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PrintableJuice said: CalhounSq said: Fuck all this race shit - Keenan is SO DAMN FINE!  
No Contest!!! Honey, nobody said it was a contest  I know Prince wins everytime, trust me  & Keenan is STILL fine!
wonders WHY I'm participating in this exchange    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Well my man Funnyway is finer  I'll go down on u all night long..it's Automatic 
U will ?!? 
Yes i will Baby  | |
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Juice said: Well my man Funnyway is finer
Now see, if I'd known you were  I would have never replied  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Juice said: CalhounSq said: Fuck all this race shit - Keenan is SO DAMN FINE!
No Contest!!! Oh...my...God. Fine is not the word...the word is PHOYNE. Though the booty shot in 1999 I think takes this one. Thank u so much for posting that! And it reminds me...I was driving to pick up my homegirl on Monday on the way to the concert. Power 106 (a Clear Channel owned, I think, rap/hip hop station) was playing Prince during it's traffic hours. I missed most of it but when I got in the car and flipped around stations, I heard a tidbit of a beat and KNEW it was Lady Cab Driver. That song was so bomb. We fought to get it played on KDAY, the premier black AM station back in the day...and they nearly always cut it off as soon as the geetar started. So what one person was saying above unfortunately is right. Play some rock guitar and ya wanna be white (cuz we turned away from our own blues...another story 4 another time). But this is why we love P, yes? As for Keenan...ya think the fact he's born on April Fools is why he's such a damn fool (in a good way..."they shootin', they shootin'!")? And finally...a moment for Marvin Gaye, another brilliant artist who was both sexual and spiritual. Thanks for your gifts and I hope you are being blessed. (Another PHOYNE man) | |
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DaIllest said: Don't get that deep, it's all about the music here!!
For me, Prince is and always has been black. I am white, but it's "black music" what I dig, meaning hiphop, soul, funk, jazz, reggae, etc. Prince is black and I want it that way. Ahh, but here's the kicker: rock guitar, feedback and stuff? Mostly white folks. Not cutting out ANYBODY is the key. (As for reggae, P's getting a little better, but methinks he should leave that alone.) And if you don't think music IS the deepest...it's what has kept people alive...it's what unites us all. Think about yourself as a teenager. What got you through (most likely) the drama...especially if the Walkman was around when you were a teenager? There's blood sweat & tears in all of music. And sorry, when you hear Prince playing a blues lick, you're hearing slavery & reconstruction. So much so that it took the likes of The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and the like to embrace blues because black folks shunned it...too painful. And it continues to this day. And the fact that you WANT Prince to be black is probably a top reason he used to lie and say he was mixed...so that everyone would know that he was part of them and that we all basically experience the same things. You can't say don't get that deep and then turn around and say it's "black music" that you dig. Sounds like you're fetishizing it...at worst, rebelling against your immediate society and/or your parents. Go deep...that's where real music comes from. Can't speak for other places, but in America, you'll find that we all are mutts...hue-beings as a friend used to say. And we're fighting that tooth and nail to this day. | |
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richierich said: codshort said: Coloured???? You've got to be kidding man.....read a book, newspaper, watch some TV.....ANYTHING to get you back to the 21st century.....no matter where in the world u are. That term is as tired and lame as the excuses like "white people didn't only cause blacks to be enslaved". Stuff like this is exactly why race relations are no closer to being solved that the day MLK was killed. Not one inch closer in almost a half century.....
On to the Prince & his blackness issue..... I tend to think that the non-stop furor over is music becoming (or returning to being as I see it) more black-oriented, isn't specifically a black vs white issue. It's more of a rock & roll/pop vs funk/soul issue, and unfortunately, just as the majority of America's neighborhoods, its based on the segregated nature of American culture. They have their tastes and preferences, we have ours. Seldom do the two meet. Prince is in a unique position, he's one that few black (or other minority) artists whose appeal spans cultural, racial & socio-economic lines. Herein lies the problem..... some of the white fans see him as the "rock star" from the PR days (you know the kind.....those who swear he won't make another good song until W& L are back playing with him...), and the majority of his black fans see him as the funkster/soul ballader who happens to play guitar. Personally, I thinks he's a bit of both (and more) and I'm down to see wherever his musical interests lead him. Unfortunately, there are too many vocal "so-called" fans, who immediately dismiss anything he does unless it has a blaring guitar in it. Now whether their hatred of his black-based music is founded in racism, is something that they (and God) will have to work out in their hearts. Meanwhile, I'll keep enjoying the musical journey of Prince.....and let them enjoy their 20 year old PR and W&L albums..... Sorry I didnt seem to put my reply on b4. Was just goin to say that I dont think that prefering Purple Rain over TRC for example is racist well it aint for me ,its just that I think many prefer his 80s music. I was also going to say that I viewed guitar of black origin anyway with the likes of Chuck Berry,Albert King ,Robert Johnson,Bo Diddly,Buddy Guy,Muddy Waters and so on being the biggest influence on the most well known white guitarists .But The Boostress has shed a little light perhaps on why guitar music is not regaurded as black music,interesting I was quite unaware that black folk had shunned it ,you learn something everyday. | |
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codshort said: Personally, I thinks he's a bit of both (and more) and I'm down to see wherever his musical interests lead him. Unfortunately, there are too many vocal "so-called" fans, who immediately dismiss anything he does unless it has a blaring guitar in it. Now whether their hatred of his black-based music is founded in racism, is something that they (and God) will have to work out in their hearts. Meanwhile, I'll keep enjoying the musical journey of Prince.....and let them enjoy their 20 year old PR and W&L albums.....
I can't speak for fans who prefer Prince's guitar-driven music or "dismiss" music without blaring guitars, but i'd be flabbergasted if that preference was founded in racism. That would just seem to be sooooo far wide of the mark. Person might be racist, true - so might a guy or gal that digs funk, or jazz. | |
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I don’t give a good god d*mn what color Prince is. He could be green for all I care..... Kirk: "KHAAANNNN! KHAAANNNN!" | |
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bigonez said: I don’t give a good god d*mn what color Prince is. He could be green for all I care.....
I dont know about that buddy ,may have concerns about his health | |
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I believe that the confusion over Prince's race comes from two sources. First off, when he was younger, he touted his mixed heritage. This was a smart move at the time, when any artist who was "black" was automatically declared R&B (oddly enough, this was not the case a couple of decades prior, when Hendrix, James Brown, Sly and all the Motown acts were played on rock stations). While Prince is black, he didn't want that to be an issue. He wanted it to be about his music, so he pointed out that both his parents had other races in their bloodlines (and NEWSFLASH: this is the case with almost everyone, regardless of their primary race. We all have different stuff in our heritage, and may not even realize it!)
The second bit of confusion comes from the fact that Prince has always defied the conventions of race. He borrows equally from acts like James Brown and Led Zepplin. He mixes these different styles, and defies what a "black" artist "should" be like (for that matter, he opened the door for caucasion artists like George Michael to defy how a "white" artists should be like). Prince is proud of his heritage, and says so in song. However, he also refuses to let paradigms set how he should look, act, sing, etc. By opposing convention, he shows us how much we all have in common, and thus appeals to people from all walks of life. Ultimately, he summed it up best when he said "race, in the space I mark 'human'" 
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God Bless America home of the Brave  | |
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Yes, Prince is black and my momma is santa claus and Jesus didnt have blue eyes more than likely.  &  | |
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Juice said: CalhounSq said: Fuck all this race shit - Keenan is SO DAMN FINE!
No Contest!!!  JUICE!!!!! & | |
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Janfriend said: TheBluePrince said: My granny's side, we try and keep it on the hush. People who really don't know what he stood for (especially towards the end), tend to judge you. I don't care though, I'm proud of who he was and what he did. I'll do my best to continue some of what he started. Blue I have a friend here in Cali who is related to you... Really...? It's a good possiblity I've never met them before. Blue  | |
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This has been a long time, actually 20 years, in the time of Purple Rain, but I remember reading an interview from Prince's mother, and she stated that she was black, his dad was black and the grandparents were black. Does anybody remember this article? It came in a book with several interviews at the time. | |
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why is this so hard 4 people 2 understand. YES, people, PRINCE is black. guess what else? he's PROUD of it. don't try 2 make him another race so it can make u all feel better. he is BLACK, NEGRO, COLORED, of AFRICAN descent just like ALL the other BLACK people in this country.
if ya'll took the time 2 learn a little something about AFRICAN-AMERICANS than there would be no need 2 question the "lightness" of his BLACK skin. he is BLACK, ya'll RECOGNIZE, deal with it and get over it. PRINCE will be the 1st 2 tell u that the only thing damaging he has done in his career is allowing a white woman 2 portray his mother in PURPLE RAIN. at the time, it did not matter 2 him. he was trying 2 point out the insignificance of COLOR. but u can't see this, all u see is that "oh his mom is white, this explains his rock music influence. <---bullshyt!! if he could have found purple humans 2 portray his family, it would have been done. over the years, those who did not know of his heritage took this and the entire movie as the fact. it is loosely based on FACTS, but still FICTION, FICTION, FICTION!!!!! since we live in AMERICA, where race is an issue 4 white people AND 4 black people who wish they were anything but BLACK (what a shame), PRINCE's race UNFORTUNATELY is still a big deal. SOME OF YA'LL SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER but the fact that POSTS like these STILL debate his race over & over its OBVIOUS. it sure looks as if people are trying 2 make him into everything OTHER than BLACK. why? i already know why. again, PRINCE ROGERS NELSON is BLACK. BLACK IN AMERICA = of AFRICAN DESCENT, AFRICAN-AMERICAN, NEGRO, of AFRICAN DESCENT, COLORED, racially mixed with 1 or more of the other races populating the Americas, and do include every derogatory name used 2 describe its members. dain-daingerous
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thank u 4 leaving this message. unfortunately, many still don't and refuse 2 recognize this. sumtymes said: i notice when prince's race
is mentioned strange comments are said 'prince is purple' cute i think i understand that what bothers me is people who will not accept that prince has stated that he is a black man and like many black americans he has tasted discrimination also like many black americans, prince has overcome many road blocks and has achieved greatness it is important that prince goes down in history representing who he is: one of the world's greatest musician's who was, is and will always be a black man dain-daingerous
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yes, babe, this is true, some AFRICAN were sold by their own tribes but this counts 4 only a fraction of 600 MILLION AFRICANS who were stolen from their land, only 2 die of disease, rape, murder and these crimes still stand as the world's greatest atrocity. its members are still suffering the effects of racism.AsTrAlTrAvElInHoTtiE said:[quote] hilton02895 said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Truthfully ask the question, where would America be today had Africans never been stolen from their homeland?
Here we go again. African's were not just "stolen" from there homeland. Some were traded by African tribes for spices and such. Those that were traded were usually members of a defeated tribe that were enslaved to begin with. Secondly, not all Blacks came from Africa. There has been Black Europeans for centuries. In response to the paragraph immediately above this one: **sigh** Yes, African slavery is a long-standing tradition. However, when Europeans entered the picture they based slavery not on repayment of debts, etc. (as Africans did), but slavery became the legal destiny of Africans/African-Americans simply because they were black. Europeans turned slavery into a purely racial issue. In 1660 slavery became legal. The only requirement was that one be black. dain-daingerous
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THE EVOLUTION WILL B COLOURIZED
I'm white, my wife's from Chili so our children will be mixed. In time we'll a be mixed. That's the only solution and therefore nature's way of solving problems. That's one of 'evolution''s definitions: creating solutions. Who cares about colour? We shouldn't, right? Ok, let's not, starting from here. I'm human. And you? | |
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FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said: 
Scary huh? Not really. I think Prince has always wanted 2 speak out on black issues but in the early days that wouldn't have sold records so he stuck 2 more light hearted stuff. This morning on Cable TV there was a crowd discussion on black musicians and the audience refused 2 accept Prince was black. 
It just makes me smile when alot of Orgers over the past few weeks have commented that Prince is getting very 'black'. He's always been black and had 2 deal with racism, predjudice and has always held his pro-black views so when U now hear him putting songs out like 'Family Name' don't think it's something new.
I myself am mixed, South Asian Indian and Caribbean black but it seems that once U have a drop of black blood the world sees U as black-unless Ur talented like Prince or Mariah Carey and then every1 wants 2 go in2 how unblack U R
4 years the West has taken people from other cultures and reinvented them 4 their own convinience 
Why is it. Alot of people will not just accept that Jesus didn't have blue eyes, there is no Santa Claus and Prince is Black.  people need to move on and accept Prince is black. I cannot believe that it is 2004 and people still have to bring up race. Who FUCKING CARES!!! "WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT SHADES OF BROWN." "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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First and formost I truely feel very appalled about this Statement Prince has never denied that he was black, but that he was mix with Italian so what I love Prince just the way he is. Should his color make a difference I think NOT. Prince is an Artist 2 me his music is like a canvas and Prince is the painter making good music 4 ALL THE TRUE PRINCE FANS! out their that want 2 hear what he's got 2 say. I want 2 go on this neverending jounery of music with Prince so all the Hater's out their that are drinking HATERAD need 2 stop and listen 2 what Prince is trying 2 tell'ya YOU NEED 2 GET YO' SOUL IN ORDER.
So 2 all my Prince Fans out their lets go on this Spritiual Musical Journey With The Hottest Man Every. And by the way many say Prince it's REAL and he's not Black take a real good look at MICHAEL JACKSON  Now tell me WHO is Real and Who is Fake
PRINCE OR MICHAEL (U CHOOSE) Pace and B' Wild!!!!! Bella | |
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jelena007 said: First and formost I truely feel very appalled about this Statement Prince has never denied that he was black, but that he was mix with Italian so what I love Prince just the way he is. Should his color make a difference I think NOT. Prince is an Artist 2 me his music is like a canvas and Prince is the painter making good music 4 ALL THE TRUE PRINCE FANS! out their that want 2 hear what he's got 2 say. I want 2 go on this neverending jounery of music with Prince so all the Hater's out their that are drinking HATERAD need 2 stop and listen 2 what Prince is trying 2 tell'ya YOU NEED 2 GET YO' SOUL IN ORDER.
So 2 all my Prince Fans out their lets go on this Spritiual Musical Journey With The Hottest Man Every. And by the way many say Prince it's REAL and he's not Black take a real good look at MICHAEL JACKSON Now tell me WHO is Real and Who is Fake
PRINCE OR MICHAEL (U CHOOSE) Pace and B' Wild!!!!! Bella  I'll go down on u all night long..it's Automatic
U will ?!?
Yes i will Baby | |
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