oops, Laura...

You think I DON'T work in this Business?

And Alfred Liggins' comment was from 2002....that's 2 years ago

It's quite simple folks, the radio stations don't play what you want to hear. TURN OFF THE DAMN RADIO!! In your car, at home, and at work. Play cd's, mp3's, satelite radio, or whatever floats your boat or finds your lost remote (As Andre 3000 so eloquently puts it!) When they've lost enough revenue, they'll take the listeners listening pleasure more seriously and stop force feeding our ears with the crap they have the nerve to classify as entertainment.

Personally, I'm glad Prince doen't fit their format, I'd really be pissed to hear any Prince song played after that "Milkshake song". Those that know the song know what I mean, the rest of you, just be glad you don't know.

Well I am not surprised. Urban radio sucks so bad I rarely listen to it anymore. Urban radio stations and DJ's sold thier souls many years ago. I have never thought I was going to hear 'Musicology' on the radio. I personally love the song but hey this is Urban radio. If it ain't hip hop or singing about cheating and bling bling forget about it.
Peace

fuck that dude and their so called 'power' 92 in the face!

i'd like to fit that clown on my floormat.

Welcome to the world Clear Channel created!! These guys have completly destroyed radio. Everything has to be compartmentalised and put into nice, consumer friendly packages. Heaven forbid you should take a chance and play something outside of the boundries set by a corporation. This is why there are no new trends occurring in music anymore. Innovators are shut out, because they don't fit a category for the programmers. Truly sad.

Radio stations definitely get paid to play. Radio stations playing a record over and over has a lot of influence on a listener. Have you ever heard a song so much that you hate but eventually you start humming it and it is in your head and you would go as far as to blow your brains out to get it off your mind? That's why I abstain from radio especially top 40 radio. There is so much good music out there that never gets played because of lack of bribe money for radio stations. Radio and music tv will have you believing Beyonce Usher and Britney Spears are the only options you have. More people should start demanding real music instead of settling for the normal run of the mill subpar music.

KatSkrizzle said:

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And something has a occured in the last two years that has changed things.
Just a month ago I read about a pending case concerning Sony and some company that was not paid for double swiping CDs to increse the sound scan numbers.

If your in the industry be honest and admit how crooked it is.

Y'all are definitley on point about the radio stations only playing the same 3 artists over and over and over...

Then again, all black radio isn't that bad though. In my city, we have two. One caters to the younger set, and I would NEVER, EVER, expect to hear prince on there. The other one caters to the older set (like me), and they have played his song (haven't heard it yet though myself) and still have played a lot of his older stuff. So if you have alternatives in your city, it's probably a good bet that they will feature his new stuff.

you made this up didnt you? this sounds totally fake!

Wow now I understand why I don't listen to the Radio.

The only time I ever hear the radio is when I'm riding with other people which is very seldom. After reading this post I went to all the DFW radio sites I can think of and none of them list Prince in the playlist or mentions the concert.

Geez thank goodness for the internet because I would be sooo outta the loop when it comes to Prince if I depended on the radio.

Much Love,
LoLinex

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Believe me, I wish it was fake. I can still hear the DJ saying to me with a cocky-assed tone, "Because it's Prince," with the emphasis on the word "Prince" as if it was the equivalent of "Vanilla Ice."

If you still don't believe me, call him up yourself. The DJ's name is Brandon, and he is on "Power 92" weeknights from 6pm-11pm central time. Here is the phone number-- (866)686-9292. Here is the web address, with a link to his e-mail: http://www.power92.net/92...lities.asp
[This message was edited Thu Apr 1 8:47:36 2004 by crenshaw]

laurarichardson said:

I never said it was upright. I guess everyone ignored Warner forking out cash to play prince all over radio in the 80's. It's not ALL about cash. But I won't hesitate to say that a lot of it is. But let's be real here...I mean let me say this alllll over again. everything is driven by the kids' and womens' numbers. It's a game, folks. I'm just recognizing what cycle we are in. Purist and anti corporate is silly. You can't avoid it. Prince sucked it up and went corporate with the tour and his album. Let's seeee, 20,000 albums sold indi vs going to Sony/Columbia for mass sales.

And will someone explain to Prince how WACK Eve is/was? I'm still mad at that lame remix. (arista did that, maybe? They must've given her a fat artist fee)

But....indi is the way to go, if you want more money per unit. Let me bring him into conversation....don't scream... Lil Jon worked it out for nearly a decade independant and now he's platinum. I have a lot of respect for Lil Jon because that team worked damn HARD. You think that "crap" just came out the blue? Lil Flip? What? He didn't need a major label to put out his project, his team was already selling numbers.

It's all bullshhh at the end of the day anyway. Just cut me a check.

But...we still must cry....Damn....am I turning into a Republican?

radici27 said:

Hold up, Usher has a quality album out right now. He damn sure ain't the problem with radio. Pick someone else to use as an example. Justin or even Janet at this point would be a good place to start.

in fairness to the DJ, he has absolutely no say in what's being played on that station.


i'm from the Peoria area (or at least an area that gets some Peoria radio), and i know exactly the station you're talking about. i like that station, simply for the fact that for so many years, the central IL area didn't have ANY really current contemporary stations.

of course i'm over that now, but i still like that the station exists, because it work the Peoria and Bloomington markets up to the fact that people there actually wanted to hear hit music that the rest of the country was getting -- we were stuck with a lot of country and adult contemporary and light top 40 fare prior to that.


but anyway, back to the point. that DJ has no input as to what goes on the air there. in fact, i'll go out on a limb and say that nobody at that station even has a say as to what, musically, goes out over the air there. and i'm not just saying that because that's how radio is these days, but that station specifically broadcasts exactly the same playlist at the same time as several other Illinois stations. there's one in Bloomington, there's one in Decatur, there's one in Mattoon, and a few other medium-sized cities up and down Illinois. my previous job took me to the four corners of Illinois frequently, and the times i'd listen to radio, i could travel from the peoria area almost all the way to Kentucky and pick up one of those stations. they're all owned by the same company and simulcast the same playlist, with only the commercial inserts and station ID's being different (and, to give them credit, they do at least each have their own DJ's to fill in between songs, so there IS a local aspect to it, even if it's not in the music itself).

and no... Prince doesn't really fit their format. then again, neither did Santana and they were all over that shit in 1999/2000, so there's a possibility that Musicology will end up on the air on that station.

...unless someone can get to Frank Ski and Ryan Cameron's producers....
lol

Sueme said:

I was gonna post exactly what codshort said, but, Sueme, the songs that have guitar on it in rap and R&B ONLY have it as a definitely quite background instrument. That, or just a short strum here and there (e.g. Pharrell's "Frontin').


The "really-need-to-proofread-my-post-before-clicking" edit...
[This message was edited Thu Apr 1 12:08:00 2004 by xpsiter]

Welcome to the world of segregated radio.

As much as the USA likes to think of its the 'melting point' for people of all backgrounds the segregation is ridiculous.

If i want to listen to Busta Rhymes, some Led Zep and maybe some James Brown I cant get it on one station, most stations seem to seperate their music by color.

What? White people dont listen to black music and vice versa?


What a sad situation.

jagshrapnel said:

Music that is played on the radio today sucks! I live in the NY tri-stae area and it's so bad. We get two of everything out here and it seems like each station has the program director. The new Prince is getting some play. So far, not too much at all.

jagshrapnel said:

Music that is played on the radio today sucks! I live in the NY tri-stae area and it's so bad. We get two of everything out here and it seems like each station has the program director. The new Prince is getting some play. So far, not too much at all.

i dont think i have heard a rap song on the radio in the last month that does not have Lil John screamin YEEEAH!! in the background.....

intha916 said:

Hold up!! Are you implying Usher's new album is GOOD??!!! That's simply your opinion! I've heard it, and it's basically a rehash of his other, older shit, and not even a good rehash at that. I still ain't diggin' that he did a blatant RIP OFF of "The Beautiful Ones". Someone wake me when being #1 on the charts correlate to being anywhere close to #1 in the talent dept. too!!!

Prince is an old man. They don't play James Brown or Chuck Berry much on that station either, I bet. Popular music (radio stuff) is about youth and new artists....not old guys like Prince.

jagshrapnel said:

It is sad to you, but not to most people. Why do you think radio stations program their stations the way they do? It is to make money. They are businesses. If stations that mixed Busta Rhymes, Led Zep, and James Brown got ratings and made money, then there would be lots of stations like this. But there aren't because the public doesn't want this. Don't be so egocentric and look at the big picture. I agree that radio sucks, but that only means that it sucks for me. For all the millions of people who like it, it is great or at least good enough to listen to and support.

bigonez said:

YEAH!

YEAH!

MORE YEAH!

IT MAKE POOK MISS THE SUBTLE UH HUH OF PUFFY

check my posts above, while this thread goes on about R&B stations not playing prince, Musicology is by far the hottest new song on R&B radio right now.

thedog said:

RupertZ said:

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You know what back in the 60's when FM got started you did have a mixed format. Once Corporate American came along and started buying up stations you started to see a segregated format. Millions of people are buying XM radio and no one belived people would pay for radio but millions are because they want diversity.

If some genius would starte a mixed format maybe we could find out if it worked.

laurarichardson said:

It has been tried...and it has failed many times until people realized that it was a dumb idea (if you are trying to get ratings and make money)

As far as XM radio, they have something like 1.3 million subscribers. The population of the USA is about 300 million. You do the math.

And again, yes corporate America bought the stations and programmed them in the segreated manner, but they did this becaue it works. Corporate America is in the business of making money and they program the stations to maximize their profits, which is giving most people what they want.

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[This message was edited Thu Apr 1 13:06:33 2004 by RupertZ]