Overdetermined causes.

langebleu said:

is that "over determined causes" and if so, please let me know the causes, and if it's "overdetermined causes", whassat mean? Like, they were too determined in their quest for Prince info?

I'm confused. What's nu.

I'm using the term 'overdetermined' with its medical definition (although I hasten to add I don't mean to imply that Prince has a medical condition that provoked his behaviour!).

Here's an example definition:

In psychoanalysis, ascribing the cause of a single behavioural or emotional reaction, mental symptom, or dream to the operation of two or more forces, that is, it is overdetermined

... from:

http://www.books.md/O/dic...nation.php

We have no way of knowing what the motive or motives were behind Prince's actions in filing the claim, other than to suggest that one of the reasons was to claim for violation of copyright and trademark rights. However, if that were the sole reason, then Prince would equally be motivated to claim against everyone else who 'violated' in the same way.

There was therefore at least one other reason why he pursued UPTOWN rather than others who violated in the exact same way (if only to file the action as a trial case). But with Prince refusing to clarify the reasons for his actions further, and no other close sources providing information, we are simply speculating with little supporting evidence.

Prince is a notorious control freak, i don't know what his other reasons may have been but I'm sure control is one of them. That whole control thing is tired, and inexcusable for the most part. I remember wearing my walkman into a concert of his 16 years ago and being told that I would have to take it off. I had nowhere to put it so I hid it in some bushes. I remember feeling that his need for control had touched me in a minor way. ]

mozfonky said:

I agree. I think control was a motivating factor, both in suing Uptown and in suing various internet sites. Apparently, he was/is intent on monopolizing every and any thing that relates to him.

But, you know... At some point in one's life, one has to realize that it plain simply is not possibly to control every aspect of your world. Certainly, it is a lesson I myself have learned - that sometimes you just have to lean back and trust others to do as good a job as you yourself think you would have done.

I recently attended a presentation at Fantasticon 2004, a sci fi convention here in Copenhagen, about a comic book series I edited, co-wrote and drew some issues of for ten years and the presentation was not how I would have done it, but, you now... I leaned back and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a good presentation. The audience seemed to like it too. I've got no complaints.

I think this is something Prince must learn too, if he has not already. (Astrologically, Prince and I have many traits in common. Good and bad. We both have that there rare Hitler-aspect in our horoscopes. )

Were Uptown involved in the circulation/sale of bootleg recordings?

love

Anji said:

Ask them: mail@uptown.se

Anji said:

No

Gav said:

Thanks Gav.

I think that, whatever we think of his opinions, we should all thank Per Nielsen 4 all the in4mation he's given us. Thanx 2 him we can know about every note ever released by Prince & his bootleggers, thanx 3 him we know more about his life & the way he works than we could dream of.

He just hope he won't die b4 Prince so we can get the whole story.
(& i hope they'll both die very old !)