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Thread started 02/28/04 9:50pm

sambluedolphin

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Outcast And Black-eyed Peas RIPP-OFF Princes Music

I had 2 copy (hehe) a cd for a friend, it was Black Eyed Peas (crap). The first thing i noticed was how much the gutair riffs, beats and bass line and style was like Prince. They even stole the Prince scream (the famous 1 awwa!) I never heard a band at this level of success copy dat scream.

Anyone who knows Prince knows outcast have stole Princes funk and become the most successful band in the US. Hey Ya! sounds like some of Princes songs mixed up. The Work was much better. They made commercial cheesy funk.

My point is i feel the hate! I cant believe 2 crappy bands (wont last long) can do exactly what Prince is doin at this point more than eva and be successful. They both have major record labels and are marketed commercial crap.

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Reply #1 posted 02/28/04 10:06pm

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The Work was much better.


You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. eek

I'll take an unbelievably catchy, feel good song like Hey Ya! over an uninspired, boring JB retread song any day.

Your opinion and everything though.

Anyway, what's so bad about seeing artists influenced by Prince? They still have a style that's their own too. The fact that they have the Princely sound in their music is just showing their respect for his old brilliance.
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Reply #2 posted 02/28/04 10:44pm

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PurpleKnight said:

The Work was much better.


[color=mediumpurple:1951dcc89e]You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. eek

I'll take an unbelievably catchy, feel good song like Hey Ya! over an uninspired, boring JB retread song any day.

Your opinion and everything though.

Anyway, what's so bad about seeing artists influenced by Prince? They still have a style that's their own too. The fact that they have the Princely sound in their music is just showing their respect for his old brilliance.[/color]


Well i'm sure u and i definetly speak 4 me, would like 2 c Prince their baskin in dat success rather tahn 2 cappy bands. A true sign of an artists integrity and standard is a prolongitivity.
They wont last 2 years.

Sam 8)
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Reply #3 posted 02/28/04 10:59pm

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PurpleKnight said:

The Work was much better.


[color=mediumpurple:1951dcc89e]You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. eek

I'll take an unbelievably catchy, feel good song like Hey Ya! over an uninspired, boring JB retread song any day.

Your opinion and everything though.

Anyway, what's so bad about seeing artists influenced by Prince? They still have a style that's their own too. The fact that they have the Princely sound in their music is just showing their respect for his old brilliance.[/color]



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Reply #4 posted 02/29/04 2:59am

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sambluedolphin said:

A true sign of an artists integrity and standard is a prolongitivity.
They wont last 2 years.

Sam 8)
Great prediction - but sadly, you are wrong: OutKast (at least spell the group's name correctly) released their first record in 1994, which reached #1 on the rap charts. Their first album, 'Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik', went top 20 and was certified platinum the same year. Their second album repeated that success the following year. Their third album went double-platinum in 1998. Stankonia was even more successful in 2000.

And it's 'longevity', not 'prolongitivity'.
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Reply #5 posted 02/29/04 3:03am

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sambluedolphin said:


They wont last 2 years.

Sam 8)


Outkast already have, and then some. Part of the reason people are showing an interest in Prince again is the fact Andre is so heavily influenced by the man and isn't scared to acknowledge that in interviews. Todays teens barely remember Prince but if Andre mentions him, they'll check him out, same as i did when Prince mentioned Hendrix, JB and Sly back in the 80's.

No need to hate, I think it's kinda great people want to emulate him and his style.
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Reply #6 posted 02/29/04 3:53am

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A true sign of an artists integrity and standard is a prolongitivity.
They wont last 2 years.


They won't last two years....like others said, you're already dead wrong. neutral


Prolongtivity?!?!?

Yes, and they also lack the ingenuitelligence and creativinality if you ask me. thumbs up!
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Reply #7 posted 02/29/04 11:22am

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EVERY1 HAZ HAD AN N-FLOO-NCE IN THIER LIFE IN EVERY FIELD RATHER IT BE MUZIC OR
WRITTING,ACTING OR JUST EVERYDAY LIFE,WHEN PRINCE 1ST CAME OUT ESPECIALLY WHEN PURPLE RAIN WAS RULIN THE CHARTS,CRITICS CUM-PARED HIM 2 JIMI, SLY, LITTLE BITCHARD, JAMES BROWN,HE EVEN SAID HE WUZ INFLOOINCED BY JIMI HENDRIX AND U CAN C THROO OUT "PURPLE RAIN THE MOVIE" WHICH IZ THE GREATEST MOVIE OF ALL TIMEZ, I JUST HAD 2 PUT THAT OUT THERE. PRINCE HAD JIMI HENDRIX TYPE MOVES WITH HIZ GUITAR, JAMES BROWN LIKE DANCE MOVES, SO 4 ANDRE 3OOO OF OUTKAST 2 BE INFLUENCED BY PRINCE I APPLAUD HIM 4 GIVEN PRINCE HIZ PROPS MAYBE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL RESEARCH PRINCE LIKE I RESEARCHED JIMI AND JAMES. IT'S ALL A BIG CIRCLE THEY KNOW PRINCE IZ THE SHIT AND WILL ALWAYZ BE THE SHIZZZNIT, SO LET THEM COPY SUM TIMES IT'S THE BIGGEST FORM OF FLATTERY. SIR NASSTEE AKA HIZ ROYAL NASSTEENESS.
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Reply #8 posted 02/29/04 11:29am

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To the person who started this thread have you even heard the whole Outkast cd? I love Prince but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is an album by an artist at the peak of their creativity, unlike much of what Prince has released in the last decade. Personally I'm not a fan of Black Eyed Peas but I'm sure they have influences other than Prince. And any of their songs I've heard don't remind me of Prince. And even the great and mighty Prince "rips-off" other musicians. Everyone has their influences.
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Reply #9 posted 02/29/04 11:36am

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If I see another person spell "Outkast" wrong chair
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Reply #10 posted 03/01/04 2:26pm

renapisces3372

langebleu said:

sambluedolphin said:

A true sign of an artists integrity and standard is a prolongitivity.
They wont last 2 years.

Sam 8)
Great prediction - but sadly, you are wrong: OutKast (at least spell the group's name correctly) released their first record in 1994, which reached #1 on the rap charts. Their first album, 'Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik', went top 20 and was certified platinum the same year. Their second album repeated that success the following year. Their third album went double-platinum in 1998. Stankonia was even more successful in 2000.

And it's 'longevity', not 'prolongitivity'.


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Reply #11 posted 03/01/04 2:28pm

renapisces3372

sambluedolphin said:

PurpleKnight said:



[color=mediumpurple:1951dcc89e]You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. eek

I'll take an unbelievably catchy, feel good song like Hey Ya! over an uninspired, boring JB retread song any day.

Your opinion and everything though.

Anyway, what's so bad about seeing artists influenced by Prince? They still have a style that's their own too. The fact that they have the Princely sound in their music is just showing their respect for his old brilliance.[/color]


Well i'm sure u and i definetly speak 4 me, would like 2 c Prince their baskin in dat success rather tahn 2 cappy bands. A true sign of an artists integrity and standard is a prolongitivity.
They wont last 2 years.

Sam 8)


Outkast have been around for ten years, where have you been?
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Reply #12 posted 03/01/04 2:34pm

OdysseyMiles

renapisces3372 said:

sambluedolphin said:



Well i'm sure u and i definetly speak 4 me, would like 2 c Prince their baskin in dat success rather tahn 2 cappy bands. A true sign of an artists integrity and standard is a prolongitivity.
They wont last 2 years.

Sam 8)


Outkast have been around for ten years, where have you been?


Not THAT'S the question!!! lol
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Reply #13 posted 03/01/04 3:37pm

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sambluedolphin said:

I had 2 copy (hehe) a cd for a friend, it was Black Eyed Peas (crap). The first thing i noticed was how much the gutair riffs, beats and bass line and style was like Prince. They even stole the Prince scream (the famous 1 awwa!) I never heard a band at this level of success copy dat scream.

Anyone who knows Prince knows outcast have stole Princes funk and become the most successful band in the US. Hey Ya! sounds like some of Princes songs mixed up. The Work was much better. They made commercial cheesy funk.

My point is i feel the hate! I cant believe 2 crappy bands (wont last long) can do exactly what Prince is doin at this point more than eva and be successful. They both have major record labels and are marketed commercial crap.

Sam 8)



Outkast AND Black-Eyed Peas have been around for YEARS...more than two. Black Eyed peas is one of the few rap groups that I've seen travel with a live band doing their music.
Prince wasn't in the studio with ANY of these artists. They accomplished their works on their own. Give them their credit.
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/04 4:08pm

Dicktroit

Learn your music PLEASE Hey ya is a Rip from the Bus Boys " Shoe Shine Boy" from the early 80's there where officially known in the Delious stand up act Eddie Murphy did...and andre 3000 only song that has a Prince feel is "Spread for ME" ya'll reading too much into this for real
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Reply #15 posted 03/01/04 9:43pm

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I remember this example identically in the early 90s. Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, big in America but not UK and most of the countries. At first critics were sayin Vanilla Ice is the new Rap. My point is Out cask are only significantly big in US, not rest of the world. The followin bands mentioned did not and will not break UK, and they just dont have enough diversity and persistance 2 last as long as Prince (Prince broke the UK and Europe immensely after years of top ten hits, then he hit number 1). Dat long haired faggot never mentioned Prince as one of his infulences, and its so obsurdly obvious. I remeber outcast in the late 90s and first thing i felt was they aint nothin special, just another rap/hiphop (song was) band.

I dont go on commercial success, but if u look at all identical bands or artists similar 2 Outcast, they dont make the top 100 best sellin artists. I assure u Prince is in top 40. Prince has made it commercially (he proved dat) and now critically.

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Reply #16 posted 03/02/04 12:26am

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Ruled #1 from the MTV Era - now & forever

Prince + Your Music = Success

If you take Prince producing style, his shock, his sexual personality/shock, his promotion, his looks,etc...

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Madonna
MJ
Lenny
Dave Navarro
Janet
Outkast
Britney
99% of every Keyboard Driven Rap Producers
Etc...
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Reply #17 posted 03/02/04 7:55am

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lol OUTKAST, is a great group and they didn't rip off P's music. You want to talk about ripping off someone elses music, talk about Prince ripping off JB's music.
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Reply #18 posted 03/02/04 8:11am

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sambluedolphin said:



My point is i feel the hate! I cant believe 2 crappy bands (wont last long) can do exactly what Prince is doin at this point more than eva and be successful. They both have major record labels and are marketed commercial crap.

Sam 8)


Actually, OutKast is pretty much here to stay. The Black Eyed Peas, on the other hand, do suck. They only became popular after they stuck a white girl that could sing in their band. lol
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Reply #19 posted 03/02/04 8:37am

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sambluedolphin said:

I remember this example identically in the early 90s. Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, big in America but not UK and most of the countries. At first critics were sayin Vanilla Ice is the new Rap. My point is Out cask are only significantly big in US, not rest of the world. The followin bands mentioned did not and will not break UK, and they just dont have enough diversity and persistance 2 last as long as Prince (Prince broke the UK and Europe immensely after years of top ten hits, then he hit number 1). Dat long haired faggot never mentioned Prince as one of his infulences, and its so obsurdly obvious. I remeber outcast in the late 90s and first thing i felt was they aint nothin special, just another rap/hiphop (song was) band.

I dont go on commercial success, but if u look at all identical bands or artists similar 2 Outcast, they dont make the top 100 best sellin artists. I assure u Prince is in top 40. Prince has made it commercially (he proved dat) and now critically.

Sam cool

Out cask ?

What's that damn song I keep hearing on the UK and Irish airwaves? You know that one that goes "hey-ey ya!" and is currently at number 6 in the UK charts ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp...ndex.shtml ) ???

Oh yes, it's Hey Ya! by a little known American hiphop band called Outkast. I think we can safely say that Outkast have successfully broken in the UK. Like Prince all those years ago, they have a number of albums behind them, and have enjoyed immense popularity in the US prior to their initial success in the UK. I guess you could call "Hey Ya!" their "When Doves Cry".
As for diversity and persistance ? Well, there's plenty of diversity on Speakerboxxx/The Love below, and as they've been around for 10 years,with five big selling albums behind them now, I'd say that makes them pretty persistant. They may not end up lasting as long as Prince, but their output to date certainly augers well for the future.

OK, you don't go on commercial success, and if you're talking about singles charts or bands with one massive selling album, then yes, I agree with you. But I think consistency is the key, if a band like Outkast can consistently release ever increasingly popular albums (as they have) then I think we can safely assume that they are here for the long haul. Of course, this theory falls to pieces as soon as you mention Westlife, but who knows? They may well last for years to come too (although I hope not).

As for Black Eye Peas, I'm with you there. I think they're overrated and crap.

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Reply #20 posted 03/02/04 7:49pm

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AsylumUtopia said:

sambluedolphin said:

I remember this example identically in the early 90s. Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, big in America but not UK and most of the countries. At first critics were sayin Vanilla Ice is the new Rap. My point is Out cask are only significantly big in US, not rest of the world. The followin bands mentioned did not and will not break UK, and they just dont have enough diversity and persistance 2 last as long as Prince (Prince broke the UK and Europe immensely after years of top ten hits, then he hit number 1). Dat long haired faggot never mentioned Prince as one of his infulences, and its so obsurdly obvious. I remeber outcast in the late 90s and first thing i felt was they aint nothin special, just another rap/hiphop (song was) band.

I dont go on commercial success, but if u look at all identical bands or artists similar 2 Outcast, they dont make the top 100 best sellin artists. I assure u Prince is in top 40. Prince has made it commercially (he proved dat) and now critically.

Sam cool

Out cask ?

What's that damn song I keep hearing on the UK and Irish airwaves? You know that one that goes "hey-ey ya!" and is currently at number 6 in the UK charts ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp...ndex.shtml ) ???

Oh yes, it's Hey Ya! by a little known American hiphop band called Outkast. I think we can safely say that Outkast have successfully broken in the UK. Like Prince all those years ago, they have a number of albums behind them, and have enjoyed immense popularity in the US prior to their initial success in the UK. I guess you could call "Hey Ya!" their "When Doves Cry".
As for diversity and persistance ? Well, there's plenty of diversity on Speakerboxxx/The Love below, and as they've been around for 10 years,with five big selling albums behind them now, I'd say that makes them pretty persistant. They may not end up lasting as long as Prince, but their output to date certainly augers well for the future.

OK, you don't go on commercial success, and if you're talking about singles charts or bands with one massive selling album, then yes, I agree with you. But I think consistency is the key, if a band like Outkast can consistently release ever increasingly popular albums (as they have) then I think we can safely assume that they are here for the long haul. Of course, this theory falls to pieces as soon as you mention Westlife, but who knows? They may well last for years to come too (although I hope not).

As for Black Eye Peas, I'm with you there. I think they're overrated and crap.

twocents

Peas be with you.



Well i'm glad u agree with me on black eyed peas. But i'll bet u a tenner (swag, not the 3 Opera singers) they won't last more than 5 years. Ok, they may have been out for a bit, but only 2 songs are house-hold names, which are 'Hey Ya! ' and 'Sorry Mrs.Jackson' (a good song, with sounds their own). Dat song with the circus theme was a failure, and only those 2 songs are known.

In Princes most recent interview (Jan Leno) he says the main artist he is heavily infulenced by is JB beein the main one. Thus he aint ashamed 2 admit it, and refers 2 him always with admiration. But out-fast never admit it, if they did they would probably say dat they would like 2 work with Prince, but he wouldn't.

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