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Reply #60 posted 03/24/04 6:27am

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I can definitely believe that he experimented with E around the Black album/Lovesexy era, and I can believe he may have been smoking weed during the Exodus time period. I can even buy the POSSIBILITY that he did cocaine breifly, as was alleged in one of the bios recently. I don't buy the crack thing at all, because there is just no way to hide that. Look at Whitney. Everyone knew she was hittin' the pipe long before she admitted it.

As for the famous James Brown concert, I always thought Prince was drunk that night. He just seemed like he was having trouble getting even standing up. Sure, he rarely drinks, all the more reason why if he DID have a little to drink that night that he would hav gotten drunk way faster than the average person (not to mention that his size, and lack of ANY body fat would make him a very easy drunk).
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Reply #61 posted 03/24/04 10:06am

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HELLO!???! AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOW THE TERM "YOU'RE SMOKIN CRACK" TO MEAN YOU'RE BUGGIN? THE GUY PROBABLY JUST MEANT PRINCE WAS ACTING CRAZY BACK THEN DOH! doh! DON'T TAKE EVERYTHING SO LITERALLY
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Reply #62 posted 03/24/04 10:54am

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laurarichardson said:

ReeseStrongnight said:




he may not do them now, but you can see some of his performances from years ago where homeboy was CLEARLY high. that james brown concert where he was carried piggy back to the stage, screeching &wailing, playing guitar like shit, then proceeding to accidentaly knock stage columns all over the damn place sort of stands out in my mind...

that being said, there have been a number of former employees that have remarked about (past) drug use in the 90's. these are people in the music industry who have worked with him extensively that have said this, and i'm not referring to roadies or other people far down the prince totem pole who for whatever reason harbor any ill will towards him. just because someone isn't working for a particular celeb anymore dosen't mean that they weren't in the know about some behind-the-scenes antics, especially since a few of them were even partcipating in the aformentioned antics at the scenes in question. and anyone here who has even REMOTELY had any experience with music celebrities, ESPECIALLY on the road, KNOWS that the road manager of ALL people know EXACTLY what the hell is going on with the artist because they are in a way, responsible for practically babysitting them. And for anyone who has not been christened by the behind the scenes tour experience, I can tell you that one of the road manager's babysitting duties is to sort of "monitor" the drug situation on the road...whatever that means...to the best of their ability... so yes, there are actually a FEW really HEAVY hitting stories about drug related activities that went on with p, his band, ect., back in the day (rehab stories and everything) , from people who either knew him well or had to spend an extraordianary amount of time with him- but i like the idea from the orger that has the concept of whatever happened back in the day, "that was then, this is now".

oddly enough, i did heard something similar to this story years ago, too. as a fan i felt jipped because i felt i was always led to believe that he was so squeaky clean when it came to that kind of stuff. but then, in the end it was his business, so whatever.

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Sounds like a load of crap. In the book Possessed as well as DMSR the only drug taking mentioned is "Estacy" Prince has pissed off so many people I would think everybody who every saw him hit the pipe would be talking. Funny how this has not come up in the media or in these trashy books.

I would not be surprised if Prince smoked some weed or had a drink but it is next to impossible to hide "crack" use. Witness Whitney Houston.

His voice would be ruined and crack adds 30 years to your face.

Does anyone on this board think that Prince had a few drinks on the James Brown tape??



You perfectly expressed my sentiments!
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Reply #63 posted 03/24/04 11:11am

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at the Lovesexy Show '88 - Rosemont Horizon, Chicago - P walked to the edge of the stage and mocked smokin a joint at the crowd - like he was disapproving of anyone possibly needing anything else but HIM to get high - kinda thing. i've always thought that was sooooo cool!! cool

but then the song NOW is a different story . . . the song starts out with "light up another one dude" and later says something about "looking like a roach, better hit the light".

so i became torn on my proclamation that he doesn't do drugs . . . neutral
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Reply #64 posted 03/24/04 11:29am

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Lenae said:

at the Lovesexy Show '88 - Rosemont Horizon, Chicago - P walked to the edge of the stage and mocked smokin a joint at the crowd - like he was disapproving of anyone possibly needing anything else but HIM to get high - kinda thing. i've always thought that was sooooo cool!! cool

but then the song NOW is a different story . . . the song starts out with "light up another one dude" and later says something about "looking like a roach, better hit the light".

so i became torn on my proclamation that he doesn't do drugs . . . neutral


I was at that gig but don't remember that moment. No wonder the crowd was so lame -- they were all high.
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Reply #65 posted 03/24/04 12:06pm

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

This isnt the 1st time Ive heard about Prince being on drugs...sigh



me niether sad cry and to make it worse it was around the same time, and yes he was surrounded by KNOWN drug users.


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Reply #66 posted 03/24/04 12:19pm

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TedW said:

Lenae said:

at the Lovesexy Show '88 - Rosemont Horizon, Chicago - P walked to the edge of the stage and mocked smokin a joint at the crowd - like he was disapproving of anyone possibly needing anything else but HIM to get high - kinda thing. i've always thought that was sooooo cool!! cool

but then the song NOW is a different story . . . the song starts out with "light up another one dude" and later says something about "looking like a roach, better hit the light".

so i became torn on my proclamation that he doesn't do drugs . . . neutral


I was at that gig but don't remember that moment. No wonder the crowd was so lame -- they were all high.


do you remember where the car came out onto stage? he was on that side of the stage and walked out on a piece of the stage that goes out in the audience and did his little "joint" dance up at the nose bleed seats . . . then went back center stage.

what a fabulous show! my 1st . . . no way would i get high - i wanted to remember EVERY second of it!!!
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Reply #67 posted 03/24/04 3:51pm

chinua

I fine that hard 2 b-lieve dude probably was the CRACKHEAD!!!
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Reply #68 posted 03/24/04 4:54pm

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I'm not one to perpetuate any rumours, but I have heard things. I remember when I was about 15, (probably at my height of me being a prince fan) I was telling a woman who was a guest at my home bible study (a jehovah's witness) how much of a fan I was of his. She then in turn told me how her son was on tour with Prince playing bass for a short period. Which, I actually believe because this was the period after Brown Mark (The Revolution) was fired. She told me that her son only stayed with Prince for a short period because he became uncomfortable when he went to Prince's house and seen him and the rest of the band smoking cocaine in front of a statue and praying to it, she didn't use the term crack, but I guess that's what it would've been. Take it for what it's worth. shrug to this day that thought has haunted me. neutral She was an older lady about 55 at the time, so I don't see why would make up anything like that, as for her son who knows, might've been bitter cause Prince only used him for the tour.

Also, when you connect the dots to the people around Prince, he's guilty by association. Vanity, Jesse Johnson, George Clinton. That's all I know from his camp who's openly admitted to using cocaine or crack. I do have my suspicions about the rest of his clique/cliques. Come on man, he was one of the top selling musicians in the 80'S!!! That shit was everywhere!

His behaviour has also aroused my suspicions. I'm sure most fans have heard the stories of him being up late at night, writing and recording music. Wonder where he got all that energy from? lol hmmm

The secrecy/paranoia, that's a total give away. His obsession with sex, sex and cocaine complement each other so well, not that I've tried it whistling it's just what I've heard. eek

I could really go on and on about this, but I'll stop here. You're welcome in advance. mr.green

I don't hold any judgements against the man, shit most of my musical hero's were bent on some type of shit, but Prince was on that extra special shit! nod

I wonder if he still has connections to it, I'd like to try some. smile thumbs up!
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Reply #69 posted 03/24/04 5:06pm

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laurarichardson said:

In the book Possessed... the only drug taking mentioned is "Estacy"
Not so. That book also alleged prescription painkiller abuse.
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Reply #70 posted 03/24/04 5:14pm

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If he did that stuff, it did not hurt his health...nor his looks.
Hard to believe he was heavy into anything "un-healthy".
The other rockers his age look so used up.
So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #71 posted 03/24/04 6:06pm

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freakebear said:

laurarichardson said:

In the book Possessed... the only drug taking mentioned is "Estacy"
Not so. That book also alleged prescription painkiller abuse.

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No, the book had others saying that thought he was abusing painkillers. The Estacy use came from Prince. Apparently he told lots of employees and co-workers about his bad trip.

No one has every said anything about Crack use. I just can't see anyone maintaining his pace and using crack.
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Reply #72 posted 03/25/04 6:48am

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i vaguely remember reading that Stevie Nicks said she was invited over to P's house one night after recording (or something) and said she was never asked to return and she thought it was because she had been so intoxicated (drugs/alcohol) that she fell down his stairs on the way to the fridge in the middle of the night. he found her there and they did not "hang out" anymore after that. like he disapproved of her habit . . .

who knows - he may have dibled but he's not dabling (what?) wink
he may have experimented but by no means was it ever a lifestyle for him . . .
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Reply #73 posted 03/25/04 7:56am

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What the big deal, every1's doing it


[This message was edited Thu Mar 25 8:05:45 2004 by FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice]
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Reply #74 posted 04/03/04 10:17pm

jbell

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Some people just can't stand for others to have fame, fortune and respect. They always have to find something to bring someone down a peg or two. Who cares what Prince used to do. We all know he's clean as a whistle today and that's really all that matters IMO.







Who is this "we all" your pertaining to? neutral i hope not, but he could be the biggest coke/crackhead on the planet and i would'nt know it. However, it would explain his music these past 10 to 15 years are so.
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Reply #75 posted 04/03/04 10:30pm

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Well, I find the story hard to believe for one simple fact. Crack is generally a poor man's cocaine, the rich use the real stuff. Whitney ain't a crackhead, but I believe the correct term is coke head.
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Reply #76 posted 04/03/04 11:11pm

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I'm not surprised....just watching his earlier videos such as I Wanna Be Your Lover makes me think he's high on something...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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Reply #77 posted 04/03/04 11:14pm

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FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said:

What the big deal, every1's doing it


[This message was edited Thu Mar 25 8:05:45 2004 by FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice]



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Reply #78 posted 04/06/04 3:02pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Well, crack is delicious.


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Reply #79 posted 04/06/04 3:08pm

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goku said:

While loading in a set for Usher this past Sunday at Webster Hall in NYC for an AOL Broadcast, I was working with Geoff Perren, Usher's(also Andre 3000's) production manager. I brought up how I was a big Prince fan, and that I thought it was cool that Andre was part of the RRHOF induction ceremony. He then told me that he had worked with Prince in the past and pointed out how difficult he was to work with at that time. I told him that I thought that Prince had found a certain peace in recent years, and was mellowing out somewhat. He said, "Yeah, well, back then he was smokin' alot o' crack, so's I guess if he cleaned up his act he might be better lately." (He has a thick British accent). I didn't pursue it any more because, quite honestly, I was stunned! I think that Geoff worked with Prince before the name change. I've been a Prince fan for more than 20 years. I have never heard anyone claim that he was ever a heavy drug user. Even the lyrics in his songs throughout his career put down people that do.
I'm around the people behind the stars through the work that I do. And I know that they usually shoot straight from the hip. I'm hoping that Geoff's comment was more of some road weary bitterness that an actual true statement. But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?

PRINCE DON'T USE DRUGS!!!!!
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Reply #80 posted 04/06/04 3:10pm

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Anxiety said:

Okay fine, everyone's on crack. I'm on crack, you're on crack, there's crack in the air, crack in the water, crack crack crackety crack, we're all just a big planet of crackheads.

Anyone care for a mint?


Ok, you are absolutely hilarious!
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Reply #81 posted 04/06/04 3:11pm

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goku said:

While loading in a set for Usher this past Sunday at Webster Hall in NYC for an AOL Broadcast, I was working with Geoff Perren, Usher's(also Andre 3000's) production manager. I brought up how I was a big Prince fan, and that I thought it was cool that Andre was part of the RRHOF induction ceremony. He then told me that he had worked with Prince in the past and pointed out how difficult he was to work with at that time. I told him that I thought that Prince had found a certain peace in recent years, and was mellowing out somewhat. He said, "Yeah, well, back then he was smokin' alot o' crack, so's I guess if he cleaned up his act he might be better lately." (He has a thick British accent). I didn't pursue it any more because, quite honestly, I was stunned! I think that Geoff worked with Prince before the name change. I've been a Prince fan for more than 20 years. I have never heard anyone claim that he was ever a heavy drug user. Even the lyrics in his songs throughout his career put down people that do.
I'm around the people behind the stars through the work that I do. And I know that they usually shoot straight from the hip. I'm hoping that Geoff's comment was more of some road weary bitterness that an actual true statement. But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?

PRINCE DON'T USE DRUGS!!!!!
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Reply #82 posted 04/06/04 3:33pm

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Well, if he did smoke crack, it would explain a lot of things.

This, for one...





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Reply #83 posted 04/06/04 4:03pm

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I am not saying Prince never used any kind of drug before, but I wouldn't invest in the idea he did crack. I have watched and witnessed the devestation crack leaves in its path and believe me, Prince bears no resemblance to a crack user. If Prince had been a crack user, you people wouldn't even be discussing tours and good aftershows because a crackhead would have been too unreliable for any promoter to take seriously. Also the condition of Prince's voice would have dwindled to a haggard rasp, his complection would have darkened, his hair would become thick and matted. Crack does a real job not only on the body, but as well as the mind. There is no way Prince could be on crack and still manage to write and produce material as prolifically as he did in he 80's and 90's. Most people who do crack become addicted the first time they use it. They can't mask it and all they ever want to do is get high. It takes people from the top and drags them down to the ground! Rick James was or is a crackhead. Prince may have experimented or even frequently used drugs, but i seriously doubt Crack was the drug of choice! Take it from me I watched crack destroy a number of people I was very close to and it changes your very character. Prince wasn't on anybody's crack!
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Reply #84 posted 04/06/04 4:36pm

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Lenae said:

at the Lovesexy Show '88 - Rosemont Horizon, Chicago - P walked to the edge of the stage and mocked smokin a joint at the crowd - like he was disapproving of anyone possibly needing anything else but HIM to get high - kinda thing. i've always thought that was sooooo cool!! cool

but then the song NOW is a different story . . . the song starts out with "light up another one dude" and later says something about "looking like a roach, better hit the light".

so i became torn on my proclamation that he doesn't do drugs . . . neutral


I took that *totally* as a joke.

The way he says it, it sounds like he's taking a hit whilst he talks, like he's parodying people smoke weed.
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Reply #85 posted 04/06/04 6:56pm

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I dont think he Smocked crack, But I now for a fact he was taking some little pills called "Estacy" .


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You Are The Cat Looking Intense,

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