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does Prince really not like U2? "i love U 2 but not the band"
does he really mean that? i know they know each other and all. am i not getting what he means in the context of the song? | |
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I took it as just a silly lyric playing on words. [This message was edited Wed Mar 10 5:23:42 2004 by Universaluv] | |
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i know p was salty when 'the joshua tree' won best album over sign o' the times but i doubt he would actually hold that against the band. it was probably just a joke, like universaluv said, playing with words. | |
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Hard 2 say...
Maybe because they can't really play their instruments, and became nearly pop/social icons. I liked U2 when they first came out, when they were raw, revved, and pissed off. After they softened up, I couldn't stand anything they did. I still have respect though... Have U ever heard that live cut from Dublin of Prince and U2 doing The Cross?? Now THAT's odd. Peace. G "He's a musician's musician..." |
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My understanding is that he actually likes the guys and respects them, but views them as musical rivals since losing the Grammy to "The Joshua Tree". He invited Bono onstage to perform "The Cross" in 1995, so its not too serious a rivalry. P just likes to riff on them (which he does with most artists he is friends with. Heck, he constantly gives shit to Lenny, and they're extremely close.)
The guys in U2 all have professed a major respect for P. In fact, Bono sites a discussion he had with Prince in 1995 as what opened his eyes to the fact that U2 did not own their masters. When their contract came up for renewal, they made sure that they got their master tapes back as part of the deal. 
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Giovanni777 said: Hard 2 say...
Maybe because they can't really play their instruments, and became nearly pop/social icons. I liked U2 when they first came out, when they were raw, revved, and pissed off. After they softened up, I couldn't stand anything they did. I still have respect though... Have U ever heard that live cut from Dublin of Prince and U2 doing The Cross?? Now THAT's odd. Peace. G [snippage! flames removed--Dansa] | |
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pops Joshua Tree in the CD player  | |
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Giovanni777 said: Hard 2 say...
Maybe because they can't really play their instruments, and became nearly pop/social icons. I liked U2 when they first came out, when they were raw, revved, and pissed off. After they softened up, I couldn't stand anything they did. I still have respect though... Have U ever heard that live cut from Dublin of Prince and U2 doing The Cross?? Now THAT's odd. Peace. G you're obviously a crack smoker. | |
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SassyBritches said: i know p was salty when 'the joshua tree' won best album over sign o' the times but i doubt he would actually hold that against the band. it was probably just a joke, like universaluv said, playing with words.
I recall in prince's early 90's RS interview where he said about the grammy"s a quip about being beat by u2 in the best album category. He then said (paraphrase) "wait a minute, I can play that type of music but you will not do housequake". Prince is competitive, and not always in an unfriendly way, but I think he was genuinely dissapointed by losing to u2. Personally, U2 as far as I know sold out after The Joshua Tree. I don't like them much and really don't like Bono and his fat arrogant mouth. I remember him reading an Elvis poem and using the N word. Motherfucker, you got no right using that word, you don't even know the context and if you were to say that in the presence of some brothers they would slap the shit out you're silly ass. | |
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Damn did he say all that? I know the part that making music like U2 is easy, but the rest ... Dayem!   | |
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Neversin said: superstarolly said: I can safely say that whoever you are you are an idiotic, moronic, uncultured, pathetic excuse for a human being! And I'm usually very laid back and believe in the right to free expression. BUT YOU SHOULD SHUT UP AND FUCK RIGHT OFF!
Pfff... Fucking newbies... U2 are great musicians, visionaries, legends and up there in the top 10 acts of all time. I'm not really that into them but I can still see it. For me personally, Prince is the man full stop. However, Still haven't found what I'm looking for, With or Without U, In the name of love, Sunday Bloody Sunday and One are as morally profound, deep, melodic and as inspirationally important as anything Prince has ever done. In fact U2 have found a way to relate complications in the world and personal thoughts and feelings better than Prince ever has. U2 are unique, have their own sound and own niche. They are up there with Prince and the best of the rest.
Go buy The Joshua Tree etc. and get fucking educated, otherwise don't say anything at all! By-the-way, Prince does like the band, has performed with Bono on several occasions and has been known to socialise with them sometimes. Even though I like U2, they haven't made anything relevant or even noteworthy or listenable since "Zooropa", and the songs you mentioned don't hold a candle to anything Prince has recorded around that same timeframe... And no, Prince really doesn't like U2's music, but he digs Bono... Someone asked this at one of the ONA Tour soundchecks... Neversin. ..And there you have it! i mean why would he like them? Just not his thing i guess. |
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 I like U2! 
Maybe they aren't as good now as they once were, but what they're doing now still lasts longer on my player than anything Prince has put out since leaving WB.   FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION!
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ok, so here it is...U2 haven't made a bad record yet. they have made records that the public wasn't ready for at the time of release...hello zooropa and pop...but go back and listen to daddy's gonna pay for your crashed car or numb or please or mofo or...well, you get the point. yeah, their sound was more raw when they were younger...so was prince's...what's the point? go check out passengers: original soundtrack and tell me u2 aren't a tight package. all this electronic shit you're hearing in the mainstream now...well, u2 pulled that shit out back in the early 90's and got trashed for it. it's all good. some people need a trend before they 'get' it. as for bono being...whatever he was called earlier...listen, the man has stood by his personal convictions throughout his entire career. continuously being aware of, and getting involved with, social issues. and not just for show. bono has done so much that has been under the radar as far as media goes. sure, we hear about some of it and no doubt that has helped record sales. but what of unmentioned money that gets donated and the overlooked hours spent brainstorming policies with world leaders? the band almost came to an end because of bono's intensity for the political (as well as changes in musical directions).
the bottom line is, in this world of celebrities/musicians who change spirituality/morals/friends/bandmates/fill-in-the-blanks-here, it has been very exciting and refreshing to watch u2 progress and move forward...in music and meaning. [This message was edited Wed Mar 10 15:33:56 2004 by SassyBritches] | |
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SassyBritches said: ok, so here it is...U2 haven't made a bad record yet. they have made records that the public wasn't ready for at the time of release...hello zooropa and pop...but go back and listen to daddy's gonna pay for your crashed car or numb or please or mofo or...well, you get the point. yeah, their sound was more raw when they were younger...so was prince's...what's the point? go check out passengers: original soundtrack and tell me u2 aren't a tight package. all this electronic shit you're hearing in the mainstream now...well, u2 pulled that shit out back in the early 90's and got trashed for it. it's all good. some people need a trend before they 'get' it. as for bono being...whatever he was called earlier...listen, the man has stood by his personal convictions throughout his entire career. continuously being aware of, and getting involved with, social issues. and not just for show. bono has done so much that has been under the radar as far as media goes. sure, we hear about some of it and no doubt that has helped record sales. but what of unmentioned money that gets donated and the overlooked hours spent brainstorming policies with world leaders? the band almost came to an end because of bono's intensity for the political (as well as changes in musical directions).
the bottom line is, in this world of celebrities/musicians who change spirituality/morals/friends/bandmates/fill-in-the-blanks-here, it has been very exciting and refreshing to watch u2 progress and move forward...in music and meaning. [This message was edited Wed Mar 10 15:33:56 2004 by SassyBritches] could not have said that better myself. | |
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JediMaster said: My understanding is that he actually likes the guys and respects them, but views them as musical rivals since losing the Grammy to "The Joshua Tree". He invited Bono onstage to perform "The Cross" in 1995, so its not too serious a rivalry. P just likes to riff on them (which he does with most artists he is friends with. Heck, he constantly gives shit to Lenny, and they're extremely close.)
The guys in U2 all have professed a major respect for P. In fact, Bono sites a discussion he had with Prince in 1995 as what opened his eyes to the fact that U2 did not own their masters. When their contract came up for renewal, they made sure that they got their master tapes back as part of the deal. I'll buy this response. Bono has had some nice things to say about Prince a few years ago, about how he is more than "a singer and dancer" and is a great artist and musician. As a matter of fact, I remember when the Rolling Stone 1988 end-of-year issue came out and artists were asked to list their fave records. Edge listed Lovesexy at the top of his list, as did Axl Rose. Two members of the 2 hottest rock bands in the world at that time both expressed much love for a Prince LP that was derided by the masses for all the wrong reasons. P.S. -- I hated on U2 for years after Joshua Tree won the Grammy for LP of the year over SOTT, but that was stupid. I eventually went out and bought their greatest hits. They are a legendary outfit. P.P.S. -- Don't sleep on "Touch Me, Hold Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" from the "Batman Forever" soundtrack. That was killer. [This message was edited Wed Mar 10 16:31:25 2004 by namepeace] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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There's no doubt that U2 are among the very top tier pop/rock acts of all time. They have earned everything they have and rightfully deserve a place in the pantheon of legends a couple of chairs over from Prince. And unlike Prince, they have shown that they are still relevant, stilll hungry, still hugely influential, and still capable of writing great, melodic songs that have emotional and lyrical depth. They definitely found a purpose again with All That You Can't Leave Behind, a great record. We are still waiting for Prince to do the same, as he is fully capable. Will Musicology be his next Sign o' the Times-level achievement? We'll see... | |
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Maybe he's pissed that they're a fuck load more popular than he is. "You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "
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I don't like U2 either. Very few songs. | |
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I don't know about Prince but I liked their Earlier stuff and Now I find them Repetitive and Boring. Boy was the Best. They Changed. | |
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I thought Achtung Baby was an awesome record and really liked the direction they were going with Pop, but All THat You Can't Leave Behind seemed like a step back to me, like something they did becuase it was expected of them. Now, they could release an album of them making various fart sounds and it'd go 10X platinum. | |
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From what I have heard over the years, Prince thinks U2 copies his style.
I remember reading an interview where the reporter says Prince was in the studio, and he recorded some technical part, then muttered something to the effect "wait 'till U2 try to copy that". I also remember Prince adding Mayte into the NPG during the D&P era (during the Gett Off remix videos where she is balancing the sword on her head whilst Tony M is talking about how he met Prince in a bathroom), U2 then do "She moves in mysterious ways" with....u guessed it, a belly dancer ( I have heard that the song was based on her, so If Prince says that they copy him, in that sence, I see that they have) Xperience the Peach & Black Podcast: http://peachandblack.podbean.com/
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I love Prince, obviously, but since 1987, U2 have tried to produce different music. Much of their albums post Joshua Tree are quite alternative. I'm definately not saying they're better, but musically they're less mainstream. Green virgin teenager, or filthy rich yuppy. Pussy cat pussy cat, where for out thou puppy |
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"I love u2, but not the band..... bono's pretty cool though"
Prince 2002 "London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"
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JediMaster said: My understanding is that he actually likes the guys and respects them, but views them as musical rivals since losing the Grammy to "The Joshua Tree". He invited Bono onstage to perform "The Cross" in 1995, so its not too serious a rivalry. P just likes to riff on them (which he does with most artists he is friends with. Heck, he constantly gives shit to Lenny, and they're extremely close.)
The guys in U2 all have professed a major respect for P. In fact, Bono sites a discussion he had with Prince in 1995 as what opened his eyes to the fact that U2 did not own their masters. When their contract came up for renewal, they made sure that they got their master tapes back as part of the deal. Wasn't that the other way around? To my understanding U2 always owned their masters, because they made a deal in which they earned less royalties than normal and Bono then told Prince about the importance of owning masters. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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dnaplaya said: From what I have heard over the years, Prince thinks U2 copies his style.
I remember reading an interview where the reporter says Prince was in the studio, and he recorded some technical part, then muttered something to the effect "wait 'till U2 try to copy that". I also remember Prince adding Mayte into the NPG during the D&P era (during the Gett Off remix videos where she is balancing the sword on her head whilst Tony M is talking about how he met Prince in a bathroom), U2 then do "She moves in mysterious ways" with....u guessed it, a belly dancer ( I have heard that the song was based on her, so If Prince says that they copy him, in that sence, I see that they have) Wtf?! That's BS. The Mysterious Ways video was released in November '91 and filmed sometime in September of that year. Get Off was around the same time. U2 haven't copied Prince in any way. U2 are original. Hey look, it's The Artist Formely Known To Sell Records    | |
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Sly said: "I love u2, but not the band..... bono's pretty cool though"
Prince 2002  Bono is cool, because he told him about owning those masters. The band is not, because they sell more than Prince does.You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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dnaplaya said: From what I have heard over the years, Prince thinks U2 copies his style.
I remember reading an interview where the reporter says Prince was in the studio, and he recorded some technical part, then muttered something to the effect "wait 'till U2 try to copy that". I also remember Prince adding Mayte into the NPG during the D&P era (during the Gett Off remix videos where she is balancing the sword on her head whilst Tony M is talking about how he met Prince in a bathroom), U2 then do "She moves in mysterious ways" with....u guessed it, a belly dancer ( I have heard that the song was based on her, so If Prince says that they copy him, in that sence, I see that they have) way off there. i don't know who told you that stuff but they got one over on you. most of the songs on that record (achtung baby) are about edge's wife. they were in the middle of a divorce. not to mention that if the record was released in 1991 and the band had been at work on the record for a few years prior to its release, the song was most likely written before anyone knew who mayte was. [This message was edited Thu Mar 11 10:37:06 2004 by SassyFras] | |
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Abrazo said: JediMaster said: My understanding is that he actually likes the guys and respects them, but views them as musical rivals since losing the Grammy to "The Joshua Tree". He invited Bono onstage to perform "The Cross" in 1995, so its not too serious a rivalry. P just likes to riff on them (which he does with most artists he is friends with. Heck, he constantly gives shit to Lenny, and they're extremely close.)
The guys in U2 all have professed a major respect for P. In fact, Bono sites a discussion he had with Prince in 1995 as what opened his eyes to the fact that U2 did not own their masters. When their contract came up for renewal, they made sure that they got their master tapes back as part of the deal. Wasn't that the other way around? To my understanding U2 always owned their masters, because they made a deal in which they earned less royalties than normal and Bono then told Prince about the importance of owning masters. that is completely correct. prince ASKED bono how they managed to own all of their masters and bono's reply was to cut back on royalties. he basically told prince that you've got to give the label something. let them have the royalties and you can own your music, to do with it what you want. [This message was edited Thu Mar 11 10:39:26 2004 by SassyFras] | |
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I am a veteran U2 fan but I am in the minority, here. I hated Joshua Tree. I remember at the Grammy's when Bono said that Prince should have won the Grammy. I wish I could find the actual quote, but I remember him saying something to the effect that P was more deserving. I also remember P's response about the fact that U2 can't be as funky as he because they can't do a "Housequake," then turn around and do "The Cross." I think he's right. I have never forgiven the academy for dissing P like that because SOTT remains one of P's greatest work, if not the best, IMHO.
I have mad respect for U2 but a lot of their music sounds the same and bland. I like the old angst-ridden U2 sound better. | |
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Doesn't the video for Even Better Than The Real Thing feature a quick image of Prince, among others such as Hendrix, Dylan, and Elvis? Not bad company????? All the gals say hoe if your man's giving up the gold. All the fellas say ruff if you're only giving up the bone. | |
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