film. Sure, "Rave" got promoted by Arista, but Clive chose "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" as the first single, which was a huge mistake. Clive's attempt to push P to the R&B market, instead of the VH-1 crowd, was his biggest blunder. Had "So Far, So Pleased" been the lead single, the popularity of No Doubt alone would have probably generated interest. So far, Columbia is pushing the single of "Musicology" to the VH-1 viewership, which is a very smart move. The fact that Prince has already entered their countdown is a pretty good sign that the promotion is working.

So, regardless of whether or not the album is a bad one or not, it really doesn't matter. Quality hasn't been what has sold albums in a good long while.

superspaceboy said:

Yeah, but he made that comment just a few years ago. He made it sound like he'd never do videos again.