Read about it along time ago in a interview with Tommy B. Has anyone heard a bootleg of it?

WADZILLA74 said:

There is a Japanese laserdisc of it that was officially released, good luck since its out of print. Same with Sacrifice of Victor. I'm sure you can get a VHS copy of it from anyone here. The Brave bootleg label has released a DVD+r version of The Undertaker and Sacrifice Of Victor as well.

Also, 500 pressed audio CDs of The Undertaker were gnnna be given away in 1994/5(?) with every issue of Guitar Magazine. At the time, Prince got a lot of crap since critics said "Prince can't play guitar no more", this was around 1992, when he had a new "hip-hop" flavor to his music. When WB got word of this UNauthorized release, they put a halt to it and ordered ALL 500 copies to be destroyed with laquer. Now, some did survive this and leaked out to the masses. Some of the laquered ones got out too, but are unplayable. Supposely you can clean them so they are playable. I got ONE of the ones that were not laquered, VERY special item in my collection and expensive too

rudedog said:

Thank you!!!!!

rudedog said:

I've always been confused - is the performance on the VHS video the same that is on your audio CD? How can you know whether it was just lifted from video onto the CD?

A lot of people seem to think that the performance on the video IS the Undertaker album - but I don't see how they could do a professional audio recording of a live performance with cameras whizzing past the mikes making noise and interference. I've always wondered whether the Undertaker was a proper studio-recorded album, and the video was merely a performance of this album later, to get the music out to the masses since Warners weren't going to let him release it as a proper album.

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metalorange said:

i was under the impression it was exactly the same...

TheFrog said:

Dolphin is different. Live version instead the TGE track.

Mutiny said:

oh, okay. Is that the only difference? I've got a live dolphin on another boot i think...wonder if that's the same...

TheFrog said:

No during The Ride.
That's about it.

Mutiny said:

cool, thanks

The is one of my favourite bits.

All the vocal bits from Vanessa Macil are not in the album, but it is essentially the same audio. Still, you can tell if yours was lifted from the video, or copied from the original CD by the vocal bits (and, of course, the vomitting not being present on the CD)

I have a copy of this, as I really didn't want to pay full price for this. Prince should definitely think about doing a limited release of this through NPGMC, as it is quite good. Heck, I would buy it again, just for the principle of it!

I used to have that on tape…I can’t find it anymore… along with some others . This is a good one. Pretty much all blues from what I can recall. Definitely worth seeking out. I wasn’t sure of the reason for it’s non release…see above I think.

The Ride is on there…and dolphin (different version than on Gold…I think) and one of my favorites…Poor Goo. It’s a short album, not sure if it would have done too well if it was released to the public via retail…but it is a gem to have.

The video explanations are pretty much dead on. It was filmed similar in style to what he was doing then…the sacrifice of victor and others. Kinda loose and cheap looking (I have seen it only 2ce). I always thought of it as a video companion…again like a lot of the videos he was pushing out those days. Mostly similar in music…with a few differences.

Undertaker has one kick ass version of Bambi. Michael B really went off on the drums.

Are the videos from "Race, 18 and over, and Empty Room" from The Undertaker or The Beautiful Experience?

Meloh9 said:

bambi and honky tonk women on the undertaker vid are right up there with my favourite princey moments.

TheFrog said:

Frog,the whole thing rocks!! like rudedogg said get the Brave DVD people and play it loud.

FanofDaFascist said:

Race is from The Beautiful Experience.18 & Over & Empty room was never released officially.

The video and the CD are basically the same (with a couple of differences). The performance
you see on the video was recorded live to DAT, without any overdubs or additional mixing, and
that recording is what the album was going to be. The sequences with Vanessa Marcil were
filmed seperately later on.

The differences between the released video/laserdisc and the CD are as follows...
The CD version of 'The Ride' is a little longer, as it doesn't have the 'throwing up' scene. So
on CD, this track appears unedited. The version of Dolphin on the CD is different to the TGE
version, but on the video it was replaced with an edited version of the TGE version (though
the visuals are of the CD version as it was recorded).

It's also worth mentioning that both the video and CD only contain some of the tracks recorded
at the DAT taping. The full setlist for this recording isn't known, but 'Peach' and a full version
of 'Zannalee' were definitely played. The released video and the unreleased CD contained the
following tracks:

1. The Ride
2. Poorgoo
3. Honky Tonk Woman
4. Bambi
5. Zannalee (Prelude)
6. The Undertaker
7. Dolphin

metalorange said:

The VHS is pretty much the same as the audio CD minus these little very distinctive details:
1) the Instrumental Intro before The Ride, the whole scene with Vannessa walking to Paisley Park and to the phone is NOT on the audio CD.
2) The Ride is different ONLY because Vannessa throws up in the middle of the song, this is ONLY on the VHS/Laseridisc movie, not the audio CD.

I think thats about it. I don't think there IS a bootleg out there that has it the audio lifted from the movie, if so I'd like to get it. I have a few of them that claim to be the SOUNDTRACK, but its copied from the Undertaker CD not the VHS/Laserdisc movie. Most CD bootlegs are copied from the CD.



Oh, it IS the Undertaker album. It was done in a rehearsal-like setting. The camera has nothing to do with the audio, there is separate equipment to pick up the sound. Cameras keep their distance pretty well, its the ZOOM feature that gives the illusion that makes it seem like the cameras are close. No what you see is what you hear. I've listen to BOTh thousands of times and I hear the same Prince remarks at the same points in both the CD and movie versions. Check it out, especially before The Underataker.
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TheFrog said:

If you mean are all of the songs on the Undertaker different from the RELEASED studio versions, then. DOLPHIN, ZANNALEE, BAMBI and THE RIDE are different. None of those tracks were used as studio version or album versions.

rudedog said I've listen to BOTh thousands of times and I hear the same Prince remarks at the same points in both the CD and movie versions. Check it out, especially before The Underataker.
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Scotty,play sumthin-Prince

There's was a great website about the Undertaker that I saw on housquake.com a while back.I can't find it now.
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FanofDaFascist said:

Race is on The Beautiful Experience. the videos for 18 & Over, Empty Room, Zannalee are on a VHS compilation T did awhile back called the GOTHIC VIDEO COLLECTION or something like that. I think Brave is doing something with those videos to put them on a music video compilation.

rudedog said:

Nope, actually i meant from the video, but thanks - you've answered the question (as have others like Boris, Jedi etc.).

Seems like i'm missing a bit as a result of only having the video, but not masses. Plus I get some free