Cloudbuster said:

That's very grown-up of you...just because someone doesn't agree with your own distorted views...

You should get over yourself.

laylow03 said:

I don't see how my views are distorted but not to worry. You said you'd still love me in the morning so it's all good.

laylow03 said:

Excuse the fuck me I aint lost my mind and if you read the rest of the posts you will understand why ,I clearly stated that my INITIAL impression was that he was a clone,I was fuckin 5 ,after I had been set straight that Prince was his own person by my dad I fully understood it was just a childish thing like my dads bigger than yours. I hope you will also forgive me this but I believed in Santa and Easter Bunny.

Thriller is a great album (the last good MJ album), but it was released in 1982 as has been pointed out. So compare it to 1999 that was released in '82 as well. They are both great albums...1999 is better of course, but Thriller still holds up.

O.K., all is cool, folks!

WildStyle said:

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I will say I doubt it that MJ has as much unreleased songs as Prince regardless if he writes alot or not. Because if he did it seems like he would have a long rare/bootleg list like Prince, the Beatles and others who are the most bootlegged. Prince has alot of outtake sets out there with many songs that he recorded and are unreleased. I've never seen anything on MJ except his official songs.

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Cloudbuster said:

No you just accept it ace. Michael is an entertainer, not a musician. If he can play show some pictures or something to prove us wrong. I ain't never seen nothinbut him at the piano once. Prove it.

Cloudbuster said:

No pictures. I knew it. That's all you can say.

I'll accept that ace.

TurnItUp said:

Thriller LOL....

ok maybe i was harsh insaying there are duds on purple rain but the weakest tracks on there are probably baby im a star i would die 4 u take me with u
these are hardly classics in any sense especially the repititive i would die for u
compare those tracks to purple rain when doves cry lets go crazy theres no comparison
also the videos from purple rain hardly compare to thrillers
and about michaels dancing cmon how many times will prince contine to do that split and back on his feet thing thats been done by dozens of other entetainers its tiring now
question was the song erotic city made before purple rain if so then god only knows why this track didnt make it onto purple rain its strange why lots of prince b sides are better then his album tracks
and about the girl is mine well this song wasnt meant to be groundbreaking in anyway quincy wanted a duet for mj and paul so mike went away and write the girl is mine its a cute song and was the first single from thriller it was meant to introduce the album and by the way it got to number 2 on the billboard charts not bad for a cheesy track huh as someone said earlier

if u look at the credits of some his albums one is i think blood on the dancefloor michael is listed as playing guitar and elsewhere piano
im not sure about other instruments but i know he can imitate dozens of instruments with his voice this is how he makes his songs and according to people who have been in the studio with him its an incredible thing to see up close a living walking talking home studio
for example when he did the demo for billie jean he needed a guitar and bass part so he called up some musicians to come round his house and he told the musicians what he wanted to hear by imitaing the instrument to the musician then the musician would play until it sounded like way michael just imitated to him this dont sound like just an entetainer to me this sounds like a musician its different to prince who plays the instruments but michael can imitate the sounds with his voice so they are both musicians who just do it differently

TurnItUp said:

Well there are a few unreleased MJ tracks that have escaped to the internet. I think it's just a case of MJ keeping a tighter reighn around his tracks. MJ has said that he records nearly 100 songs per album and then cyphers them down. He said with Invincible it was even more then 100.

For the people saying they could make 15 Prince CD's of nothing but good material and only one MJ CD of good material: MJ fans would say exactly the opposite. It's really just a matter of personal preferance.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 7 21:06:26 2004 by WildStyle]

Wasn't Erotic City made during the spring/summer of 84 ?

id say for sure prince has more unreleased tracks then michael the difference is the doors to the paisley park vaults seem very loose with hundreds of unreleased spewing from there unlike mjs vaults which are probably padlocked and guarded by security guards finding an unreleased mj song is like strking gold for mj fans recent example is the track xcscape which surfaced last year mysteriously and the net was abuzz for weeks afterwards on the mj boards
especially since it was a great song and a obvious outtake from invincible i myself wondered why it wasnt on the official album in place of maybe invincible or unbreakable

riverdean7 said:

I think the two tracks you mentioned are both great,they have probablys suffered from being overplayed but then again if I hear Billie Jean Beat It or Thriller I would turn them straight off dont mean there shit just I'm bored with them,I dont think theres any filler on Purple Rain.

As for the dancing mentioned elsewhere ,Prince IMO just moves better in general without splits or mic tricks MJ often just slips into his trademark moves and looks absoloutly shit dancing with women theres no sexuality in his dancing wotsoeva ,as for Prince well need I.

prince a better mover u gotta be joking he has 2 left feet compared to mj michael has been heralded by fred astaire and gene kelly as being a great mover and dancer and they are probably considered the best dancers of all time who has praised princes dancing other then diehard prince fans the answer noone
u prince disciples are gettin tired now hatin on the king of pop

riverdean7 said:

Dont hate MJ ,but you truthfully gotta say that he looks outta place dancing with women.By the way I read many times that MJ was envious of Princes dancing

richierich said:

I would also like to add that a probable reason for the praises from fred and gene were because they were asked about it with MJ being the most commerical artist of the day were they asked about prince. I actually think MJ was a better dancer as a boy and got worse ,Im afraid BAD in my eyes now is laughable MJ acting like he's nasty and all just makes me cringe.
As for Prince's 2 left feet If you think he's that shit why do you bother on his site makes no real sense I wouldnt be on MJ site.

read many times that mj was envious of princes dancing say what?????
are u that desperate just to make shit up ive been a mj fan for over 20 years and never heard of him praising princes dancing
and by the way richierich your wrong again they werent asked by anyone gene and fred actually called mj to praise michael themeselves fred did it immediately after motown 25 cause he was so impressed with michaels performance later gene did the same then later on they had dinner and became fast friends
jeez u prince fans are getting desperate now makin shit up just to kid yourself that prince has anything on mj

I think wot your failing to understand is that I would imagine that the same peeps would have probably thought Prince was a good mover but as he isnt as commercial then perhaps they didnt see him. I have read of MJ being envious of Princes dancing though generaly in Prince books and on this site so perhaps biased opinions.
We aint gunna agree coz you like MJ much better than P and vice-versa.It aint gunna make any difference to me if the whole world told me MJ is better coz I just love Prince and think MJ is OK nowadays,I dont really even think of them in the same terms.

richierich said:

Not from what i've seen in the Smooth Criminal, In The Closet and Blood On The Dance Floor videos. Michael looks comfortable doing ANY sort of dancing.

And I don't know were you read that about MJ

richierich said:

Not true. Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly bth called Michael DIRECTLY and told him how good a dancer they thought he was. Gene Kelly was later interviewed for an MJ documentary were he again praised MJ's dancing. Comparing Prince's dancing to MJ's is ludicrous and could only happen at a Prince board.

All MJ could do when he was a kid was James Brown and Jackie Wilson moves. He became a much better dancer in his teens and even better later on when he developed his own style.

riverdean7 said:

Right on.

Btw, the following is something taken off www.mjstar.com, and is the opinion of Director Gary Winick, who is helming the movie "13 Going on 30", whicjh stars Jennifer Garner who will have a scene in the movie involving MJ's Thriller. "As Michael Jackson's situation got worse and worse, we wondered if it would impact the scene in the movie, but we ultimately decided it wouldn't," "The music is bigger than his life situation."
Indeed, I doubt Purple Rain (as good as it is as an album, and perhaps movie, for some) would get the same treatment or honours. It is really timeless music, and the dancing in the vid was astonishing. You see, at one point Michael was teaching the choreographer how it was meant to be done. Only ppl who hate Micheal Jackon for whatever reason, be it the countless plastic surgery or anything else, would be critical with anything to do with Thriller. At the very least, you can hardly be critical of the three hits of the albums- BJ, Thriller and Beat It. For me, those three trash almost everything off Purple Rain. For me, the definite P album was TGE, and certainly not Lovesexy or anything else, but that is ofcourse a matter of opinion and taste...i do realise this. I am certainly not saying that Purple Rain is crap, because I do adore the song itself and some of the others on the ablum. Having said all this, I do prefer P because of the amount of music he's released and the fact that I never had to wait YEARS for it to come. Also because he performed live much more and could "jam" just about on every instrument that I love/d, such as the guitar!! At the same time, there is no way in hell, I am overlooking the sheer genius of Michael Jackson, his dancing, and in particular, Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad, and his super live performaces which have always been fine tuned to perfection.

As for some1 saying on here that P's was never as commercial as Michael. and therefore many didn't get to see how brilliant his dancing was....well....firstly, P was quite commercial and certainly commercial enough for people 2 see what his dancing was like, and for me at least, it wasn't as appealing because it just wasn't as good. He could do some incredible stuff, but for me he was at his best when he was jamming on the guitar. Oh, and after "Cream", he came out with the total shite of a song and vid (for me again) called SexyMF. He destroyed his own commercial success. Not that any of this mattered to me that much at the time or even now, since I really did liked both of them.

Ok, orgers, now rip in with ur'e own comments:)

I refer to "Cream" in the land of Oz, as it totally slaughtered the radio stations here at the time- think it was 1994? Any fellow aussies here remember which year it was xactly?

i agree prince is at his best with a guitar hanging round his neck or playing the dozens of other instruments he can play but leave the dancing to mj
and yeah i agree check out the mating dance with naomi and mj in the in the closet video that was hot

riverdean7 said:

Oh yeah, In The Closet is hot stuff 4sure....and some1 here said that he doesn't look "right" dancing with women....what a load of rubbish.....he doesn't resort even once to "Moonwalking" in the vid and certainly some of the best dancing and choreography u can get. If he seem to be doing the same moves for some, then perhaps they haven't followed his career (vidz or performances) as closely as I have.