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Thread started 03/22/04 6:51pm

goku

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Usher/Outkast Production Manager claimed Prince used to smoke crack.

While loading in a set for Usher this past Sunday at Webster Hall in NYC for an AOL Broadcast, I was working with Geoff Perren, Usher's(also Andre 3000's) production manager. I brought up how I was a big Prince fan, and that I thought it was cool that Andre was part of the RRHOF induction ceremony. He then told me that he had worked with Prince in the past and pointed out how difficult he was to work with at that time. I told him that I thought that Prince had found a certain peace in recent years, and was mellowing out somewhat. He said, "Yeah, well, back then he was smokin' alot o' crack, so's I guess if he cleaned up his act he might be better lately." (He has a thick British accent). I didn't pursue it any more because, quite honestly, I was stunned! I think that Geoff worked with Prince before the name change. I've been a Prince fan for more than 20 years. I have never heard anyone claim that he was ever a heavy drug user. Even the lyrics in his songs throughout his career put down people that do.
I'm around the people behind the stars through the work that I do. And I know that they usually shoot straight from the hip. I'm hoping that Geoff's comment was more of some road weary bitterness that an actual true statement. But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?
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Reply #1 posted 03/22/04 7:01pm

squirrelgrease

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Well, crack is delicious.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #2 posted 03/22/04 7:02pm

Handclapsfinga
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dood....crack is...



...well, ya'll know the rest.
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Reply #3 posted 03/22/04 7:02pm

ufoclub

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seriously doubtful.

Hard to hide crack and heroin

easy to hide alcohol, coke and weed.

goku said:

While loading in a set for Usher this past Sunday at Webster Hall in NYC for an AOL Broadcast, I was working with Geoff Perren, Usher's(also Andre 3000's) production manager. I brought up how I was a big Prince fan, and that I thought it was cool that Andre was part of the RRHOF induction ceremony. He then told me that he had worked with Prince in the past and pointed out how difficult he was to work with at that time. I told him that I thought that Prince had found a certain peace in recent years, and was mellowing out somewhat. He said, "Yeah, well, back then he was smokin' alot o' crack, so's I guess if he cleaned up his act he might be better lately." (He has a thick British accent). I didn't pursue it any more because, quite honestly, I was stunned! I think that Geoff worked with Prince before the name change. I've been a Prince fan for more than 20 years. I have never heard anyone claim that he was ever a heavy drug user. Even the lyrics in his songs throughout his career put down people that do.
I'm around the people behind the stars through the work that I do. And I know that they usually shoot straight from the hip. I'm hoping that Geoff's comment was more of some road weary bitterness that an actual true statement. But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?
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Reply #4 posted 03/22/04 7:04pm

Anxiety

I think this may be a classic case of "the teller's the feller."
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Reply #5 posted 03/22/04 7:08pm

Handclapsfinga
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Anxiety said:

I think this may be a classic case of "the teller's the feller."

hehe...dude just mad cuz p wouldn't give 'im no money for a $5 rock. evillol
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Reply #6 posted 03/22/04 7:09pm

PrimordialOoze

I've heard rumors that Cat was a crack user during the Lovesexy era and that one time she accidentally somehow dropped a lit crack rock into Prince's hair which burned his scalp, which in turn pissed him off in a major way and soon after that alleged incident is when Cat suddenly disappeared into thin air.

There are so many rumors and whispered stories swirling about Prince, who knows what's actually true or what has a grain of truth to it or what is a flat out lie (bowl of bees, anyone?) but I will say this: Prince, for all his anti-drugs, anti-booze stance, sure seems to have had a large number of alleged druggies surrounding him.
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Reply #7 posted 03/22/04 7:26pm

Anxiety

Okay fine, everyone's on crack. I'm on crack, you're on crack, there's crack in the air, crack in the water, crack crack crackety crack, we're all just a big planet of crackheads.

Anyone care for a mint?
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Reply #8 posted 03/22/04 7:41pm

ThePurplePeopl
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eye'd smoke Mayte's crack any givin' day!

[This message was edited Mon Mar 22 19:51:52 2004 by ThePurplePeopleEater]
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Reply #9 posted 03/22/04 7:51pm

Anxiety





MMMM....CRACK-Y!!

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Reply #10 posted 03/22/04 7:57pm

Supernova

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Anxiety said:

Anyone care for a mint?

Nah, I only like crack.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #11 posted 03/22/04 7:57pm

Thumparello

He's a rock star they do this shit! P hides his personal life well but I don't think he party's anymore. But he was REAL high on American Bandstand and JB concert.
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Reply #12 posted 03/22/04 8:06pm

Anxiety

Supernova said:

Anxiety said:

Anyone care for a mint?

Nah, I only like crack.


You sure? My mints are wink wink curiously stong.

If you get my drift.
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Reply #13 posted 03/22/04 8:21pm

feB

if i remeber well in "slave 2 the rhythm" book it's mentioned that he used 2 b on speed with martika
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Reply #14 posted 03/22/04 8:27pm

JOEYCOCO

this is garbage. ENOUGH SAID.

goku said:

While loading in a set for Usher this past Sunday at Webster Hall in NYC for an AOL Broadcast, I was working with Geoff Perren, Usher's(also Andre 3000's) production manager. I brought up how I was a big Prince fan, and that I thought it was cool that Andre was part of the RRHOF induction ceremony. He then told me that he had worked with Prince in the past and pointed out how difficult he was to work with at that time. I told him that I thought that Prince had found a certain peace in recent years, and was mellowing out somewhat. He said, "Yeah, well, back then he was smokin' alot o' crack, so's I guess if he cleaned up his act he might be better lately." (He has a thick British accent). I didn't pursue it any more because, quite honestly, I was stunned! I think that Geoff worked with Prince before the name change. I've been a Prince fan for more than 20 years. I have never heard anyone claim that he was ever a heavy drug user. Even the lyrics in his songs throughout his career put down people that do.
I'm around the people behind the stars through the work that I do. And I know that they usually shoot straight from the hip. I'm hoping that Geoff's comment was more of some road weary bitterness that an actual true statement. But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?
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Reply #15 posted 03/22/04 8:43pm

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PrimordialOoze said:

I've heard rumors that Cat was a crack user during the Lovesexy era and that one time she accidentally somehow dropped a lit crack rock into Prince's hair which burned his scalp, which in turn pissed him off in a major way and soon after that alleged incident is when Cat suddenly disappeared into thin air.

There are so many rumors and whispered stories swirling about Prince, who knows what's actually true or what has a grain of truth to it or what is a flat out lie (bowl of bees, anyone?) but I will say this: Prince, for all his anti-drugs, anti-booze stance, sure seems to have had a large number of alleged druggies surrounding him.


Now this is the funniest sh*t I've heard in ages. Lawd have mercy.
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Reply #16 posted 03/22/04 9:09pm

PrimordialOoze

MorehouseMan said:

PrimordialOoze said:

I've heard rumors that Cat was a crack user during the Lovesexy era and that one time she accidentally somehow dropped a lit crack rock into Prince's hair which burned his scalp, which in turn pissed him off in a major way and soon after that alleged incident is when Cat suddenly disappeared into thin air.

There are so many rumors and whispered stories swirling about Prince, who knows what's actually true or what has a grain of truth to it or what is a flat out lie (bowl of bees, anyone?) but I will say this: Prince, for all his anti-drugs, anti-booze stance, sure seems to have had a large number of alleged druggies surrounding him.


Now this is the funniest sh*t I've heard in ages. Lawd have mercy.


Hey I didn't say I believed it I was just passing along what I've heard! biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 03/22/04 9:18pm

Zelaira

Couldn't Care bout History just bout now and how he would Bang me Wild!
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Reply #18 posted 03/22/04 9:20pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

dood....crack is...



...well, ya'll know the rest.

ROFLMFAO evillol REHAB, BITCH!! disbelief
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #19 posted 03/22/04 9:32pm

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goku said:

But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?



Not really. It's probably indicative of that position because a good number of Prince diehards believe everything he presents about his life as the gospel truth. Many of us are just plain gullible, feeling as if we have a real relationship with him, just because we like his music. We don't, but folks still refuse to accept the POSSIBILITY that he projects only the best.

"Prince couldn't possibly have hit a woman. He wrote, Friend, Mother, Lover, Sister, Wife. He couldn't have cheated on Mayte or Nona or Mani or Susannah. He wrote Adore and Forever in My Life..."

If it's been your experience that such associates of yours are in the know, then you might have reason to believe him. (by the way, does this production manager know you're putting his name and stuff out here like this? There's such thing as libel, you know...)
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Reply #20 posted 03/22/04 11:24pm

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ThreadBare said:

goku said:

But I can't seem to get his comments out of my mind. He also used Andre 3000 as a counterpoint to Prince. Claiming that Andre lives a clean life: no drugs, no booze, no meat. Isn't it odd that that is how most Prince fans would describe how Prince lives?



Not really. It's probably indicative of that position because a good number of Prince diehards believe everything he presents about his life as the gospel truth. Many of us are just plain gullible, feeling as if we have a real relationship with him, just because we like his music. We don't, but folks still refuse to accept the POSSIBILITY that he projects only the best.

"Prince couldn't possibly have hit a woman. He wrote, Friend, Mother, Lover, Sister, Wife. He couldn't have cheated on Mayte or Nona or Mani or Susannah. He wrote Adore and Forever in My Life..."

If it's been your experience that such associates of yours are in the know, then you might have reason to believe him. (by the way, does this production manager know you're putting his name and stuff out here like this? There's such thing as libel, you know...)

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Reply #21 posted 03/23/04 12:57am

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Prince... smoking... crack... ah ha... ah haha... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! lol lol lol PUH LEEEZE!
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Reply #22 posted 03/23/04 1:33am

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If it's been your experience that such associates of yours are in the know, then you might have reason to believe him. (by the way, does this production manager know you're putting his name and stuff out here like this? There's such thing as libel, you know...)[/quote]


I've heard and seen a good many things about the people that we work with, and been quite content just passing along these tidbits to my friends. However, this time, I just couldn't let this rest. As far as liablility, he shouldn't have offered this up. The behind the scenes world that I get access to is very insular, and people say alot of nasty things about the artists. I've even been privy to the oddest circumstances surrounding some artists, but don't go around saying shit like this and think that because of who you are 'in the business' that you're protected from people wanting to call you out on the nasty shit that some of these back-biting bitches let fly.
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Reply #23 posted 03/23/04 1:50am

javed

hey relax, even if it was true just remember 'that was then , this is NOW'.
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Reply #24 posted 03/23/04 3:16am

AaronA

Speed with Martika?
Wrong book mate,it says nothing of the sort.
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Reply #25 posted 03/23/04 3:28am

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javed said:

hey relax, even if it was true just remember 'that was then , this is NOW'.


lol

then he goes on about rollin an smokin a spliff
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Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Reply #26 posted 03/23/04 3:40am

Aerogram

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By now, roadies, striptease dancers and former associates have told me that Prince was on everything from coke to painkillers and a little horse tranquilizer in the morning with vodka and orange juice.

I'm writing this on pure cafeine.
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Reply #27 posted 03/23/04 3:51am

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It's an interesting subject, and I would place no judgement on Prince (or anyone else) either way - but a little drug use might go someway to explaining his almost fanatical attitude to orthodox religion. In as much that there may be a deep feeling of guilt and desire for redemption.
[This message was edited Tue Mar 23 3:52:35 2004 by Romance1600]
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Reply #28 posted 03/23/04 6:51am

liltalkm

I'll bet that the only crack Prince was smoking was the PINK one. 69 smile

I am sure that Prince has done his share of drugs in the past. I find it very hard to believe that he was ever an addict of any type of controlled substance. Crack is not really a recreational drug, but hey, it could be true.

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and yesterday's too far away
and the reality that you believe in begins to bind.
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Reply #29 posted 03/23/04 6:55am

gemini13

At home there are seventeen-year-old boys
And their idea of fun
Is being in a gang called The Disciples
High on CRACK, totin' a machine gun
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