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Thread started 04/08/04 11:59am

thedog

This is Prince's last chance and he's blowing it.

Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of prince would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music.
I really think that this is his last chance.
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Reply #1 posted 04/08/04 12:04pm

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question #1: have you even listened to the album? and not just skippin through tracks, i mean totally in full.

at any rate:

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Reply #2 posted 04/08/04 12:05pm

JAMIESTARR

thedog said:

Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of prince would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music.
I really think that this is his last chance.

Who cares, Prince doesn't have anything to prove to anybody
he's doing what he has always donewhich is: WHATEVER HE WANTS
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Reply #3 posted 04/08/04 12:06pm

Anxiety

Yeah, Prince is really messing it all up, boy. It's painful. I just keep listening to his new album over and over and count the days til the next concert I get to see, because it's like watching a car crash. I just can't take my eyes off the carnage.
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Reply #4 posted 04/08/04 12:08pm

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If selling out arenas and having a video played regularly on MTV and all the other stations is "blowing it" then he really must be doing a great job at it right now.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #5 posted 04/08/04 12:13pm

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What are you talking about?

His arena shows are selling out, he's gotten tons of positive press off his fantastic live performances, he's cut back on the inexplicably weird prince behavior, the Musicology album has gotten great reviews from critics (including **** from RS) and most fans (including me), and the Musicology single is not only actually getting airplay but even made the VH1 countdown.

So yeah, I guess that constitutes blowing it.
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Reply #6 posted 04/08/04 12:15pm

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I'm still stuck on how this is his "last chance." confuse
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Reply #7 posted 04/08/04 12:15pm

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Four star album review (Rolling Stone), a lot of press coverage, rock 'n' roll hall of fame induction as soon as he was eligible and a sold-out tour. I see your point.
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Reply #8 posted 04/08/04 12:23pm

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Prince is only doing well because of the promotion of the old songs. Musicology itself isn't helping him at all. Sure, the video gets a good amount of play, but so what? It'll all be forgotten about soon enough, cuz it sucks. And who cares about reviews? When the Rolling Stone gives 2 stars you all say they don't know what they're talking about, but now suddenly the review means something. Prince's new music won't get him anywhere.
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Reply #9 posted 04/08/04 12:26pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

question #1: have you even listened to the album? and not just skippin through tracks, i mean totally in full.

at any rate:


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Reply #10 posted 04/08/04 12:29pm

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It seems most of the fans are diggin the album and tour ,so its been a success really. lol
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/04 12:35pm

EvilWhiteMale

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richierich said:

It seems most of the fans are diggin the album and tour ,so its been a success really. lol



The fans would pay to see Prince put Sea Monkeys up his ass. That's just how it goes.
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/04 12:36pm

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I want to make this point... Success is a personal thing....I personally don't know what " the plan" was, but who knows if Prince has accomplished what he set out to do- from a personal aspect. Since we dont know what his objectives were, are any of us in a position to say he is blowing it (whatever this means). Prince is already a ICON in the music industry, and nothing is likely to change that, so there is nothing left to prove. As far as I'm concerned- no comback to make.
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Reply #13 posted 04/08/04 12:41pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Prince is only doing well because of the promotion of the old songs. Musicology itself isn't helping him at all. Sure, the video gets a good amount of play, but so what? It'll all be forgotten about soon enough, cuz it sucks. And who cares about reviews? When the Rolling Stone gives 2 stars you all say they don't know what they're talking about, but now suddenly the review means something. Prince's new music won't get him anywhere.

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What are you going to say when this CD makes it's debut on the charts. Go back to listening to Slipknot and losers like Mariyln Manson and give this board a rest.
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/04 12:41pm

JOEYCOCO

does your OPINION really matter?
the answer is: HELL NO!

thedog said:

Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of prince would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music.
I really think that this is his last chance.
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/04 12:42pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

richierich said:

It seems most of the fans are diggin the album and tour ,so its been a success really. lol



The fans would pay to see Prince put Sea Monkeys up his ass. That's just how it goes.



Ye its true some fans would be happy with any old shit Prince does but there are a large amount that are not. Even the fans that are not easily pleased seem quite happy with the new album.
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Reply #16 posted 04/08/04 12:43pm

JonSnow

thedog said:

Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of prince would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music.
I really think that this is his last chance.



why don't you type up a nice memo outlining your plan for advancing his career, and send it to Prince so that he can fully benefit from your expertise? I think that would be really cool.

Be sure to include your formula for making an album that doesn't "stink".

That way Prince can be enlightened, and follow your advice to new found heights of glory.

I know Prince is breathlessly awaiting this information, so please send as soon as possible before he further sinks what is left of his pathetic career. I mean, he is careening desperately off path right now, so time is of the essence.
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Reply #17 posted 04/08/04 12:44pm

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laurarichardson said:

What are you going to say when this CD makes it's debut on the charts. Go back to listening to Slipknot and losers like Mariyln Manson and give this board a rest.



Give yourself a fucking rest. If you think this album will do well on the charts, then I laugh in your general direction.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #18 posted 04/08/04 12:44pm

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thedog said:

Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of prince would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music.
I really think that this is his last chance.


Well, I don't think Musicology was aweful, there are some songs which kinda suck, but overall there a quite a few cuts that are VERY radio-friendly. Him promoting the album by going on tour, doing a video and going on TV shows and peforming, doing TV & magazine interviews..damn...how is he "blowing it"?

Illusion, Coma...I can see this being played on Hip Hop radio stations. Pop stations can play Cinnamon Girl and Rock stations can play A Million Days. R& B stations can play Sleep on The Couch or Call My Name. Damn..how is he "blowing it"?

The only way I see Prince blowing it, is by not picking the right songs to be released as singles.Something he should ask his fans...
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/04 12:46pm

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first of all non prince fanatics are loving musicology... i work in radio promotion and i was so surprised the reaction of people to this record.. i mean i love the track.. but its hard to be objective as a fan... but casual prince fans are really diggin the single.. and the people i've played the record for have been impressed... i think this album is gonna do real well for him... hell it already sold 500,000 copies if you add the shows and online sales together...

let it run its course.. most of you haters hated the album before you heard it... had me expecting a turd.. and it turned out to be a fuckin gem...
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Reply #20 posted 04/08/04 12:46pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

richierich said:

It seems most of the fans are diggin the album and tour ,so its been a success really. lol





The fans would pay to see Prince put Sea Monkeys up his ass. That's just how it goes.

EWM I disagree with much of what you say, but I'm with you on this. I love Prince, as an artist, but some of the people who post on these threads go far beyond obsessed , I am literally screaming at your comment LOL!!!!!
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/04 12:48pm

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See, I don't get this last chance stuff. Last chance for what? TO sell records, To tour, to make music, to keep in the public eye? And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how is he blowing it? OK so, you don't like musicology...many do and have said so. How does an album that you think sucks translate to blowing it?

Everytime he is doubted he bounces back like a superball...
His fight with the warners
Writing Slave on the face
Changing his name
Emancipation
CB fiasco
Rave release
Becoming a JH
NEWS

Each of these things...especially the later ones, we keep saying he won't be back etc..etc. He proves everyone wrong all the time. He knew he'd be here. ANd he will still be here years to come...just like bowie and dylan...aint going anywhere...not as long as there is music to play and make.

Musicology is a vehicle to get him in the public eye. It would be whatever album he was doing right now. It's not his greatest nor his worst. I think it's what the public wants and can handle. He gave us The Chocolate Invasion and Slaughterhouse...which he is giving no fanfare. And there are some excellent gems on those two that blow musicology away. Most casual fans will get musicology and the rest will delve.


Hopefully his wad will blow and hit some of these nay-sayers in the face. eek I meant that sort of sarcastically.

Tito get me a tissue!

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Reply #22 posted 04/08/04 12:49pm

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let it run its course.. most of you haters hated the album before you heard it... had me expecting a turd.. and it turned out to be a fuckin gem...


A-fucking-men. I thought the album was gonna be pretty average, and then I'm shocked to hear what is easily a four star album. imo.
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Reply #23 posted 04/08/04 12:51pm

DK47

thedog said:

Come on. Musicology stinks. Prince has got a chance to make a big come-back and he's blowing it with a bad album, just like he blew his chance when he made a little stir before Rave was released by announcing in a press conference that "Prince" instead of prince would be the producer.
All Prince is going to do after stiring up this new interest in him at the grammies, is remind most people of why they turned from him in the first place. Crappy music.
I really think that this is his last chance.

nuts Hey look ay me, all I had to do was create a username and now I can leave a post just like you guys.Hmm...lets see...how bout Prince is really blowing it nuts

Man I'll tell ya, Ive been doin this Prince thing for over 23years, been to 31 concerts. Ive reviewed bout every fart he passed. Sure Prince has put some crap on tape folks (Rave , NPS, NEWS and a few more, but later for that) Musicology aint one of them folks. this album has some kinda infectionistic groove goin thru it. You cant review it after 1 or 2 listens. If we did that ATWIAD, SOTT, would not exist. This album has pulled back some skin that i thought SOTT had covered. I pity yawl that dont feel it, youre really missing out on something good. Ive got people that thought Prince was dead or something asking for tickets, when is his new album out, I didnt know he could axe like that. Hes big as ever, and this "comback" is blowin up . Naysayers are grabbin at crumbs now. Pity. cloud9
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Reply #24 posted 04/08/04 12:53pm

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ndigo said:


EWM I disagree with much of what you say, but I'm with you on this. I love Prince, as an artist, but some of the people who post on these threads go far beyond obsessed , I am literally screaming at your comment LOL!!!!!



Thanks.

It's true though. No matter how lame Prince's music is, the fans, or "fams" will claim to love it. They want to love it so much that they actually will.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #25 posted 04/08/04 1:05pm

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I'm a huge fan and I don't love the album. I think it is pure Prince cheese but nobody can do it like him. As far as the tour goes, I think this tour is his way of giving something back to his band. "Hey band, y'all have been great.....let's go have some fun and make some real money!" It is also his way of saying "Hey....I'm still here making music in case you didn't know.....in fact, I make so much music that here's a free cd just to show you I don't give a S---about making top ten singles anymore." "Catch me on my next tour where I'll be opening up for Jehovah himself."
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Reply #26 posted 04/08/04 1:09pm

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Prince is only doing well because of the promotion of the old songs. Musicology itself isn't helping him at all. Sure, the video gets a good amount of play, but so what? It'll all be forgotten about soon enough, cuz it sucks. And who cares about reviews? When the Rolling Stone gives 2 stars you all say they don't know what they're talking about, but now suddenly the review means something. Prince's new music won't get him anywhere.



I for one think Musicology is an OK album. BUT i know for a fact that about 20 to 25 people i know really like the single musicology and say they are going to buy it. And these are people who generally don't like prince. Ask around and you'll find that a lot of non fans will like muiscology and that is why this can be his comeback.
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Reply #27 posted 04/08/04 1:10pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

ndigo said:


EWM I disagree with much of what you say, but I'm with you on this. I love Prince, as an artist, but some of the people who post on these threads go far beyond obsessed , I am literally screaming at your comment LOL!!!!!



Thanks.

It's true though. No matter how lame Prince's music is, the fans, or "fams" will claim to love it. They want to love it so much that they actually will.


I have yet to see that much obsession here on the .org. That's over on npgmc. I think the majority here who I consider to be fans have an even perspective.

I think that the haters want to hate whatever Prince comes out with so much that they will.

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Reply #28 posted 04/08/04 1:10pm

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Anxiety said:

Yeah, Prince is really messing it all up, boy. It's painful. I just keep listening to his new album over and over and count the days til the next concert I get to see, because it's like watching a car crash. I just can't take my eyes off the carnage.


OMFG That is classic! smile smile smile
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Reply #29 posted 04/08/04 1:11pm

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scala said:


I for one think Musicology is an OK album. BUT i know for a fact that about 20 to 25 people i know really like the single musicology and say they are going to buy it. And these are people who generally don't like prince. Ask around and you'll find that a lot of non fans will like muiscology and that is why this can be his comeback.



Haven't met them yet, but I'll keep my ears open.
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