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Reply #30 posted 03/22/04 10:41am

whodknee

The RRHOF ceremony is a LONG, BORING affair with too little performing and way too much ceremony and good taste for its own good. The audience was not offended, but THRILLED to have a good excuse to get off their butts.[/quote]


Exactly. People act like he just cut everyone off in mid-song and drowned everybody out. He just waited his turn and ripped it, plain and simple.

So what if he got a little carried away. If you're worried about technical proficiency and etiquette when you're watching a performance and listening to a song you need to take a step or two back. It's there for you to enjoy it and feel it, not study it.
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Reply #31 posted 03/22/04 10:51am

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I just saw the performance last night and all I got to say is 3 words:
FAB-U-LOUS. He just showed everybody how it's done. Prince has been in obscurity for a while except to his die-hard fans and this is his moment for shine again. He was finally getting his props with the RRHOF and he was feeling like he was on Cloud 20 (he was feeling good and confident that night, not conceited) and I ain't mad at him. That's how you do it. Show him how to play that guitar. As far as what serveitupfrankie said, whether Prince is a Jehovah's Witness or not and this goes for anyone who has gets into religion: There are going to be some things about you that will never change, religion or not. I don't think he was thinking it was his show. I just think he was caught up in the moment and he had respect for George Harrison and his son since P can relate since he lost his own father. Excellent performance.
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Reply #32 posted 03/22/04 11:12am

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How many times do I have to say, "it was good," for you to see that I'm not downplaying the solo? I've been playing guitar for 19 years. I'm blessed to be able to get paid to do it. So, if you will, I know a thing or two about playing solos.

When I say Prince played a good, solid solo, that's how I feel. Was it an exciting performance at a huge event? Yes. But, some of us are able to distinguish between a great performance and a mindblowing guitar solo.

I never said Prince isn't capable of mindblowing solos -- he is. While I particularly liked his open-string trickery near the start of the "...Gently Weeps" solo, the rest I found to be conventional playing. Very emotional, yes -- which is even more important than technique -- but rather conventional.

As far as being a fan but posting comments that fail to live up to your litmus test for enthusiasm, get a grip, pal. It's called diversity of thought on a fan site.[/quote]



OK OK... I won't argue with you about the guitar technique part... you're the expert but I suppose what I'm trying to say is that a supermely emotional performance seems to deserve an emotional response. I mean, the guy proved he is in fact one of the best performers out there! I can just see Prince reading these critiques of his work laughing.
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Reply #33 posted 03/22/04 12:48pm

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The bottom line is that Prince did exactly what people expected of him. When they asked him to play on the tribute song, they were asking because they knew he was the best guitar player there. They were not asking him to be up on stage and play rhythm guitar the whole time. He did exactly what was expected of him, a great guitar solo that nobody else that was there that night could have pulled off. You would not ask Pavarotti up on stage to sing back up would you? Of course not. That song was a tribute to Harrison and to guitar playing. Prince did not show up any of the other musicians. The musicians up on stage all knew that Prince was the best guitar player among them, so naturally he should have the main solo. I would hate to think that on a tribute song, people would be so petty as to not want to get upstaged by a better musician. A tribute song is not about the musicians on stage, rather it is about getting the best people you can to give a proper performance. On a side note, the solo was excellent, but not a "new standard" as some might suggest. It was not the best solo ever by Prince, but the best one he has done on television in quite some time.
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Reply #34 posted 03/22/04 1:36pm

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I'm a guitarist and I thought it was a great solo, both in terms of what Prince is capable of on the instrument and what is apprpriate for the music being played. Conventional? Yeah, I suppose -- but minor pentatonics are the bread and butter of rock-and-roll, so I don't really get the criticism. Mike Stern wasn't invited to the gig, so there. No one is claiming it to be the greatest solo of all time (that distinction belongs to Jimi's "Machine Gun"!), but it was emotional and deeper than what Clapton played on the record and live.

Theatrics? DUDE, IT'S ROCK-AND-ROLL! I was actually glad to see some color up there, a real rock star in a sea of "Aw shucks," regular-guy-type rock stars. They asked him to play and this is what you get when you invite Prince to the party. Petty clearly green-lit him going off, and he obliged. I could've done without the falling off the stage moment, but hey, that's Prince. The tune requires an epic solo -- perhaps the first "guitar hero" tune in rock music -- and he only serviced Harrison's memory by playing what he did. Dhani loved it, so there.
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Reply #35 posted 03/22/04 1:39pm

TedW

diamond99 said:

On a side note, the solo was excellent, but not a "new standard" as some might suggest. It was not the best solo ever by Prince, but the best one he has done on television in quite some time.


I agree with the last sentence, but I do think it was a new standard for that tune.
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Reply #36 posted 03/22/04 2:21pm

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Prince is so fucking rude! Surely out of respect for George he should have dressed all in black with a black veil over his face, sat with his back to the audience, and played a solemn rythym part.

Fancy coming out and playing rock n roll with spirit and emotion! What a fool he is!

George would be rolling in his grave with all that going on. rolleyes

Good lawd.


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Reply #37 posted 03/22/04 4:07pm

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Harrison's own son didn't bitch about it, and actually loved it so much he wanted to personally thank him and "give him a big hug," so NOBODY else should be bitching about it. I think Harrison's appreciation for Prince's performance supercedes any whining going on about it on Prince.org. By a shawshank mile.
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Reply #38 posted 03/22/04 4:14pm

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Supernova said:

Harrison's own son didn't bitch about it, and actually loved it so much he wanted to personally thank him and "give him a big hug," so NOBODY else should be bitching about it. I think Harrison's appreciation for Prince's performance supercedes any whining going on about it on Prince.org. By a shawshank mile.



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Reply #39 posted 03/22/04 4:22pm

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whodknee said:

The RRHOF ceremony is a LONG, BORING affair with too little performing and way too much ceremony and good taste for its own good. The audience was not offended, but THRILLED to have a good excuse to get off their butts.



Exactly. People act like he just cut everyone off in mid-song and drowned everybody out. He just waited his turn and ripped it, plain and simple.

So what if he got a little carried away. If you're worried about technical proficiency and etiquette when you're watching a performance and listening to a song you need to take a step or two back. It's there for you to enjoy it and feel it, not study it.
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Did you guys happen to see Prince in the background when Tom Petty was singing his solo, was Tom Petty upstaging Prince~ Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. sad
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Reply #40 posted 03/22/04 4:42pm

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Supernova said:

Harrison's own son didn't bitch about it, and actually loved it so much he wanted to personally thank him and "give him a big hug," so NOBODY else should be bitching about it. I think Harrison's appreciation for Prince's performance supercedes any whining going on about it on Prince.org. By a shawshank mile.

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Reply #41 posted 03/22/04 4:44pm

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bkw said:

Supernova love

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Reply #42 posted 03/22/04 5:02pm

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bkw said:

Prince is so fucking rude! Surely out of respect for George he should have dressed all in black with a black veil over his face, sat with his back to the audience, and played a solemn rythym part.

Fancy coming out and playing rock n roll with spirit and emotion! What a fool he is!

George would be rolling in his grave with all that going on. rolleyes

Good lawd.


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[This message was edited Mon Mar 22 14:22:29 2004 by bkw]


I hope your being sarcastic... George Harrison was the most spiritual of the group and if he is rolling in his grave, its cos he cant get out to dance and applaud the CELEBRATION of his music!
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Reply #43 posted 03/22/04 5:04pm

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It was GOOD, but I wouldn't say it was the mind blowing experience that, say, the end of "Lets Go Crazy" had when you saw it up on the big screen, (IF you got that chance). This was a great solo, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it was the greatest guitar performance ever. Let's not sell Hendrix' "Machine Gun" down the river so easily...

but you could be right - it well could be the best one you've ever seen. I'm a guitar player, I've seen tons.

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Reply #44 posted 03/22/04 5:13pm

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all i'm saying is this: when my mother calls me about a prince solo during a george harrison tribute (...the beatles have been her favorite group since she was 14, in 1964...) and tells me he stole the show, i know it's some bad-ass shit!
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Reply #45 posted 03/22/04 5:25pm

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thebanishedone said:

i haven't seen or heard prince's peformance on george harison tribute.
plase explain me what was so special that eople rave on org about that solo.
was that solo tehnical ,fast?
deeply soulful?
is it better then just my imagination solo,or joy in repetition from ona live or solo from west?


Man, everything. The ideas kept changing and each were fantastic. he put SOO much soul into that guitar solo, you just didn't want it to end. He hit very difficult notes with EASE. The way he smiled at Tom Petty and George Harrison's son throughout the performance. Man, it its up there with Just My Imagination, Joy In Repetition, Santana Medley from Glam Slam East 4CD, Funk Stuff from The Live Experience, 2NigsUnited4WestCompton ONA box set...yeah!!
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Reply #46 posted 03/22/04 5:29pm

stray

This has been interesting reading the responses to the solo, so i will try to be brief. First of all this is a Prince fan site so of course our opinion may be a little dare I say Fanatical. But we are talking about music and the first thing you go with is your gut reaction, that is what makes you tap your toes, makes you want to get up and dance , make a fool of yourself singing in your car while you are driving. So to me talking about the technical aspects of a perfomance would be mopre appropriate in a scholastic setting. If the internet was around in the 60's would we discuss the tec hnical aspects of Hendrix version of the Star Spangled Banner? As for the "histrionics" of the performance it is simple, its rock'n roll. Whether it is James Brown's assistant bringing out the cape, Jimi lighting his guitar on fire, the Who destoying their instruments, or the chili pepers coming out in just socks, it is showmanship.Sorry about being long winded, but it nice to see people be passionate about music, and not following the mindless droves. Peace
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Reply #47 posted 03/22/04 5:32pm

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thebanishedone said:

i haven't seen or heard prince's peformance on george harison tribute.
plase explain me what was so special that eople rave on org about that solo.
was that solo tehnical ,fast?
deeply soulful?
is it better then just my imagination solo,or joy in repetition from ona live or solo from west?


I'll tell you what was good about it. IT KICKED ASS!!!!! PRINCE ROCKS!!!!!

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Reply #48 posted 03/22/04 5:44pm

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Reply #49 posted 03/22/04 6:08pm

nunatak

They were fine solos and he was in fine form - but not mind altering....grab the Bataclan 2cd from 2002 and listen to the intro jam - that's way cooler (IMO). The HOF performace was especially great coz he was on stage with others that he does not usually play with. It was cool but it's not like hasn't done nay blasting solos before (he held back during regular ONA shows and did a few nice one's at the aftershows). The Santana medley during the main '02 gigs got real tiring quick.
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Reply #50 posted 03/22/04 6:28pm

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SassierBritches said:

all i'm saying is this: when my mother calls me about a prince solo during a george harrison tribute (...the beatles have been her favorite group since she was 14, in 1964...) and tells me he stole the show, i know it's some bad-ass shit!



I KNOW that's right. . .thumbs up! clapping
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Reply #51 posted 03/22/04 7:10pm

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You can tell how much George Harrison's son was lovin' that performance from Prince by the big Kool-Aide smile on his face biggrin
Did you notice how the backround matched Prince ?? He obviously was asked to perform in tribute just the way he did.It was an awesome finale.Don't get it twisted.
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Reply #52 posted 03/22/04 7:26pm

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How can u ask a question like that before you even see it?
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Reply #53 posted 03/22/04 9:26pm

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ThreadBare said:

1 part really solid, though mostly conventional guitar playing + 2 parts exhuberant fandom = the hype you've heard about this solo.

It was good, very emotionally played, but not without a wrong note or two (which is normal) or Prince hamming it up for the crowd and camera.

If anything, it was a study in contrasts between his histrionic solo and the earlier, standard one offered by another guitarist in the band.


lol yeah really... a study of what's fonky and what isn't wink
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Reply #54 posted 03/22/04 9:29pm

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Novabreaker said:

Now that I've also watched it I have to say his stage antics weres a bit tacky, to be completely honest. And funnily enough, he looked like Andy McCoy from Hanoi Rocks writhing around in his, let's just say, not-quite-tasteful clothing.


uh .. excuse me but... according to whose taste? personally I thought everyone else on the stage needed to go to style court...
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Reply #55 posted 03/23/04 1:53am

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JumpUpOnThe1 said:

Novabreaker said:

Now that I've also watched it I have to say his stage antics weres a bit tacky, to be completely honest. And funnily enough, he looked like Andy McCoy from Hanoi Rocks writhing around in his, let's just say, not-quite-tasteful clothing.


uh .. excuse me but... according to whose taste? personally I thought everyone else on the stage needed to go to style court...


I think anyone who has at least some taste. But Prince has always been like that: taking a campy approach to his image, underlining it and fusing it with his musical expression. It usually works for him in the end.

That is, to us, his fans. I can't be so sure about other people.
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Reply #56 posted 03/23/04 2:02am

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bkw said:

Prince is so fucking rude! Surely out of respect for George he should have dressed all in black with a black veil over his face, sat with his back to the audience, and played a solemn rythym part.

Fancy coming out and playing rock n roll with spirit and emotion! What a fool he is!

George would be rolling in his grave with all that going on. rolleyes

Good lawd.


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[This message was edited Mon Mar 22 14:22:29 2004 by bkw]


I hope your being sarcastic... George Harrison was the most spiritual of the group and if he is rolling in his grave, its cos he cant get out to dance and applaud the CELEBRATION of his music!


Ahem. I think bkw's post could actually be used as a definition of sarcasm. wink
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Reply #57 posted 03/23/04 5:14am

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bkw said:

Prince is so fucking rude! Surely out of respect for George he should have dressed all in black with a black veil over his face, sat with his back to the audience, and played a solemn rythym part.

Fancy coming out and playing rock n roll with spirit and emotion! What a fool he is!

George would be rolling in his grave with all that going on. rolleyes

Good lawd.


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Reply #58 posted 03/23/04 5:44am

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Theatrics? DUDE, IT'S ROCK-AND-ROLL! I was actually glad to see some color up there, a real rock star in a sea of "Aw shucks," regular-guy-type rock stars. They asked him to play and this is what you get when you invite Prince to the party. Petty clearly green-lit him going off, and he obliged. I could've done without the falling off the stage moment, but hey, that's Prince. The tune requires an epic solo -- perhaps the first "guitar hero" tune in rock music -- and he only serviced Harrison's memory by playing what he did. Dhani loved it, so there.
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Reply #59 posted 03/23/04 6:31am

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Count me in as thinking it was a little tacky.

Tributes shoudn't involve showing off, but rather, paying respect ALONG with the other folks (who actually worked with Harrison). The key word is "gently," folks.
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