Prince is # 29 in Rolling Stone magazine's cover story about "The Immortals: The Fifty Greatest Artists of All Time".

The story is laid out so other artists write about theese fifty names and it's Amir Thompson (?uestlove) that's writin' about Prince.

The first spots are as expected reserved for The Beatles, Elivs and The Rolling Stones. Other names inlclude: Michael Jackson #35 (by Anthony La Reid), David Bowie #39(by Lou Reed), Sly And The Family Stone #43 (by Don Was), Public Enemy #44 (by Adam Yauch) and Run-D.M.C #48 (by Chuck D)

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/David, Sweden

lets do this...ill post the two oft repeated statements and then we can lock this thread up and save net space, k?




Comment Number 1) Gosh!! How come people just cant realize the genious that is Prince..He deserves to be way higher then [insert artist here]. Rolling Stone is stupid!!! Its the same people that put the Olsen Twins on the cover..Completly out of touch..

and then

Comment Number 2) Its just a list people..calm down!! Its only an opinion and you know what? Prince doesnt deserve to be higher....Cause he isnt as talented as [insert artist here]

hes actually at no 28 woohooo

EVERY music magazine seems to do this kind of thing @LEAST once a year;it's old!

Throw in the obivious: The Beatles, Stones, Dylan, etc.

Throw in some intentionally stupid picks to create controversy;

Throw in some current acts so not to alienate your young readers (although those picks will seem downright stupid in 5-10 years;

Throw in some little heard acts to sound hip & "switched on"



The only opinion that matters is your own.
These lists are created to just give magazine writers something to do because the mags lack real writing. And sales from those who cant form tastes of their own.

Cheers!

10 ahaed of john Lennon and one behind Nirvana thats wrong in so many ways

The Immortals are the greatest rock & roll artists of all time. They are also more than that. The fifty men, women and bands celebrated in the following pages (and in an exclusive photo gallery) are the singers, songwriters, record makers and performers who are continually in the music -- as pioneers, teachers and stars; touching our souls and pulling us to our feet, on a daily basis -- even when they are no longer with us.

1) The Beatles by Elvis Costello


2) Bob Dylan by Robbie Robertson


3) Elvis Presley by Bono


4) The Rolling Stones by Steven Van Zandt


5) Chuck Berry by Joe Perry


6) Jimi Hendrix by John Mayer


7) James Brown by Rick Rubin


8) Little Richard by Little Richard


9) Aretha Franklin by Jerry Wexler


10) Ray Charles by Van Morrison


11) Bob Marley by Wyclef Jean

12) The Beach Boys by Lindsey Buckingham

13) Buddy Holly by John Mellencamp

14) Led Zeppelin by David Grohl

15) Stevie Wonder by Elton John

16) Sam Cooke by Art Garfunkel

17) Muddy Watters by Billy Gibbons

18) Marvin Gaye by Smokey Robinson

19) The Velvet Underground by Julian Casablancas

20) Bo Diddley by Iggy Pop

21) Otis Redding by Steve Cropper

22) U2 by Chris Martin

23) Bruce Springsteen by Jackson Browne

24) Jerry Lee Lewis by Moby

25) Fats Domino by Dr. John

26) The Ramones by Lenny Kaye

27) Nirvana by Vernon Reid

28) Prince by Ahmir Thompson

29) The Who by Eddie Vedder

30) The Clash by The Edge

31) Johnny Cash by Kris Kristofferson

32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles by Bob Seger

33) The Everly Brothers by Paul Simon

34) Neil Young by Flea

35) Michael Jackson by Antonio "LA" Reid

36) Madonna by Britney Spears

37)Roy Orbison by K.D. Lang

38) John Lennon by Lenny Kravitz

39) David Bowie by Lou Reed

40) Simon and Garfunkel by James Taylor

41) The Doors by Marilyn Manson

42) Van Morrison by Peter Wolf

43) Sly and the Family Stone by Don Was

44) Public Enemy by Adam Yauch

45) The Byrds by Tom Petty

46) Janis Joplin by Rosanne Cash

47) Patti Smith by Shirley Manson

48) Run-DMC by Chuck D

49) Elton John by Billy Joel

50) The Band by Lucinda Williams

I'm surprised that they even acknowledged Prince. They always seem to not give him the respect he deserves musically. He should have been higher if ya ask me. Rolling Stone Magazine is nothing but a piece of crap now. I use to like it back when real musicians were on the covers.

NPGFlav said:

I am never surprised by these majority white owned magz always rank the the beatles,elvis,and the RS as the top 3 of whatever pole that is taken. They should never be ranked higher than Little Richard , Chuck Berry or James Brown because they were influenced by these black artist. They should be in the top 10 but the first 3 spots is just disrespectful! Rollingstone saya that the poll was answered by these musicians peers but i seriously doubt it! Prince should be way ahead of nirvana and probably ranked in the late teens.

ELBOOGY said:

And where in the hell is George Clinton/Parliment Funkadelic who would blow the Rolling Stones of the stage!!!!!

its hard for me to think of 28 artist being better than prince, and as for nirvana being ahead of prince, thats just a joke, an absolute joke

36) Madonna by Britney Spears





Hmmmm,,,,

radici27 said:

Same feeling here, he's easily worthy of a spot in the top 10.

sosgemini said:

The people that run 'Rolling Stone' must be part of the MTV click. The have lost touch with what real artist and 'rock and roll' is all about. If anybody remembers not too long ago 'Rolling Stone' came out with a list of the 'greatest guitar players of all time and I dont believe 'Prince' was even on the list. How can you leave this guy off of any guitar list when you look at the top players in music in the last 20 to 30 years?

SunDance said:

I have no problem with that at all!!

cool!

funny he makes this but not there 100 best guitar players

These list are bogus at best. I form my own opinions don't need nobody telling me who's great and who ain't. Prince is better than most on the list. And no Parliament/Funkadelic, Supremes, Temptations, EWF...PLEEASSE!!

how cool!

Fans when Rolling Stone bag/don't acknowledge their favourite artists:

"Pfft. Rolling Stone don't mean nothing to no-one anymore."

Fans when Rolling Stone praises/acknowledges their favourite artists:

"Wow! Rolling Stone! How prestigious. Proof of the greatness of [artist name]."

this inconsistency pops up in discussions every time rolling stone have the arrogance to do a "greatest guitarists/albums/songs/singles of all time" list.

[color=darkred:fcc6f6cf0e]i am glad that he is [/i][/b][/color]AT [color=darkred:f071342a3b]least acknowledged . i am that he has made the list even at that high of a number. those artists have made names for themselves for all different reasons, so i am glad that he is on the countdown. that is great. he beat michael jackson and that is a zillion times better than not beating Jacko.[/color]
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I got my copy from Barnes and Noble yesterday!!

/David, Sweden[/quote]I am never surprised by these majority white owned magz always rank the the beatles,elvis,and the RS as the top 3 of whatever pole that is taken. They should never be ranked higher than Little Richard , Chuck Berry or James Brown because they were influenced by these black artist. They should be in the top 10 but the first 3 spots is just disrespectful! Rollingstone saya that the poll was answered by these musicians peers but i seriously doubt it! Prince should be way ahead of nirvana and probably ranked in the late teens.[/quote]

Take it for what it's worth. It's their opinion. Sure they try to act like it's based in some kind of fact but it's not. When you get your own magazine you can proclaim the true great ones.

ELBOOGY said:

How freaky...right when I read that list, I thought the exact same thing. So So true. These list never mean anything.

Two ideas come to mind when reading this list

1.) I like Nirvana but if the guy did not blow his head off ( probalbly because of that witch of a wife he had)they would be doing the same thing as most of those Seattle bands( name one) which is (you fill this in). Guns + Roses had as much influence in as much time, let Axel Rose blow his head of and think what would have happened.

2.) Not only is Prince to low but I rarely support M.J. and Maddona but compared to some of those artists they need there rank to be boosted also.
Ah it never fails though, Springstein is ahead of everyone. The glorified John Cougar Mellencamp. Who by the way is much better.

Power Fantastic

I dont think you really really can rate artists. Do you? I mean they all have their strengths and their weaknesses. I love the Beatles, but they definatly could not dance like JAmes Brown or Michale Jackson, and I dont think anyone could play instruments like Prince. I dont know... Just a thought. What do you think?

I think it's a friggin joke that people actually refer to these kind of lists as "white lists" then bitch about not having guys like James Brown near the top. Just what exactly are you trying to prove here? That your "black lists" mean more than the "white lists" out there? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

I guarentee 99% of all of you out there that rag on the Beatles as being overrated have never heard jack from them and just assume that "I wanna hold your hand" is the style of everything they've created.

No band in history had the kind of influence on culture, music, music engineering, recording, and style than the Beatles. No band had more of a change in music direction than the Beatles. They were around the US for just 7 years, people...and toured for only 3 years in the US.

Yes, part of the personna is overlyhyped because of the massive influx of teenage obsession with them, however, they deserve every single accolade they get. The fact that they played all the instruments, wrote all musical composition, and all lyrics says something. (yes, I know Prince does that too)

I am a huge prince fan, but let's be serious, he never had close to the effect and influence on music as people like the Beatles or Elvis Presley or Bob Dylan....and even though Elvis didn't right much, it still doesn't take away from him creating the style of music that was created, cause he was responsible for that. If some of you that bashed them had any idea about the history of music, you'd know that nearly all Motown acts didn't right there own music. James Brown didn't right alot of his stuff either folks. I'm positive you don't know that Stevie Wonder is a huge Bob Dylan fan. Prince loves Joni Mitchell, who is from the Bob Dylan mold also. See where this is going? It's called influence.

as for Nirvana. It's not for everyone, but they were something that took me out of the same hole that alot of people were in when music was really stale. Few bands accounted for such a dramatic change in popular music than they did.

You can all hang out in your own little world and keep your close minded ideals. The true music fans out there will give anything a chance and not discredit something they know nothing about. Prince is incredible, but when it comes to music, you cannot take your opinions seriously unless you've experienced all the music with an open mind.

"I am never surprised by these majority white owned magz always rank the the beatles,elvis,and the RS as the top 3 of whatever pole that is taken. They should never be ranked higher than Little Richard , Chuck Berry or James Brown because they were influenced by these black artist. They should be in the top 10 but the first 3 spots is just disrespectful! Rollingstone saya that the poll was answered by these musicians peers but i seriously doubt it! Prince should be way ahead of nirvana and probably ranked in the late teens."

My response to this is: James Brown wasn't popular until after all 3 of them so I don't know how he influenced any of them. Chuck Berry came after Elvis and didn't have nearly the staying power of any of them (no metamorphisis). You may have an argument there for Little Richard though he was out about the same time as Elvis. You can also say Jerry Lee Lewis was about the same as Little Richard on some accounts but I seriously doubt you would give him any credit cause he's white. Little Richard never changed his music at very much so you can't say he had more influence than any of the big 3. I will say this, I have never been a big Rolling Stones fan. I like Prince more than them, but I can't argue with what they did in rock and roll

If you want to get real technical, the Spanish created the present day guitar and influenced black blues artists 60 years ago, so

Funny how conspiracy theories arise when you disagree with something.