to me rainbow children album is one of his funkiest ever.
his live one nite alone shows had much more funk than ever before especialy that 1+1+1=3 /rolleceoster/sex machine medley.
bass is much funkier now than it was b4.
on many of his records before you almost didn't have real bass or it was doubled with synth.
so what was funkier before?

1 + 1 + 1 Is 3 is derivative of Erotic City.

As for what was funky in the 80'ies?

Let's see...

1980
Dirty Mind (4:11) (Prince/Matt Fink)
When You Were Mine (3:44)
Do It All Night (3:42)
Gotta Broken Heart Again (2:13)
Uptown (5:30)
Head (4:40)
Sister (1:33)
Party Up (4:24) (Morris Day/Prince)

1981
Gotta Stop (Messin’ About) (2:54)
The Time: Get It Up (9:05)
Girl (5:34)
After Hi School (4:20) (Dez Dickerson)
Cool (10:06) (Prince/Dez Dickerson)
Oh, Baby (4:57)
The Stick (8:23) (Lisa Coleman/Prince)
Sue Ann Carwell: Make It Through The Storm (Prince/Chris Moon) – re-recorded version
Controversy (7:14)
Sexuality (4:20)
Do Me, Baby (7:47)
Private Joy (4:25)
Ronnie, Talk To Russia (1:48)
Let’s Work (3:57)
Annie Christian (4:21)
Jack U Off (3:12)

1982
Ren Woods: I Don’t Wanna Stop (5:58) – re-recorded version
Vanity 6: Nasty Girl (5:10)
Wet Dream (4:12)
Drive Me Wild (2:31)
He’s So Dull (2:32) (Dez Dickerson)
If A Girl Answers (Don’t Hang Up) (5:34) (Prince/Terry Lewis)
Make-up (2:40)
Bite The Beat (3:12) (Prince/Jesse Johnson)
3 x 2 = 6 (5:24)
The Time: Wild And Loose (7:32) (Prince/Dez Dickerson)
777-9311 (7:57)
OnedayI’mgonnabesomebody (2:27)
The Walk (9:30)
Gigolos Get Lonely Too (4:40)
I Don’t Wanna Leave You (6:30)
Grace (2:32)
How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore (3:54)
1999 (6:22)
Little Red Corvette (4:58)
Delirious (3:56)
Let’s Pretend We’re Married (7:20)
D.M.S.R. (8:05)
Automatic (9:24)
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) (4:00)
Free (5:00)
Lady Cab Driver (8:25)
All The Critics Love U In New York (5:55)
International Lover (6:35)

1983
Stevie Nicks: Stand Back (Stevie Nicks) – keyboards
Horny Toad (2:13)
Irresistible Bitch (4:11)

1984
17 Days (3:54) (Prince/Matt Fink/Lisa Coleman/Wendy Melvoin)
Sheila E: The Belle Of St. Mark (5:08) (Prince/Jesse Johnson)
Shortberry Strawcake (4:44)
Noon Rendezvous (3:50) (Prince/Sheila E)
Oliver’s House (6:20)
Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar (3:50)
The Glamorous Life (8:58)
Let’s Go Crazy (4:39)
Take Me With U (3:54)
The Beautiful Ones (5:15)
Computer Blue (3:59) (Prince/Matt Fink/Lisa Coleman/Wendy Melvoin/John L. Nelson)
Darling Nikki (4:15)
When Doves Cry (5:52)
I Would Die 4 U (2:51)
Baby I’m A Star (4:20)
Purple Rain (8:45)
The Time: Ice Cream Castles (7:33) (Prince/Morris Day)
My Drawers (4:04)
Chili Sauce (5:45)
Jungle Love (5:29) (Prince/Morris Day/Jesse Johnson)
If The Kid Can’t Make You Come (7:33)
The Bird (7:40) (Prince/Morris Day/Jesse Johnson)
Tricky (3:12)
Erotic City (7:24)
Sheena Easton: Sugar Walls (4:09)
God (Vocal) (3:59)
God (Instrumental) (7:49)
Apollonia 6: Happy Birthday, Mr. Christian (7:06)
Sex Shooter (3:39)
Blue Limousine (6:19)
A Million Miles (I Love You) (5:51) (Prince/Lisa Coleman)
Ooh She She Wa Wa (4:10)
Some Kind Of Lover (4:48) (Prince/Brenda Bennett)
In A Spanish Villa (2:12)
Another Lonely Christmas (6:47)

1985
4 The Tears In Your Eyes (2:45)
Around The World In A Day (3:25) (David Coleman/Prince)
Paisley Park (4:41)
Condition Of The Heart (6:46)
Raspberry Beret (3:31)
Tambourine (2:46)
America (3:40) (Prince/The Revolution)
Pop Life (3:42)
The Ladder (5:26) (Prince/John L. Nelson)
Temptation (8:21)
She’s Always In My Hair (3:27)
André Cymone: The Dance Electric (5:44)
Hello (6:38)
The Family: High Fashion (5:06)
Mutiny (3:57)
The Screams Of Passion (5:26)
Yes (4:27) (Prince/Eric Leeds)
River Run Dry (3:31) (Bobby Z. Rivkin)
Nothing Compares 2 U (4:31)
Susannah’s Pajamas (3:58) (Prince/Eric Leeds)
Desire (4:58)
Sheila E: Sister Fate (3:50)
Dear Michaelangelo (4:38)
A Love Bizarre (12:18) (Prince/Sheila E)
Toy Box (5:32)
Yellow (2:11)
Romance 1600 (3:56)
Bedtime Story (3:45)
Girl (7:36)
Sheila E: Holly Rock (4:56)

1986
The Bangles: Manic Monday (3:01)
94 East: Games (4:59) (Pepé Willie) – guitar
Dance To The Music Of The World (5:07) (Pepé Willie) – guitar, keyboards, drums & backing vocals
One Man Jam (6:15) (Pepé Willie) – everything but synth & bass
Just Another Sucker (5:17) (Prince/Pepé Willie)
If You Feel Like Dancin’ (7:08) (Pepé Willie) – guitar & keyboards
Lovin’ Cup (4:20) (Pepé Willie) – guitar, keyboards & drums
Mazarati: 100 Mph (7:23)
Strawberry Lover (5:30) (Brownmark/Prince)
I Guess It’s All Over (4:56) (Brownmark/Prince)
Love Or $ (6:50) (Prince/The Revolution)
Christopher Tracy’s Parade (2:11)
New Position (2:21)
I Wonder U (1:40)
Under The Cherry Moon (2:57)
Girls & Boys (5:30)
Life Can Be So Nice (3:12)
Venus De Milo (1:54)
Mountains (3:58) (Lisa Coleman/Wendy Melvoin/Prince)
Do U Lie? (2:43)
Kiss (3:38)
Anotherloverholenyohead (3:58)
Sometimes It Snows In April (6:50) (Prince/Lisa Coleman/Wendy Melvoin)
Alexa De Paris (4:54)
Kenny Rogers: You’re My Love (4:06) – re-recorded version

1987
Madhouse: One (7:16)
Two (5:31)
Three (3:16)
Four (2:24)
Five (1:15)
Six (4:28)
Seven (4:09)
Eight (10:05)
Six And ½ (2:36) (Eric Leeds)
La, La, La, He, He, Hee (10:32)
Sheila E: One Day (I’m Gonna Make You Mine) (4:47) (Prince/Sheila E)
Koo Koo (3:24) (Prince/Sheila E)
Pride And The Passion (4:05) (Prince/Sheila E)
Boy’s Club (3:56) (Prince/Sheila E)
Love On A Blue Train (5:25) (Prince/Sheila E)
Sign ‘O’ The Times (5:02)
Play In The Sunshine (5:05)
Housequake (4:38)
The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker (4:04)
It (5:10)
Starfish And Coffee (2:51) (Prince/Susannah Melvoin)
Slow Love (4:18) (Prince/Carole Davis)
Hot Thing (5:39)
Forever In My Life (3:38)
U Got The Look (3:58)
If I Was Your Girlfriend (4:54)
Strange Relationship (4:04)
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (6:31)
The Cross (4:46)
It’s Gonna Be A Beautiful Night (8:59) (Prince/Matt Fink/Eric Leeds)
Adore (6:29)
Deborah Allen: Telepathy (5:07)
Nona Hendryx: Baby Go-Go (5:08) – re-recorded version
Shockadelica (6:12)
Jill Jones: Mia Bocca (7:21)
G-Spot (4:30)
Violet Blue (4:24)
All Day, All Night (5:41)
For Love (4:27)
My Man (3:15)
Baby, You’re A Trip (5:23)
77 Bleeker St. (4:34) - overdubs
Sheena Easton: Eternity (3:50)
Taja Sevelle: Wouldn’t You Love To Love Me? (4:01)
If I Could Get Your Attention (3:41)
Madhouse: Nine (2:06)
Ten (5:04) (Prince/Eric Leeds/Levi Seacer Jr./Sheila E)
Eleven (6:14) (Prince/Eric Leeds/Levi Seacer Jr./Sheila E)
Twelve (5:14)
Thirteen (4:46)
Fourteen (5:12)
Fifteen (3:49) (Prince/Eric Leeds/Levi Seacer Jr./Sheila E)
Sixteen (4:17) (Prince/Eric Leeds)
Ten and ½ (3:22) (Prince/Eric Leeds/Levi Seacer Jr./Sheila E)

1988
Madhouse: Thirteen And ¼ (5:47) (Prince/Eric Leeds/Levi Seacer Jr./Sheila E)
Dale Bozzio: So Strong (4:28)
Good Love (5:11)
Eye No (5:46)
Alphabet St. (5:40)
Glam Slam (5:07)
Anna Stesia (4:58)
Dance On (3:45)
Lovesexy (5:50)
When 2 R In Love (3:58)
I Wish U Heaven (2:44)
Positivity (7:17)
Three O’ Clock: Neon Telephone (3:57) – re-recorded version
Escape (Free Yo Mind From This Rat Race) (6:26)
Scarlet Pussy (6:09)
Chaka Khan: Sticky Wicked (6:54)
Sheena Easton: 101 (4:06)
Cool Love (4:03)

1989
Madonna: Love Song (4:52) (Prince/Madonna)
Keep It Together (5:05) (Madonna/Stephen Bray) - guitar
Act Of Contrition (2:19) - guitar
Mavis Staples: Interesting (4:28)
Come Home (5:29)
Jaguar (5:29)
Train (4:27)
I Guess I’m Crazy (4:10)
Time Waits For No One (6:12) (Prince/Mavis Staples)
200 Balloons (5:05)
The Future (4:08)
Electric Chair (4:08)
The Arms Of Orion (5:03)
Partyman (3:11)
Vicki Waiting (4:52)
Trust (4:24)
Lemon Crush (4:15)
Scandalous (6:15)
Batdance (6:13)
Patti LaBelle: Yo Mister (5:06)
Love 89 (5:06) (Prince/Sheena Easton)
Wendy & Lisa: Lolly Lolly (According To Prince) (4:19) – remix
George Clinton: Tweakin’ (A Mix) – remix
Tweakin’ (C. Mixapella) – remix
Tweakin’ (Dub Mix) – remix
Hysterical – remix
Feel U Up (6:30)
Brownmark: Bang Bang (4:57) (Levi Seacer Jr) – backing vocal
Shall We Dance (4:41)
I Love U In Me (4:13)
Kahoru Kohiruimaki: Mindbells (4:29) (Prince/Levi Seacer Jr.)
Bliss (5:47) (Prince/Levi Seacer Jr.)
Sex (7:00) (Prince/Levi Seacer Jr.)
Aretha Franklin & James Brown: Gimme Your Love (Remix by Paisley Park) - remix

Take your pick.

scififilmnerd said:

damn scifi

ALL OF HIS SONGS MEANT SOMETHING IN THE 80'S



THATS WHY....

HOW COME U DON'T CALL ME ANYMORE.... THAT'S A COMPOSITION!!!!

CLAIRE FISCHER ON STRING ARRANGEMENT! THAT'S COMPOSITION!!!!

WHAT'S THIS 15MIN PUT TOGETHER collage called Musicology.....i don't know




retire prince...

You can't define the FUNK .....
It's bigger than the music .....

In the 80's Prince sure was funky,
nowadays he's trying too hard to be funky

@ Scifinerd.

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Stuff like The Work and Musicology - I guess they are funky, but how tedious they are compared to some of his older funk tunes.

Even the throwaway ones in yester-year were more enjoyable IMO to The Work and Musicology.

I'd rather bump "Oliver's House" than "Musicology" any day.

there seems to be a confusion between people saying funky as in good funk music and people saying funky as in upbeat or just rythmic (sp)!

i think generally people dont care whether prince was funkier in the 80s or not, they just prefer the music from the 80s so therefore it feels funkier to them

Actually he released very little straight funk music between 82-90. Just a few cuts, the more genuine funk compositions were left in the vaults.

CinisterCee said:

Me, too.

Which reminds me, I guess thebanishedone can also choose from these:

1980
Uptown (Edit) (4:09)
Dirty Mind (3:54)

1981
Controversy (Edit) (3:39)

1982
Let’s Work (Edit) (2:56)
Lets Work (Dance Remix) (8:02)
Do Me, Baby (Edit) (3:55)
1999 (Edit) (3:35)
Vanity 6: Wet Dream (Instrumental)

1983
Little Red Corvette (Edit) (3:08)
All The Critics Love U In New York (Edit) (3:15)
Little Red Corvette (Dance Mix) (8:22)
Little Red Corvette (Edit Of Dance Mix) (4:32)
Vanity 6: Drive Me Wild (Extended Version) (7:08)
Delirious (Edit) (2:36)
Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Edit) (3:40)

1984
Sheila E: The Glamorous Life (Club Edit) (6:33)
The Belle Of St. Mark (Dance Remix) (7:43)
When Doves Cry (Edit) (3:49)
Let’s Go Crazy (Edit) (3:46)
Erotic City (Edit) (3:53)
Let’s Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix) (7:35)
Sheena Easton: Sugar Walls (Dance Mix)
Sugar Walls (Red Mix)
Purple Rain (Edit) (4:02)
Apollonia 6: Sex Shooter (Long Version) (6:45)
Another Lonely Christmas (Edit) (4:20)
I Would Die 4 U (Extended Version) (10:15)

1985
Baby I’m A Star (2:55)
The Time: The Bird (Remix) (6:25)
Paisley Park (Remix) (6:59)
Raspberry Beret (New Mix) (7:25)
She’s Always In My Hair (New Mix) (6:48)
André Cymone: The Dance Electric (Edit) (3:59)
André Cymone: The Dance Electric (Long Version)
Hello (Edit) (3:24)
Pop Life (Fresh Dance Mix) (6:16) – remixed by Sheila E
Pop Life (Extended) (9:03)
Girl (Edit) (3:57)
The Family: The Screams Of Passion (Extended Version) (6:48)
Sheila E: Sister Fate (Instrumental) (3:39)
Sister Fate (Extended Version) (5:45)
America (21:46)
Sheila E: The Glamorous Life/Sister Fate/A Love Bizarre (Special Medley) (7:08)
A Love Bizarre Parts 1 And 2 (7:14)

1986
The Bangles: Manic Monday (Extended) (4:57)
Kiss (3:45)
Love Or $ (Edit) (3:57)
Kiss (Extended Version) (7:16)
Mountains (Extended Version) (10:03)
Alexa De Paris (Edit) (3:20)
Girls & Boys (Edit) (3:27)
Anotherloverholenyohead (Extended) (7:52)

1987
Madhouse: Six (End Of The World Mix) (6:11)
Sign ‘O’ The Times (Edit) (3:44)
La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Edit) (3:20)
If I Was Your Girlfriend (Edit) (3:46)
Shockadelica (Edit) (3:29)
Sheila E: Koo Koo (Remix) (5:12)
Deborah Allen: Telepathy (Club Mix)
Telepathy (Instrumental)
Nona Hendryx: Baby Go-Go (7” Algae Mix)
Baby Go-Go (Superstitious Mix)
Baby Go-Go (Dub/Acapella)
Jill Jones: Mia Bocca (Extended Version) (6:04)
Mia Bocca (Dub Version) (5:48)
Sheena Easton: Eternity (Shep Pettibone Mix)
Eternity (Dub Version)
U Got The Look (Long Look) (6:45)
Housequake (7 Minutes Mo’ Quake) (7:15)
Jill Jones: G-Spot (Extended Version) (6:23)
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Edit) (3:39)
Hot Thing (Edit) (3:40)
Hot Thing (Extended Remix) (8:32) – remixed by Shep Pettibone & Junior Vasquez
Hot Thing (Dub Version) (6:53) – remixed by Shep Pettibone & Junior Vasquez
Jill Jones: For Love (4-Play Remix) (7:24)
For Love (Bonus Beats) (4:51)
Taja Sevelle: Wouldn’t You Love To Love Me? (Paisley Park Remix)
Wouldn’t You Love To Love Me? (Jellybean 12” Vocal Remix)
Wouldn’t You Love To Love Me? (Jellybean Dub)
Wouldn’t You Love To Love Me? (Joe Blaney 12” Vocal Remix)
Madhouse: Ten (The Perfect Mix (7:16))

1988
Madhouse: Thirteen (Paisley Park Mix) (7:51)
Alphabet St. (Edit) (2:25)
Alphabet St. (Cont.) (3:14)
Alphabet St. (This Is Not Music, This Is A Trip) (7:48)
Three O’ Clock: Neon Telephone (Extended 12” Version) (6:32)
Glam Slam (Edit) (3:30)
Escape (Edit) (3:31)
Glam Slam (Remix) (8:52) – remixed by Shep Pettibone
Scarlet Pussy (Edit) (4:10)
I Wish U Heaven (Part 1, 2 & 3) (10:15)
I Wish U Heaven (Radio Edit Of Remix) (4:25)
I Wish U Heaven (Single Edit Of Remix) (5:45)
Sheena Easton: 101 (Uptown Version) (8:20)
101 (Def House Mix/Extended Club Version) (7:58)

1989
Mavis Staples: Jaguar (Extended)
Jaguar (Ferocious)
Batdance (Edit) (4:06)
The Batmix (7:15) – remixed by William Orbit & Mark Moore
The Vicki Vale Mix (5:55) – remixed by William Orbit & Mark Moore
Patti LaBelle: Yo Mister (Extended)
Yo Mister (Instrumental)
Yo Mister (Miss Thing Club Version)
Yo Mister (Miss Thing Instrumental)
Yo Mister (Miss Thing Radio Version)
Feel U Up (Short Stroke) (3:42)
Partyman (Video Mix) (6:20)
The Purple Party Mix (6:02)
The Partyman Music Mix (4:31)
Partyman (The Video Mix) (5:40)
Brownmark: Bang Bang (El-Virus Mix)
Bang Bang (Raw Mix)
The Arms Of Orion (Edit) (3:40)
Scandalous (Edit) (4:12)
Scandalous – The Crime (6:24)
Scandalous – The Passion (6:17)
Scandalous – The Rapture (6:39)

And even these:

1982
Pointer Sisters: I Feel For You (3:58)

1984
Chaka Khan: I Feel For You (5:44)

1985
Tina Turner: Let’s Pretend We’re Married (Live Version) (4:22)

1987
Jill Jones: With You (4:00)

1988
Chaka Khan: Eternity (4:03)

1989
Simple Minds: Sign O’ The Times (5:35)


[This message was edited Fri Mar 12 7:17:36 2004 by scififilmnerd]

1 + 1 + 1 Is 3 is derivative of Erotic City


DMSR is derivative of Let's Work and International Lover is derivative of Do me, baby so who cares?

Prince copies himself less than most major rock stars so I don't mind if he does it now and again.

scififilmnerd said:

just think, all that effort and no one will remember it a week from today except yourself.

thebanishedone said:

Because in the 1980's he had his own original new "Funk" sound... Listen for example to the funky guitar in "The Dance Electric", that sound was and still is unique to Prince, hell any funky guitar stuff he did in the 1980's can't even be compared to the standard "Funk" stuff he does now...
Back then he took "Funk" to a whole new level and just tore it up like no other and he had a band that participated and helped him in making that new "Funk" sound to boot...
Nowadays he and his band sound like a James Brown/Sly Stone/Tower Of Power cover band, no originality unlike then cos everything "Funky" Prince does now has already been done better in the 1970's...
It's like he's not Prince anymore but just some 1970's Funk/Soul artist impersonator, his band nowadays only plays the usual, standard 1970's warm "Funk" that everyone played back then...
Prince was the master of stonecold "Electric Funk" and it's too bad he abandoned that sound cos he made some of the most killer songs/jams in the history of modern music with that sound that brought "Funk" to a whole new level...

Neversin.

Neversin said:

sad, but true.

Oi nerd I'm with ya on ya reply.....




Apart from 'Love Song'
[This message was edited Fri Mar 12 14:56:07 2004 by xt1000]

The issue isn't whether the 80's work was funkier (even though I say yes). Prince has made a lot of funky music since the 80's, sadly, much of it is overlooked due to the debacle of the 90's and the inconsistent output in the 00's. But to many, the later work doesn't seem as affecting, original, or daring as the 80's material. But that decision is in the ear of the beholder.


P.S. -- why are the newbies all so snitty?

Neversin said:

BS. Days of Wild it's from the 90's and funkier than anything he did in the 80's-yeah I said it. Turn that shit up to 11 and play it next to anything offa 1999 and you'll see.

manonearth said:

No effort, thanks to copy and paste.


























Oh, you meant the music? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'll remember that.

madartista said:

Unfortunately I agree.

skywalker said:

I like Days Of Wild, but I have to disagree.

It don't come anywhere near Head, Let's Pretend We're Married, All The Critics Love U In New York or Bob George, to name but a few.
[This message was edited Fri Mar 12 19:41:07 2004 by scififilmnerd]

namepeace said:

I dunno, but it's really tiresome.

scififilmnerd said:

actually, namepeace basically just answered his own question: they're newbies. they have much to learn 'round here. that, or the new batch of newbies we've been gettin are somewhat of a bad batch....

manonearth said:

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[This message was edited Fri Mar 12 20:14:36 2004 by Supernova]

Supernova said:

Once again for the deaf...

COPY AND PASTE! NO EFFORT!
[This message was edited Fri Mar 12 20:33:16 2004 by scififilmnerd]

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[This message was edited Mon Mar 15 18:19:34 2004 by goldnigga2000]

scififilmnerd said:

shit, I've been a Prince fan for almost a year and I thought I was really making some progress toward getting through his catalogue. There's no way I will ever get my head around the man with all these songs
How did you guys keep up with it in the 80s? It seems like he can make good music faster than I can listen to it.

scififilmnerd said:

For those who assume too much: it was funny, and still holds the same weight. So I COULDN'T GIVE A MONKEY'S FLYING RED ASS.

ThataintFunky said:

damn..i swear i was just thinkin about this shit too..



i think also...we were funk whores..and he was our peeyump...pimp rag..tootsiepop..cane...the whole nine..



perhaps i speak only for myself though..

also...those of us who grew up listening to prince...did just that..

we grew up

skywalker said:

Dude was talking about "The Rainbow Children", "One Nite Alone" and his current live band...
I agree that the 1993/1994/1995 live versions of "Days O' Wild" were extremely funky, it's one of my favorite songs he did in the 1990's (I love the studio version, but that isn't "Funk"), and he had a band who could play some serious traditional "Funk" with some Hip-Hop influences, but still give me any Camille-style "Electric Funk" over anything he's done in the 1990's, to me that sounds fresher and more timeless than anything since then...

Neversin.