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Reply #30 posted 03/24/04 8:35am

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Well i have listened 2 "musicology"(live) & "call my name" and i really like both of them, i think this album will be as good as TRC, Prince will be bak on top, and u will be wishing u never started a thread, sayying musicology. another flop biggrin

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Reply #31 posted 03/24/04 8:43am

OdysseyMiles

manonearth said:

thedog said:

From what I heard of that tired ass James brown rehash first single, the album will be another flop. Prince will blow his chance the same way he did with rave by putting out a crappy album. I just wonder how bad he's gonna blame sony and how many band members he's gonna fire, as if it's their fault?



i have a better bet. I bet that you wont release a record this year and that even if you did it would flop even harder than New Power Soul.

Musicology the single gets me fucking psyched, but i'm probably half your age and therefore half as bitter.

Prince is god, all the old bitter fans please step aside and let the new generation take over, we'll no longer be needing your sinicism here... thanks, now go sit around thinking about when you were young, thin and had hair while you wait to die. Prince is in good hands now and hopefully we wont end up like you.


omg WOW!!! omg
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Reply #32 posted 03/24/04 8:47am

polkadotsuit

OdysseyMiles said:

manonearth said:




i have a better bet. I bet that you wont release a record this year and that even if you did it would flop even harder than New Power Soul.

Musicology the single gets me fucking psyched, but i'm probably half your age and therefore half as bitter.

Prince is god, all the old bitter fans please step aside and let the new generation take over, we'll no longer be needing your sinicism here... thanks, now go sit around thinking about when you were young, thin and had hair while you wait to die. Prince is in good hands now and hopefully we wont end up like you.


omg WOW!!! omg

I know omg
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Reply #33 posted 03/24/04 8:53am

OdysseyMiles

polkadotsuit said:

OdysseyMiles said:



omg WOW!!! omg

I know omg


Love your signature. Manonearth's comments were definitely my thrill for the day!! lol
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Reply #34 posted 03/24/04 8:56am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

folks really need to calm it down and wait a few days till the album actually gets put into people's hands before they make a concrete decision.

chill pill

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Reply #35 posted 03/24/04 9:03am

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Seriously "the dog" your rant comes across a bit personal vs. any objective thought on the guy's music. I could understand if you had already listened to it, but come on.
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Reply #36 posted 03/24/04 9:03am

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I find it ridiculous that ppl would actually diss this song, or write it off as a flop...first of all!

All the BS that plays on the radio now-a-days, that we listen too or our kids listen too, is so lame and tired...at this point PRINCE has nothing to prove to anyone... he's experimented with all sounds and genres of music from the late 70's til now!

PRINCE doesn't need anyones approval of his music, because he is a genius, and OutKast's album was not all that good, alot of the tracks sucked!
But their loved because its different and no one can do what they do...and it was pushed by their label...and same thing goes for PRINCE....

I can't waite to hear his music on the radio again and see it in the stores..

If Andre3000 can have a hit with HEY YA! which is a straight rip off from PRINCE, then PRINCE can have a hit with Musicology, a straight rip off from James Brown, its a pattern, in the beginning ain't no one sound like PRINCE, and thou we have the rappers and singers who attempt to sound like the past, its only best that an artist from 3 decades of music can re-introduce the old school sound and break some ground in the music world today with something as funky and hot! like MUSICOLOGY!
Even if we've heard all before...the track is still damned good!

PRINCE BRING IT ON!

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Musicology Party 4/2/04 -hope 2 c u there!
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Reply #37 posted 03/24/04 9:04am

Tom

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manonearth said:

thedog said:

From what I heard of that tired ass James brown rehash first single, the album will be another flop. Prince will blow his chance the same way he did with rave by putting out a crappy album. I just wonder how bad he's gonna blame sony and how many band members he's gonna fire, as if it's their fault?



i have a better bet. I bet that you wont release a record this year and that even if you did it would flop even harder than New Power Soul.

Musicology the single gets me fucking psyched, but i'm probably half your age and therefore half as bitter.

Prince is god, all the old bitter fans please step aside and let the new generation take over, we'll no longer be needing your sinicism here... thanks, now go sit around thinking about when you were young, thin and had hair while you wait to die. Prince is in good hands now and hopefully we wont end up like you.


Even if you're not half everyone elses age, you at least talk like it. Your description of people being old and outdated is amusing considering the person you're defending is much older than a large majority of us.
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Reply #38 posted 03/24/04 9:05am

Tom

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Is it really pessmistic to think this album will flop, or is it deja vu? I mean, we've all been here before haven't we?
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Reply #39 posted 03/24/04 9:10am

polkadotsuit

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polkadotsuit said:


I know omg


Love your signature. Manonearth's comments were definitely my thrill for the day!! lol

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Reply #40 posted 03/24/04 9:19am

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Tom said:

Is it really pessmistic to think this album will flop, or is it deja vu? I mean, we've all been here before haven't we?

quit usin my name in vain, tom! evil

mr.green
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Reply #41 posted 03/24/04 9:20am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Tom said:

Is it really pessmistic to think this album will flop, or is it deja vu? I mean, we've all been here before haven't we?

quit usin my name in vain, tom! evil

mr.green


A-ha!! So thedog was wrong - it's not Sony's fault, or the band's fault, it's deja fault!

no no no!
For shame.
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Reply #42 posted 03/24/04 9:26am

Universaluv

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Serveitupfrankie, you're right - Prince simply does not know how to pick singles. He can offer whatever guise or reasoning he wants for the poor choices, but he just picks the wrong songs as singles. I'm not saying that the songs themselves are poor (few people have the combination of musical and lyrical acumen that Prince possesses, and that's no lie); they're just bad choices for singles.


This is such a subjective point. Obviously Prince must know a thing or two about singles cause he's certainly had more hit singles than alot of his peers (and certainly everybody here on the org).

It's just too easy to say "Prince can't pick singles". I'd agree that there are a ton of songs that I personally don't know why he didn't release as singles. There are also more than a few songs he's released that were huge hits that I absolutely hate. It's just so subjective that it's almost not worth arguing.

Ultimately, Prince has a better record of creating and picking hit singles than I do, so I give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Reply #43 posted 03/24/04 9:39am

Handclapsfinga
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FunkMistress said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


quit usin my name in vain, tom! evil

mr.green


A-ha!! So thedog was wrong - it's not Sony's fault, or the band's fault, it's deja fault!

no no no!
For shame.

stfu

falloff
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Reply #44 posted 03/24/04 9:39am

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Being the constant pessimist of Prince.org I have a surprise for you all... Ught humm (clears throat). Given Princes' current state of popularity, I think Musicology will outsell "TRC, RAVE, Emancipation" and many of his latest releases. Although many may not be feelin Musicology, the video has the same feel as "Cream" to me; something designed for the masses that they will eat up. Prince marketing 101 is headed in the right direction. thumbs up! Now "Damita Jo"...there's a flop just waiting to happen lol.
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Reply #45 posted 03/24/04 9:41am

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FanofDaFascist said:

Being the constant pessimist of Prince.org I have a surprise for you all... Ught humm (clears throat). Given Princes' current state of popularity, I think Musicology will outsell "TRC, RAVE, Emancipation" and many of his latest releases. Although many may not be feelin Musicology, the video has the same feel as "Cream" to me; something designed for the masses that they will eat up. Prince marketing 101 is headed in the right direction. thumbs up!

mmmm...good points. nod
Now "Damita Jo"...there's a flop just waiting to happen lol.

betta run before the janfans see that. evillol
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Reply #46 posted 03/24/04 9:43am

BELL6983

I Have 2 somewhat agree with u on this topic.(c my artical, Prince will barely make the top 200) I have been in the music industry 4 quit sometime and understand verymuchso that your 1st single is the strength o an album. If Prince has a much stronger single than the 1st, than this is his 1st big mistake.The elements 2 a hit single or a record, "period" starts with a baseline and a hook and maybe some great lyrics and u go from there. I heard neither in the 2 songs i had heard from the Musicolgy album.We sometimes try so hard 2 b different that we become indifferent and 4get about those who got u there. The socalled Prince come back will far exceed his album and all u will hear is news about the tour since 98 and the new sony deal and soon your hinest will fade and so will the album. It's not hate; i love Prince; it's just the truth, deal with it. pease LAX. nutty
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Reply #47 posted 03/24/04 9:45am

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andykeen said:

Well i have listened 2 "musicology"(live) & "call my name" and i really like both of them, i think this album will be as good as TRC, Prince will be bak on top, and u will be wishing u never started a thread, sayying musicology. another flop biggrin


Stay positive Andy. Don't let nobody bring you down. This site is so full of negative assholes, so don't let them sway you. I am really looking forward to the new cd and I'm sure there will be plenty of great songs on it for us to enjoy.
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Reply #48 posted 03/24/04 9:45am

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I agree with the original poster, this song doesn't have a chance.

It's not that it's rehashed JB, the horns are great, it's just not pop material. And it's not because it's radical or fresh like When Doves Cry or Kiss, it's just a mediocre Prince song. And it's like listening to your parents -- all that ranting about how good music used to be, BORRRRING.
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Reply #49 posted 03/24/04 9:51am

Tom

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Tom said:

Is it really pessmistic to think this album will flop, or is it deja vu? I mean, we've all been here before haven't we?

quit usin my name in vain, tom! evil

mr.green


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Reply #50 posted 03/24/04 9:54am

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My 2 Cents.

I won't be as bold to say that the CD Musicology will flop, but "Musicology" as a lead single is a horrible choice and will not bring new listeners to buy this album. Prince has a major buzz around him right now, and he needs to release something with more of an edge than this rehased cut. Musicology is a repeat of "Pretty Man" and "The Work", and it's tired.

Take a look at the Tom Petty and George Harrison Board's. Most people had forgot about Prince, or at least forgot that he can play guitar. A decent lead single, would intrigue those that saw the performance on VH-1, and he might even pick up some new fans. Releasing "Musicology" as a lead single is a big mistake, and I'm afraid will not gain any interest from anyone except those that post here at Prince.org.
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Reply #51 posted 03/24/04 9:59am

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Tom said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


quit usin my name in vain, tom! evil

mr.green



and my mom actually named me after dionne's song, too!!! falloff
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Reply #52 posted 03/24/04 10:16am

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Call My Name and Reflection are definately radio friendly. I love Reflection and even if I wasn't getting three copies, I would buy it becuase of that one song.
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Reply #53 posted 03/24/04 10:49am

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Tom said:

manonearth said:




i have a better bet. I bet that you wont release a record this year and that even if you did it would flop even harder than New Power Soul.

Musicology the single gets me fucking psyched, but i'm probably half your age and therefore half as bitter.

Prince is god, all the old bitter fans please step aside and let the new generation take over, we'll no longer be needing your sinicism here... thanks, now go sit around thinking about when you were young, thin and had hair while you wait to die. Prince is in good hands now and hopefully we wont end up like you.


Even if you're not half everyone elses age, you at least talk like it. Your description of people being old and outdated is amusing considering the person you're defending is much older than a large majority of us.


All i'm saying is why do you fools bother stickin around if you think its over, go away and let those of us that enjoy what he is putting out enjoy it... theres so much negativity on here its sickening, i personally dont think of prince as being old or outdated, i think of him as being ageless and constantly growing, his vast catolog covers so much ground it would take a truly open minded person to be able to follow him and enjoy all his many different phases... when someone gets up here and blasts an album they have yet to hear i just laugh at you... why bother... go do something with your own life... if when the album comes out you dont like it we can respect that as an opinion and thats cool.. but to say its de ja vu before its even out is close minded.
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Reply #54 posted 03/24/04 10:51am

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Chartlisting is speculation, but I doubt top ten. Prince's last chart hit was TMBGITW...he just doesn't do it anymore for the masses because the music he puts out is mediocre (by Prince standards.) Musicology is a weak track, that sounds like the last (independent) single he tried, The Work Pt.1 (I wasn't feeling that one either.) Prince has never had the ability to pick singles (he always argues that he wants to challenge his listener-no, you just can't pick singles.) eek If it sounds like doom for this single Prince has no one to blame but himself (although we know he will blame everyone else.) He is a victim to his 'creature of habit' ways and history is bound to repeat itself. Be honest (all of you supporters of this single) You didn't absolutely lose your mind the first time you heard it, say like the first time you heard a song like "When Doves Cry"...there is no spark, it may be technically perfect but that is not what we loved about Prince we loved his rawness, not this polished "Vegas" act...and yes, he has left the buliding razz

Peace, Serveitupfrankie*


If the single does well, will you guys apologize? I like the song. It's funky. It may be in the James Brown sound, but he doesn't just replicate James' sound. He brings a little swing to it. Everyone's ear isn't sophisticated enough to pick up on the nuances. Besides, it's just your opinion. Your opinion doesn't determine is something will be a hit or not. If that was the case, you'd be the greatest record executive because you'd never miss.
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Reply #55 posted 03/24/04 11:30am

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Call My Name and Reflection are definately radio friendly. I love Reflection and even if I wasn't getting three copies, I would buy it becuase of that one song.



Reflection is radio friendly? Yeah, in the dentist office waiting room. I love the song; but I don't think there's a place for it on today's pop stations. Perhaps a Lite FM type station; but that's about all.
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Reply #56 posted 03/24/04 11:36am

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FanofDaFascist said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Call My Name and Reflection are definately radio friendly. I love Reflection and even if I wasn't getting three copies, I would buy it becuase of that one song.



Reflection is radio friendly? Yeah, in the dentist office waiting room. I love the song; but I don't think there's a place for it on today's pop stations. Perhaps a Lite FM type station; but that's about all.

mmm, not quite. both sound more like 'quiet storm'-type material, especially "call my name"--i can imagine that song bein played on kmoj late at night, when they do all their 'babymakin music' shows n'stuff.
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Reply #57 posted 03/24/04 11:43am

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I Have 2 somewhat agree with u on this topic.(c my artical, Prince will barely make the top 200) I have been in the music industry 4 quit sometime and understand verymuchso that your 1st single is the strength o an album. If Prince has a much stronger single than the 1st, than this is his 1st big mistake.The elements 2 a hit single or a record, "period" starts with a baseline and a hook and maybe some great lyrics and u go from there. I heard neither in the 2 songs i had heard from the Musicolgy album.We sometimes try so hard 2 b different that we become indifferent and 4get about those who got u there. The socalled Prince come back will far exceed his album and all u will hear is news about the tour since 98 and the new sony deal and soon your hinest will fade and so will the album. It's not hate; i love Prince; it's just the truth, deal with it. pease LAX. nutty


you say barely make the top 200, I say it'll hit the top 10. Lets see who's right. Although I'm talking about the single, and I think you're talking about the album when you refer to top 200. Where do you think the single will chart?
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Reply #58 posted 03/24/04 11:44am

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If you don't like Prince then why are you here

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Reply #59 posted 03/24/04 11:46am

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Slave2daGroove said:

If you don't like Prince then why are you here


don't get folks riled up with that crap, please. neutral
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