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Reply #30 posted 04/01/04 3:30am

CinisterCee

John Blackwell is the tightest drummer.

Renato's sound I find a bit corny! But that's just personal preference (he obviously has the chops).

Rhonda is dope on the bass.

I love the brass section, but other than Maceo Parker and Candy Dulfer, who the hell is in there?
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Reply #31 posted 04/01/04 5:57am

alexnvrmnd

okaypimpn said:

alexnvrmnd said:


I curse cuz that's the why I talk at times. And in NO way does John "crush" Sheila on the drums! I'm sure even he would tell you that! Ske kills them drums AND sings backup at the same time (among other talents). Let's see ol' Johnny boy do that (again, taking away nothing from him, as he's probably my second fav Prince drummer). LOL! Also, look at the horn sections...Atlanta and Eric KILLS any combo Prince has had since Lovesexy, and this definitely includes Candy, Greg, Maceo (yes, Maceo), Mike Phillips, Najee, Hornheads (less is more, ya know), etc.... The main thing that keeps the Lovesexy band on top was the ability to hold onto that groove (Revolution was damn good at this too; prolly the best).

I'm sorry...as of right now, there is just NO comparison. The SOTT/Lovesexy band were just superbad! Too cool for this yet-another-reincarnation of the NPG. But, I'll give them time and see how they grow/progress.


YES! worship If you need another sax player, I'd also throw Eddie M. in there, too. wink

Fo' real!! LOL! Though, I really didn't mind Eddie M. (he had that "crazy sax" thing going, too) at ALL, I still like just the duo of Eric and Atlanta.
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Reply #32 posted 04/01/04 3:53pm

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But Mike Phillips' circular-breathing wankery should be quickly removed from the proceedings, 'cause to real musicians that shit's a joke.


Hmmm. Real musicians like Courtney Pine? Good one.


Notice I said "wankery." Courtney Pine and others (and Coltrane before him) use(d) circular breathing in a musical fashion, to play incredibly long phrases at difficult tempos. Not to hold one note while going from one end of the stage to the next pandering for applause. Big difference. The technique itself is not bullshit, no technique is. I'm criticizing the application.


this is why i really liked the one nite alone tour - pure musicianship without all the pandering to the crowd.
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Reply #33 posted 04/01/04 4:04pm

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comeon said:

TedW said:



Notice I said "wankery." Courtney Pine and others (and Coltrane before him) use(d) circular breathing in a musical fashion, to play incredibly long phrases at difficult tempos. Not to hold one note while going from one end of the stage to the next pandering for applause. Big difference. The technique itself is not bullshit, no technique is. I'm criticizing the application.


this is why i really liked the one nite alone tour - pure musicianship without all the pandering to the crowd.

yep plus i would have to hear these horn players play that riff from RockHardInAFunkyPlace/ICouldNeverTakeThePlaceOfYourMan from Sott movie. I would also like to hear them play the version of it's gonna be a beautiful night from the Sott movie. Cuz to me the hornz from that era has it hands down!
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Reply #34 posted 04/01/04 4:37pm

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Johnny BWell doesn't have to take a backseat to any drummer Prince has ever had.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #35 posted 04/01/04 4:46pm

namepeace

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Um, no. His best band has always been the SOTT/Lovesexy band. Bar none. They were so fuckin' tight...WAAYYY better than this band. They have potential to grow and be better, and they're not bad at all right now by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't see them becoming anything that the Lovesexy band was!!



TedW said:
The current band is great -- as a back-up band -- but they don't appear to hold the same place in his musical life as collaborators that the Revolution did. And actually, when we talk of collaboration, we're really speaking about Wendy and Lisa.


LovesexyIsThe1 said:
There is a huge lack of chemistry among these players... they are tight as hell, but they are simply a backing band. He wants the best, he assembled some great musicians, but other than playing live... what are their contributions to his music?


I'd say no, this band is not the best, not by a sight. With the Revolution and the "Counter-Revolution," Prince seemed to take on the personality of his outfit, and vice versa. That's why they were so tight.

I agree with all of the comments above.

This current version of the NPG seems to have no stage presence at all. But they are extraordinarily accomplished musicians, but backup musicians nonetheless. Whereas everybody in the 80's outfits -- and even the early to mid-90's NPG -- seemed to have a discernible identity.

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Reply #36 posted 04/01/04 6:17pm

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adorable2 said:

comeon said:



this is why i really liked the one nite alone tour - pure musicianship without all the pandering to the crowd.

yep plus i would have to hear these horn players play that riff from RockHardInAFunkyPlace/ICouldNeverTakeThePlaceOfYourMan from Sott movie. I would also like to hear them play the version of it's gonna be a beautiful night from the Sott movie. Cuz to me the hornz from that era has it hands down!


That would be a good acid test. That figure is difficult to swing at a slow tempo (like the ICNTTPOYM breakdown), but Eric and Atlanta passed with honors.

This tour is great (kiss my ass, you naysayers who were like "I don't wanna hear those hits again -- I'm not going!" Bet you all got tickets now), and it additionally puts the ONA tour in wonderful perspective. In the span of a couple years, we got a great "musos" tour with fan favorites, just standing there killing, and a bigger, full-on hits-oriented run with dancing and such. Not a bad coupla of years.
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Reply #37 posted 04/01/04 7:15pm

thebugman6

Well I'm not going to write a book, I'll just give it to you straight!
This band is probably the most talented, even Prince himself would say
so and has. However, I would rather see the revolution every day of the
week and twice on Sunday! They had personality!!! This band looks like hired guns.
(AND YES! I STILL LIVE IN THE PAST) I'm wearing my British Knights as we speak!
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