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PrintableTom said: jpav said: We've all seen you, (you know who you are), comin' round here over the last few months, talkin' loud, spewin' negativity for negativity's sake, just hoping, praying, prediciting that Muiscology would flop, reviewing it as trash (probably the identical review you wrote prior to actually hearing it), assuring us that the tour would suck, that he couldn't fill arenas, that radio and the media wouldn't touch him, that giving away the CD was a dumb idea, that he was forever washed up, that he needs to sound more like this, or write songs like that, blah, blah, blah. (An strangely loving it, which speaks volumes about your own self-hatred, as you visit here daily.)
Now it's time to step up, and say, "Prince proved me wrong - I deserve a severe spankin'!" The evidence: Grammys/RRHOF performances - Legendary Musicology Tour - On Fire (Pollstar#1) Musicology single and video - poised to be his biggest in nearly 10 years Musicology album - getting kudos from all over the world Musicology Tour - Ditto Musicology Theater Simulcast - Savy Media - Eatin' Him Up! (Newsweek, Time, Rolling Stone, etc. NPGMC - Downloads being gobbled up Prince - RRHOF inductee, media darling, and #1 at the bank (probably will make more this year than ever before) Prince fans - Get very solid album, celebrated tour, downloads, lots of P. in the press, and more to discuss here than in years *So let's see who's gonna admit that maybe, just maybe, Prince knew a little more than you did about how to do things. Just maybe, it's time to let go of that tired, old, hard-to-maintain hatin' facade and simply fess up; that Prince is still funky, still writing songs that keep you here, and cooler than ever cause he never melted down or faded away, and now people are wakin' up. Who's gonna come up big and admit, Prince won? Some of ya'll may be too "Evil" or "Freaky" to do that, but hey, we all know what time it is! 
Time for the Nay-Sayers to become Yah-Sayers! Step into the light so we can all see ya, and greet you with a sound spankin' and a big ol' funky kiss! "Listen to the groove ya'll, let it unwind yo mind!" Sorry, but I don't like Musicology, and there is no reason why I should have to apologize to you or anyone else for that. You're talking like George Bush with your "youre either for us or against us" drivel. Someone saying they don't like Musicology doesnt make them stupid any more than saying you like it turns you into Einstein. It sounds like you're so eager to place yourself in an "Im right, youre wrong" position, that youre completely losing touch with reality. And why does some mainstream praise of the album validate its worth to you, when for years the opposite never held true? People's appreciation of art is also largely subjective. Why not accept the fact that people have diverse interests instead of complaining about it. It just seems pointless to argue that one persons opinion is better than anothers. Hey Tom, The post is really just fun, (somethin' SOME people can't do anymore...not you of course)  but to clarify - you must admit that there are many here who lurk around, being negative just to be negative. It's no longer about musical critique, and that's a FACT. You or anybody can give the "art is subjective" line, but the truth is, that ain't what comes across in the "Prince sucks" posts, and the "You're a moron if you think this is good music" posts, and the constant insinuation into otherwise "constructive" (Which doesn't mean positive) posts.
This thread is really not as much about subjective stuff at all, as it was about the FACT that Prince has succeeded in doing much of what he has set out to do this year, and the above examples spell this out. This is about those haters admitting, "I may not be as all-knowing as I demeaningly tell you I am everyday!" Hey, whatever you feel about the music is fine, that's what music is for - to inspire and entertain. But I think there are those in these cyber parts who for some strange, twisted reason, can't stand to see Prince succeed, or to see others enjoying music that they do not. They are the Audio Police, and they will decide what we are allowed to praise and enjoy (which, for them, usually ends with TGE)! So again, I didn't say Prince released Parade 2 this year (although some are waiting). I simply said, he did what many have said he could no longer do, and they can't stand it. Thanks for the reply! P.S. Jane Doe and John Doe have the right to like this album or that album, but they also need to come with more than insults. | |
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Cloudbuster said: SexyBeautifulOne said: It's called the truth! Hurts doesn't it?
That's an equally fucked up bullshit comment. Hater! 
Go away, nasty Hater! | |
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All feeel the love 
Everone is welcome, just don't take my seat! Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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TheFrog said: Hater!
Go away, nasty Hater!  | |
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To hell with haters, I hate them haters, I really do!!
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garganta said: To hell with haters, I hate them haters, I really do!!
Hater. | |
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TheFrog said: garganta said: To hell with haters, I hate them haters, I really do!!
Hater. hate on | |
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jpav said: We've all seen you, (you know who you are), comin' round here over the last few months, talkin' loud, spewin' negativity for negativity's sake, just hoping, praying, prediciting that Muiscology would flop, reviewing it as trash (probably the identical review you wrote prior to actually hearing it), assuring us that the tour would suck, that he couldn't fill arenas, that radio and the media wouldn't touch him, that giving away the CD was a dumb idea, that he was forever washed up, that he needs to sound more like this, or write songs like that, blah, blah, blah. (An strangely loving it, which speaks volumes about your own self-hatred, as you visit here daily.)
Now it's time to step up, and say, "Prince proved me wrong - I deserve a severe spankin'!" The evidence: Grammys/RRHOF performances - Legendary Musicology Tour - On Fire (Pollstar#1) Musicology single and video - poised to be his biggest in nearly 10 years Musicology album - getting kudos from all over the world Musicology Tour - Ditto Musicology Theater Simulcast - Savy Media - Eatin' Him Up! (Newsweek, Time, Rolling Stone, etc. NPGMC - Downloads being gobbled up Prince - RRHOF inductee, media darling, and #1 at the bank (probably will make more this year than ever before) Prince fans - Get very solid album, celebrated tour, downloads, lots of P. in the press, and more to discuss here than in years *So let's see who's gonna admit that maybe, just maybe, Prince knew a little more than you did about how to do things. Just maybe, it's time to let go of that tired, old, hard-to-maintain hatin' facade and simply fess up; that Prince is still funky, still writing songs that keep you here, and cooler than ever cause he never melted down or faded away, and now people are wakin' up. Who's gonna come up big and admit, Prince won? Some of ya'll may be too "Evil" or "Freaky" to do that, but hey, we all know what time it is!
Time for the Nay-Sayers to become Yah-Sayers! Step into the light so we can all see ya, and greet you with a sound spankin' and a big ol' funky kiss! "Listen to the groove ya'll, let it unwind yo mind!"  I certainly applaud your effort, however, you're seriously wasting your time if you think the OrgHateration is actually going to admit that it's wrong. That's like Bush admitting he was wrong about Iraq and the whole war thing. Sorry love just ain't gonna happen.
For me just knowing that it's eating them up inside, seeing Prince everywhere, hearing Prince everywhere, the stellar performances, the sold-out shows, the overjoyed bliss of his supporters, is all the satisfaction I need. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: I certainly applaud your effort, however, you're seriously wasting your time if you think the OrgHateration is actually going to admit that it's wrong. That's like Bush admitting he was wrong about Iraq and the whole war thing. Sorry love just ain't gonna happen.
For me just knowing that it's eating them up inside, seeing Prince everywhere, hearing Prince everywhere, the stellar performances, the sold-out shows, the overjoyed bliss of his supporters, is all the satisfaction I need. [/quote] Do i qualify as part of the OrgHateration ? 
I like Prince and i'm chuffed he's doing well, but i find what you just said really funny. Am i a hater or not?  | |
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jpav said: We've all seen you, (you know who you are), comin' round here over the last few months, talkin' loud, spewin' negativity for negativity's sake, just hoping, praying, prediciting that Muiscology would flop, reviewing it as trash (probably the identical review you wrote prior to actually hearing it), assuring us that the tour would suck, that he couldn't fill arenas, that radio and the media wouldn't touch him, that giving away the CD was a dumb idea, that he was forever washed up, that he needs to sound more like this, or write songs like that, blah, blah, blah. (An strangely loving it, which speaks volumes about your own self-hatred, as you visit here daily.)
Now it's time to step up, and say, "Prince proved me wrong - I deserve a severe spankin'!" The evidence: Grammys/RRHOF performances - Legendary Musicology Tour - On Fire (Pollstar#1) Musicology single and video - poised to be his biggest in nearly 10 years Musicology album - getting kudos from all over the world Musicology Tour - Ditto Musicology Theater Simulcast - Savy Media - Eatin' Him Up! (Newsweek, Time, Rolling Stone, etc. NPGMC - Downloads being gobbled up Prince - RRHOF inductee, media darling, and #1 at the bank (probably will make more this year than ever before) Prince fans - Get very solid album, celebrated tour, downloads, lots of P. in the press, and more to discuss here than in years *So let's see who's gonna admit that maybe, just maybe, Prince knew a little more than you did about how to do things. Just maybe, it's time to let go of that tired, old, hard-to-maintain hatin' facade and simply fess up; that Prince is still funky, still writing songs that keep you here, and cooler than ever cause he never melted down or faded away, and now people are wakin' up. Who's gonna come up big and admit, Prince won? Some of ya'll may be too "Evil" or "Freaky" to do that, but hey, we all know what time it is!
Time for the Nay-Sayers to become Yah-Sayers! Step into the light so we can all see ya, and greet you with a sound spankin' and a big ol' funky kiss! "Listen to the groove ya'll, let it unwind yo mind!" Definite Co-Sign! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: jpav said: We've all seen you, (you know who you are), comin' round here over the last few months, talkin' loud, spewin' negativity for negativity's sake, just hoping, praying, prediciting that Muiscology would flop, reviewing it as trash (probably the identical review you wrote prior to actually hearing it), assuring us that the tour would suck, that he couldn't fill arenas, that radio and the media wouldn't touch him, that giving away the CD was a dumb idea, that he was forever washed up, that he needs to sound more like this, or write songs like that, blah, blah, blah. (An strangely loving it, which speaks volumes about your own self-hatred, as you visit here daily.)
Now it's time to step up, and say, "Prince proved me wrong - I deserve a severe spankin'!" The evidence: Grammys/RRHOF performances - Legendary Musicology Tour - On Fire (Pollstar#1) Musicology single and video - poised to be his biggest in nearly 10 years Musicology album - getting kudos from all over the world Musicology Tour - Ditto Musicology Theater Simulcast - Savy Media - Eatin' Him Up! (Newsweek, Time, Rolling Stone, etc. NPGMC - Downloads being gobbled up Prince - RRHOF inductee, media darling, and #1 at the bank (probably will make more this year than ever before) Prince fans - Get very solid album, celebrated tour, downloads, lots of P. in the press, and more to discuss here than in years *So let's see who's gonna admit that maybe, just maybe, Prince knew a little more than you did about how to do things. Just maybe, it's time to let go of that tired, old, hard-to-maintain hatin' facade and simply fess up; that Prince is still funky, still writing songs that keep you here, and cooler than ever cause he never melted down or faded away, and now people are wakin' up. Who's gonna come up big and admit, Prince won? Some of ya'll may be too "Evil" or "Freaky" to do that, but hey, we all know what time it is!
Time for the Nay-Sayers to become Yah-Sayers! Step into the light so we can all see ya, and greet you with a sound spankin' and a big ol' funky kiss! "Listen to the groove ya'll, let it unwind yo mind!" I certainly applaud your effort, however, you're seriously wasting your time if you think the OrgHateration is actually going to admit that it's wrong. That's like Bush admitting he was wrong about Iraq and the whole war thing. Sorry love just ain't gonna happen.
For me just knowing that it's eating them up inside, seeing Prince everywhere, hearing Prince everywhere, the stellar performances, the sold-out shows, the overjoyed bliss of his supporters, is all the satisfaction I need. Mmm-hmm!!!     | |
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Cloudbuster said: SexyBeautifulOne said: It's called the truth! Hurts doesn't it?
That's an equally fucked up bullshit comment. Awww, poor little boo boo, can't deal with the truth. 
Well that's just too damn bad!  | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Awww, poor little boo boo, can't deal with the truth.
Well that's just too damn bad!  The meds are on their way. | |
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Romance1600 said: Don't get your lingerie in a twist Aerogram, it's just pop music.
Honey... I'm not the one who's neurotically frequenting the fan site of an artist I no longer respect. | |
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I'm no hater, but... but... the single STILL doesn't do a lot for me. I'm excited that Prince is getting all the attention that he's getting - but to a major degree - I won't say it's some odd spontaneous occurrence.
Do you remember his first appearance on Tavis? Everyone was gaga that he was even making a public, ON AIR appearance, and, holy mother, performing LIVE! and OH my GOD, WITH WENDY! So. Given that he rarely performs on television, rarely gives interviews, and damn sure almost NEVER appears on awards shows, then, the media is hell yes going batshit over all this sudden media work that HE is doing. It's not that the media was paying attention to Paris Hilton and somebody sat up and said, "Screw this, I wonder what Prince is up to!" No. Prince has worked the machine like a true mechanic should. I don't know why he suddenly gave up the hermit act and went the way that MOST artists go when rolling out a new record, but it's definitely putting him up there. I hope the record is as good as RS says it is. Musicology is still a mediocre song, Prince or otherwise. There's just not a lot or energy in the song. But that's just MY OPINION, so don't come to my house and start chopping down trees or nothing crazy like that. Forgive me if I'm still dubious of all this. Prince IS awesome - I'm no hater - just saying, all the things you posted as evidence that Prince is back, or better than ever or whatever - I only see it as Prince playing the game the way we've all wanted for years. [This message was edited Wed Apr 7 5:40:53 2004 by otan] The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3 | |
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shygirl said: I don't mean to bring race into it, but the fact that a Black man has totally beat the system makes them evil white males even more hateful.
 Well, we all know that Prince is a lot less 'black' than he wants to be. "How embarrasing to be human!"
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Cloudbuster said: shygirl said: I don't mean to bring race into it, but the fact that a Black man has totally beat the system makes them evil white males even more hateful.
What kinda fucked up bullshit comment is that?!! ----- It is true. Sad but true. | |
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right, right... dain-daingerous
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superstarolly said: Where's the gold experience now?
Who cares? That was a critical success just like Musicology's been so far. Considering it wasn't promoted at all, I consider it a success. At least most fans appreciate it now. That coupled with rave reviews of his public tv appearances and his sold out arena shows alone makes this the best year Prince's career has had in years. Honestly though, it seems impossible for any Prince album to get appreciated when it first comes out. TGE was "overproduced", now it's considered a great Prince album. TRC was blasted for having religious lyrics and the Darth Vader voice, now ppl are talking about how brilliantly adventurous and innovative an album it is. I bet in a couple years, a lot of these negative, overly critical Prince fans will be talking about how good and fun an album Musicology is to listen to. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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SENSHY said: jpav said: We've all seen you, (you know who you are), comin' round here over the last few months, talkin' loud, spewin' negativity for negativity's sake, just hoping, praying, prediciting that Muiscology would flop, reviewing it as trash (probably the identical review you wrote prior to actually hearing it), assuring us that the tour would suck, that he couldn't fill arenas, that radio and the media wouldn't touch him, that giving away the CD was a dumb idea, that he was forever washed up, that he needs to sound more like this, or write songs like that, blah, blah, blah. (An strangely loving it, which speaks volumes about your own self-hatred, as you visit here daily.)
Now it's time to step up, and say, "Prince proved me wrong - I deserve a severe spankin'!" The evidence: Grammys/RRHOF performances - Legendary Musicology Tour - On Fire (Pollstar#1) Musicology single and video - poised to be his biggest in nearly 10 years Musicology album - getting kudos from all over the world Musicology Tour - Ditto Musicology Theater Simulcast - Savy Media - Eatin' Him Up! (Newsweek, Time, Rolling Stone, etc. NPGMC - Downloads being gobbled up Prince - RRHOF inductee, media darling, and #1 at the bank (probably will make more this year than ever before) Prince fans - Get very solid album, celebrated tour, downloads, lots of P. in the press, and more to discuss here than in years *So let's see who's gonna admit that maybe, just maybe, Prince knew a little more than you did about how to do things. Just maybe, it's time to let go of that tired, old, hard-to-maintain hatin' facade and simply fess up; that Prince is still funky, still writing songs that keep you here, and cooler than ever cause he never melted down or faded away, and now people are wakin' up. Who's gonna come up big and admit, Prince won? Some of ya'll may be too "Evil" or "Freaky" to do that, but hey, we all know what time it is!
Time for the Nay-Sayers to become Yah-Sayers! Step into the light so we can all see ya, and greet you with a sound spankin' and a big ol' funky kiss! "Listen to the groove ya'll, let it unwind yo mind!" Copy print save Copy, print, wipe arse with. | |
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TheFrog said: Copy, print, wipe arse with.
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PRINCE REALLY HOT RIGHT NOW BUT WE SEE HOW ALBUM SELL BEFORE WE DO VICTORY DANCE OK? P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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laurarichardson said: Cloudbuster said: What kinda fucked up bullshit comment is that?!! ----- It is true. Sad but true. How is it true? What the fuck has race got to do with it? And I fail to understand how Prince has beat the system. Certainly re-signing with a major label shows no indication of beating the system. If anything it's a step backwards. | |
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The album is still crap, so let's all calm down here. Sure people are eating up all his hits stuff, but that doesn't mean his new stuff is gonna do well. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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EvilWhiteMale said: The album is still crap, so let's all calm down here. Sure people are eating up all his hits stuff, but that doesn't mean his new stuff is gonna do well.
Well, it's only your opinion that it's crap. Rolling Stone gave it ****, and most reviews from ppl here have been really positive. So it's not like everyone has completely canned it like with NPS. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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shygirl said: Prince won the war big time. And only someone as unique and talented as Prince could do it.
Like I said before, the haters wanted to see Prince shrivel up and die or become a total wack job. Since neither happened, they hate him even more. I don't mean to bring race into it, but the fact that a Black man has totally beat the system makes them evil white males even more hateful. Uh yeah, I'm like.. boiling with fury.  "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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PurpleKnight said: [color=mediumpurple:644911490f]Well, it's only your opinion that it's crap. Rolling Stone gave it ****, and most reviews from ppl here have been really positive. So it's not like everyone has completely canned it like with NPS.[/color] That means nothing. When Prince gets a bad review, you guys get all huffy and puffy, calling the reviewer a tone-deaf know-nothing, but when they write something positive, all of a sudden they're on point. Let's see what the public thinks about it. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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i can't imagine evil white male digging raspberry beret, or let's go crazy. he is a bad boy, i only imagien him digging korn and slipknot. Do you really like Prince old material? Prince is kinda gay for you macho man, all those flamboyant's sounds and high voice. tell me some prince songs that you like? |
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Cloudbuster said: Aerogram said: So glad to have that on the record. The only reason why Musicology wouldn't chart high is artificial -- the fact he's giving it away at concerts. It's a gamble, and it could either work or hurt his chances ON the charts. In terms of copies distributed, he'll be a winner. If it charts well in spite/due to this the distribution at concerts, then he'll be writing a new chapter in pop history. And this year, everything he has planned has turned out to be a commercial or critical success. We'll see soon enough. Quit trippin', man.
Of course I want the album to do well. Why would I not want a favourite artist of mine to be getting recognition for their talent. I simply ain't getting my hopes up too much. For nearly every album he's released in the last 10 years he's supposedly been on the verge of a commercial comeback. Emancipation got a lot of glowing reviews and Prince did a hefty amount of promotion but it still didn't do a great deal of business. I think Musicology as a lead off single is huge gamble in itself. It doesn't have that classic Prince sound that will remind people of his former glories nor does it sound like anything new/fresh. Personally, I think he needs a couple of really strong singles to garner huge interest in the album. And that might not happen. I'm just being cautious so as not to feel let down if it all falls flat. Or are you just pulling my plonker and roleplaying as a crazy fam? 
c edit. [This message was edited Wed Apr 7 4:36:16 2004 by Cloudbuster] I'm not pulling anything. It just seems to me that the naysayer crowd is as tiring a congregation of super-fam with their outlandish certainties and a definite lack of intellectual honesty. Prince is "back", commercially and critically. Whether you like Musicology or not is irrelevant. Naysaying was always mostly about Prince being taken "seriously" and having a degree of respect in the industry. This year, he has both -- it's difficult to deny. The ultimate confirmation would come with a decently charting album, though the tour's success and the critical acclaim should already be enough, especially when you factor his decision to distribute the cd at concerts. I don't even "love" Musicology the album -- I mostly enjoy it. This is more a question of status in the industry, and I think the answer is already clear. | |
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