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PrintableMutiny04 said: On The Ellen DeGeneres Show during "Kiss" he hit TWO sour notes during the first verse! Granted no one sings falsetto like Prince did in the 80s, but he'd never hit sour notes like that! I'm not saying he didn't know his voice failed him, but, damn, time's marchin' on!
And what about singing "I Feel For You" in his baritone range... with whoever that woman was singing backup doubling on the range he used to sing it in...?? I hope he knows when to quit and doesn't become another modern day David Lee Roth disaster. Whatever. The fact is Prince has never sung as well as he does nowadays. Listen to Reflection on the Tavis show...amazing vocal performance. If you had attended any of the shows of the ONA Tour, you would have been stuned by the vocal performances. He was absolutely incredible. I have seen all the tours since 1986, and yes he is at the peak of his powers in terms of voice. That's the first thing that strikes you when you see him nowadays in concerts. Before he was an Ok singer with a very interesting voice. He is using now all the potential of it. And I'm not some kind of "Prince can do-no-wrong" before you start going into this. [This message was edited Fri Mar 12 9:21:47 2004 by VINCENT] | |
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mozfonky said: Mutiny04 said: On The Ellen DeGeneres Show during "Kiss" he hit TWO sour notes during the first verse! Granted no one sings falsetto like Prince did in the 80s, but he'd never hit sour notes like that! I'm not saying he didn't know his voice failed him, but, damn, time's marchin' on!
And what about singing "I Feel For You" in his baritone range... with whoever that woman was singing backup doubling on the range he used to sing it in...?? I hope he knows when to quit and doesn't become another modern day David Lee Roth disaster. I missed the degeneres show so I can't comment on that. I did see the ona dvd and am surprised no one talks about how perfect his voice sounds in it. I have stated that, based on what I saw on the dvd, Prince went from just a very good singer to joining the class of the elites. I always held him below the Vandross's and Cooke's but with what I saw on this concert which is just over a year old, he is now in that class. The voice is not like any other instrument, it is a part of your body, and any body has good days and bad days. Voice is very delicate and influenced by everything you do, from what you breathe,eate,drink to how much and how you speak, something minor can ruin your voice for a few days. Believe me I am a singer, nowhere near prince, but enough to know how fragile and inconsistent a voice can be. It's no like a guitar that you put in a case when you're done and take out again when you need it. It is a part that the musician uses for multiple functions. | |
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TonyWilliams said: mozfonky said: I missed the degeneres show so I can't comment on that. I did see the ona dvd and am surprised no one talks about how perfect his voice sounds in it. I have stated that, based on what I saw on the dvd, Prince went from just a very good singer to joining the class of the elites. I always held him below the Vandross's and Cooke's but with what I saw on this concert which is just over a year old, he is now in that class. The voice is not like any other instrument, it is a part of your body, and any body has good days and bad days. Voice is very delicate and influenced by everything you do, from what you breathe,eate,drink to how much and how you speak, something minor can ruin your voice for a few days. Believe me I am a singer, nowhere near prince, but enough to know how fragile and inconsistent a voice can be. It's no like a guitar that you put in a case when you're done and take out again when you need it. It is a part that the musician uses for multiple functions. Pearls before the swine (That`s want i wanted to say) | |
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Prince has been hitting bum notes on live renditions of Kiss for years. Nothing new there. It's a damn hard song to sing in falsetto all the way through. | |
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Did anyone see when Prince missed the note in The beautiful ones 1985 tour video  | |
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It appears that our idol is getting older.  But I have noticed that sometimes his voice sounds really good, or really bad. | |
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is this clown serious?
Prince's voice has never been better! everyone hits sour notes now and then, could have had soemthing to do with the monitoring, the day, what he ate, drank, the humidity in the studio, time of day... the voice is very sensative and you're an idiot. can't wait for musicology! | |
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FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said: Did anyone see when Prince missed the note in The beautiful ones 1985 tour video
Was just about to say that. | |
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NiKoDeLiCa said: God, talk about picky !
I've seen Prince live over 30 times and his voice was pitch perfect everytime. One "off day" doesnt mean he's losing his voice. YOU'RE losing your mind mofo !!!!!   I could not have said it better myself.RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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His voice also cracks on the beginning of "Erotic City" in the "Lovesexy 88" concert video. I've been singing most of my life, and I have to say it happens to just about everyone now and then, regardless of age.
Of course, I don't think Mutiny04 is actually trying to have a serious discussion about this. I think he's just trying to upset people. Best to ignore his posts in the future. 
Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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Agreed, Mutiny04 is noted for trying to upset people, on the forums as well as in the chatroom. Ignoring him is the best thing for everyone.  RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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I've been blessed to perform with some real talents, in my short time. Lemme tell ya: Even serious singers miss notes. It's no big deal. In fact, it makes a vocal lightweight like me breathe a little easier. | |
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why do people retort to cussing when their hero get's criticized? i don't get it. discuss, just don't disrespect. is that so hard? you people make fun of mj fans for being crazy and too die-hard, but orgers are just as sensitive when it comes to prince-criticism.
i think prince's voice on the ano dvd is in very good condition. he doesn't have that rawness from back in the day, but it's cool. though his last performances do make me think he is losing the best of his voice. maybe i'm wrong, but i'm not adverse to this here statement. don't need no reefer, don't need cocaine
purple music does the same to my brain i'm high, so high | |
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Without reading everything written after the opening remarks, I'd still like to add my two cents. I don't think that Prince is loosing his voice; I think his voice is maturing like evey normal human beings does. BUT I will say this: I do NOT think that Prince does vocal warm ups before he takes the stage and HE REALLY SHOULD. I found his voice getting better and more steady as the Ellen performance went on. I think he just may have been a little nervous and not warmed up. At least he doesn't start off all Phlegmy like the Late Great Dr. Nina Simone. But then again.... Prince is still young. Picture it...Prince at 70. He takes the stage, hocks up a loogie..."I never meant to cause you any sorrow..." lol. My name is Prince  and I want your money | |
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I'm wrong edit.
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To whoever thinks Prince is losing his falsetto,
If you have not seen the ona dvd please do. In it he has a performance of Gotta Broken Heart Again that will blow you away. His range on it is way higher than his normal flasetto voice and he has the audience on it's feet with this performance which is one of the best I've seen from anyone, ever. I was open mouthed just watching this a month ago for the first time, shaking my head in disbelief. Truly awesome. In fact I think I'll watch it right now. If you listen to this your question will be answered. | |
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The funny thing is he hardly ever sings that high ina live performance. Looking back on most of the live stuff I have and have heard, it wasn't that high.
I was actually surprised when he started singing. I said to my wife, "he never sings that high live" I deleted the recording from my TiVo, but they play repeats of Ellen on Oxygen. Iwill try to catch it again and pay more attention. Krstofer | |
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Krstofer said: The funny thing is he hardly ever sings that high ina live performance. Looking back on most of the live stuff I have and have heard, it wasn't that high.
I was actually surprised when he started singing. I said to my wife, "he never sings that high live" I deleted the recording from my TiVo, but they play repeats of Ellen on Oxygen. Iwill try to catch it again and pay more attention. Krstofer That's what I mean. Prince usually doesn't sing that high live because it is difficult to do and lends more credence to the fact that he is better than ever. | |
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Like any other performer out there, there have always been occasions where Prince's voice hasn't quite been perfect.
On the numerous occasions where I've seen him live, I've pretty much always heard him sing a duff note here and there. And I've pretty much always thought that his live renditions of the song Diamonds and Pearls have been a little less than great. Mind you, a lot of that could be because Rosie G's voice has always over-powered his during that song. It's called being human and it's not that often that imperfections are recorded and shown on TV and that's why it's probably been noticed now. It's true that as people get older, their voice gets a little less strong (listen to Tom Jones perform), but at a mere 45 years old, I think Prince has got a long way to go before his voice shows a noticeable difference in quality. As for the odd duff note - well thank goodness he's human and makes mistakes. | |
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Haystack said: Like any other performer out there, there have always been occasions where Prince's voice hasn't quite been perfect.
On the numerous occasions where I've seen him live, I've pretty much always heard him sing a duff note here and there. And I've pretty much always thought that his live renditions of the song Diamonds and Pearls have been a little less than great. Mind you, a lot of that could be because Rosie G's voice has always over-powered his during that song. It's called being human and it's not that often that imperfections are recorded and shown on TV and that's why it's probably been noticed now. It's true that as people get older, their voice gets a little less strong (listen to Tom Jones perform), but at a mere 45 years old, I think Prince has got a long way to go before his voice shows a noticeable difference in quality. As for the odd duff note - well thank goodness he's human and makes mistakes. My biggest question is just the opposite, How does he sing so well so consistently. As a singer there are few times when my voice is in really good form, about 90 percent of the time it's not, due to just everyday living. My question is how does he maintain the consistency that he does. No, he's not perfect every time out but he's always competent. \ Another thing is, his great voice has a tremendous range which may explain why he doesn't always sound great. You see, I notice with my voice the more things I do the less well I do them all. So when you have to juggle the different styles, they each take away from the other. His deep voice affects his falsetto etc.. | |
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Yeah, ol' boy can't squeal and screech like he used to.
Interestingly, however, ol' boy can still squeal and screech. Meanwhile, consider the dulcet tones of Madonna, whose voice sounds worse than ever. Or consider Mr. Elton John, who can't even pretend to sing falsetto on "Crocodile Rock" anymore, and sounds pathetic and horrible when he tries to get away with singing the chorus in his lower register. Things could be far, FAR worse. I think his voice sounds great. Of all the things one could razz on Prince about, this ain't one of 'em. | |
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Mutiny04 said: I have a strong feeling this is why he chose to do the Grammy performance as a duo with the young, fresh, natural female voice of Beyonce (sp?)... though he didn't state that in the Ellen Degeneres interview.
Yeah he's half negaroli.... | |
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Make much of time!
Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, Old Time is still a-flying: And this same flower that smiles today Tomorrow will be dying. The glorious lamp of heaven, the Sun, The higher he's a-getting The sooner will his race be run, And nearer he's to setting. That age is best which is the first, When youth and blood are warmer; But being spent, the worse and worst Time's still succeed the former. Then be not coy, but use your time, and while ye may, go marry; For having lost just once your prime, You may for ever tarry. - Robert Herrick (1591-1674) | |
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