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Thread started 02/27/04 5:51am

NPGLOVER

It just does not pay to doubt Prince

The Grammies proved it. The Tonight Show proved it. Just when naysayers and haters find something irrelevant to harp on like his religion or business dealings, Prince kicks our asses and reminds us why he is STILL the man. He simply can't be beat onstage - even without the splits which I miss so dearly. He is nearly 50 and can still swing it in those heels! Come on, now!

When it looks like he is out of touch and chasing trends, we are brought to the realization that Prince has already been there and was waiting for us. And he has started to come back around the circle - bringing in new from the old; the future from the past. A true genius does this naturally and constantly - many can not keep up or understand at times and this explains why they are not geniuses.

Sure, the tour will kick more ass but when did a Prince tour do anything else? This time it is a all out crusade for real music by real musicians - a concept that declined in popularity along with several real musicians - including Prince. If there is any one pop star that can re-establish this, it is Prince. He is one of the last true artists in popular music.
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/04 5:54am

PurpleKnight

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Well almost no one has doubted his abilties as a fantastic live performer.

It's his current ability to record a great album that ppl doubt.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Reply #2 posted 02/27/04 5:55am

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i still say you're a wanker for starting a thread where you suggested that prince and larry had a baby named beyonce.

so stop calling other people haters already you twofaced freak nod
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/04 5:57am

TheFrog

Doubting Prince's future releases, as with doubting anything, is healthy - at least then you can be pleasantly surprised and you'll never be disappointed

If you don't doubt, you'll either have to be blindly happy with everything, or be disappointed to some extent.
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Reply #4 posted 02/27/04 5:59am

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XxAxX said:

i still say you're a wanker for starting a thread where you suggested that prince and larry had a baby named beyonce.

so stop calling other people haters already you twofaced freak nod

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/04 6:01am

NPGLOVER

XxAxX said:

i still say you're a wanker for starting a thread where you suggested that prince and larry had a baby named beyonce.

so stop calling other people haters already you twofaced freak nod



OK, I know I was buying Prince records when you were just a gleam in your Daddy's eye so you know what you can do for me. I am not a freak that worships Prince therefore I can make a harmless joke. I also am one of the few that defend Larry from the haters because I know he is important to the history of funk and deserves respect.

Again, you on the other hand state that you would pass up an opportunity to see Prince if Larry was there. How much do you have to hate Larry to give up a Prince show?
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Reply #6 posted 02/27/04 6:04am

NPGLOVER

TheFrog said:

Doubting Prince's future releases, as with doubting anything, is healthy - at least then you can be pleasantly surprised and you'll never be disappointed

If you don't doubt, you'll either have to be blindly happy with everything, or be disappointed to some extent.



That is how life works for normal people. They reserve the option and the ability to analyze something once it is revealed to them. Expectations of greatness is what our society is built on. Front running politicians are expected to win elections, the best athletes are expected to triumph in the big game - but if it happens otherwise, there is no obligation of blind acceptance unless youre an idiot.
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Reply #7 posted 02/27/04 6:04am

NPGLOVER

Fhunkin said:

XxAxX said:

i still say you're a wanker for starting a thread where you suggested that prince and larry had a baby named beyonce.

so stop calling other people haters already you twofaced freak nod

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol



you 2 punk
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Reply #8 posted 02/27/04 6:07am

TheFrog

NPGLOVER said:

TheFrog said:

Doubting Prince's future releases, as with doubting anything, is healthy - at least then you can be pleasantly surprised and you'll never be disappointed

If you don't doubt, you'll either have to be blindly happy with everything, or be disappointed to some extent.



That is how life works for normal people. They reserve the option and the ability to analyze something once it is revealed to them. Expectations of greatness is what our society is built on. Front running politicians are expected to win elections, the best athletes are expected to triumph in the big game - but if it happens otherwise, there is no obligation of blind acceptance unless youre an idiot.


Reading is, of course, a worthwhile skill.

There is no obligation of blind acceptance at all. If you fail to doubt, then unless your expectations are met, you either have to then lower your expectations (which would constitute blind acceptance, essentially), or you have to accept that your expectations were not met. Which i would call disappointment.

I suppose i ought to respond to the bit about "great" people. You are of course right, that people who truly have no doubt in relation to whatever it is that is relevant in their instance may become "great" people. They won't be the only people that do, but they might be the people pushing the boat out, yup. Fair play - if your expectations are without doubt AND they are met, then that's fantastic and everyone's a winner. When it comes to Prince, i feel personally that at times he has not lived up to expectation (oh the irony when i first heard Xpectation). So, wary of that historical evidence, I choose to doubt Prince in the knowledge that I can't possibly be disappointed.

That's fair enough isn't it?

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Reply #9 posted 02/27/04 6:09am

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yes, it does.
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Reply #10 posted 02/27/04 6:16am

NPGLOVER

TheFrog said:

NPGLOVER said:




That is how life works for normal people. They reserve the option and the ability to analyze something once it is revealed to them. Expectations of greatness is what our society is built on. Front running politicians are expected to win elections, the best athletes are expected to triumph in the big game - but if it happens otherwise, there is no obligation of blind acceptance unless youre an idiot.


Reading is, of course, a worthwhile skill.

There is no obligation of blind acceptance at all. If you fail to doubt, then unless your expectations are met, you either have to then lower your expectations (which would constitute blind acceptance, essentially), or you have to accept that your expectations were not met. Which i would call disappointment.



I didnt disagree essentially. There is still no obligation to blind acceptance. Where's the point? other than pontification to be right
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Reply #11 posted 02/27/04 6:16am

NPGLOVER

This thread is positivity. Hate if you must
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Reply #12 posted 02/27/04 6:20am

TheFrog

NPGLOVER said:

TheFrog said:



Reading is, of course, a worthwhile skill.

There is no obligation of blind acceptance at all. If you fail to doubt, then unless your expectations are met, you either have to then lower your expectations (which would constitute blind acceptance, essentially), or you have to accept that your expectations were not met. Which i would call disappointment.



I didnt disagree essentially. There is still no obligation to blind acceptance. Where's the point? other than pontification to be right


Well my point is purely personal, and yes - quite pessimistic. I doubt future output - not massively, because i still believe it will be good - because that way i will be pleasantly surprised.

But don't get me wrong - i'm not big on controlling my emotions in this way. I just think that for me, it does pay to doubt prince. Because then i don't have my expectations dashed. That's it really - others may lower their expectations or, indeed, blindly satisfy - that's up to them. Or he may achieve those high expectations - which is cool because then i will be pleasantly surprised.

Now i need to go the men's room, where my expectations are (because of my pessimistic nature) that the toilets will each be blocked. I hope i am pleasantly surprised....

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[This message was edited Fri Feb 27 6:21:08 2004 by TheFrog]
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Reply #13 posted 02/27/04 6:22am

danielboon

ive been goin 2 gigs 4 26 years ive seen em all bla bla bla , as a live performer no one comes near prince no one.

ive seen hundreds of artists and i mean hundreds !!!
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Reply #14 posted 02/27/04 6:27am

XxAxX

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NPGLOVER said:

XxAxX said:

i still say you're a wanker for starting a thread where you suggested that prince and larry had a baby named beyonce.

so stop calling other people haters already you twofaced freak nod



OK, I know I was buying Prince records when you were just a gleam in your Daddy's eye so you know what you can do for me. I am not a freak that worships Prince therefore I can make a harmless joke. I also am one of the few that defend Larry from the haters because I know he is important to the history of funk and deserves respect.

Again, you on the other hand state that you would pass up an opportunity to see Prince if Larry was there. How much do you have to hate Larry to give up a Prince show?



ha. i'm tons older and wiser than you

see?

so take note, fool nod lol
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Reply #15 posted 02/27/04 7:59am

NPGLOVER

TheFrog said:

NPGLOVER said:




I didnt disagree essentially. There is still no obligation to blind acceptance. Where's the point? other than pontification to be right


Well my point is purely personal, and yes - quite pessimistic. I doubt future output - not massively, because i still believe it will be good - because that way i will be pleasantly surprised.

But don't get me wrong - i'm not big on controlling my emotions in this way. I just think that for me, it does pay to doubt prince. Because then i don't have my expectations dashed. That's it really - others may lower their expectations or, indeed, blindly satisfy - that's up to them. Or he may achieve those high expectations - which is cool because then i will be pleasantly surprised.

Now i need to go the men's room, where my expectations are (because of my pessimistic nature) that the toilets will each be blocked. I hope i am pleasantly surprised....

wink

e
[This message was edited Fri Feb 27 6:21:08 2004 by TheFrog]



OK sounds like a personal problem to me
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Reply #16 posted 02/27/04 8:05am

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So far his appearances have been pretty lame. I would love to see just ONE good performance or video.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #17 posted 02/27/04 8:10am

TheFrog

NPGLOVER said:

TheFrog said:



Well my point is purely personal, and yes - quite pessimistic. I doubt future output - not massively, because i still believe it will be good - because that way i will be pleasantly surprised.

But don't get me wrong - i'm not big on controlling my emotions in this way. I just think that for me, it does pay to doubt prince. Because then i don't have my expectations dashed. That's it really - others may lower their expectations or, indeed, blindly satisfy - that's up to them. Or he may achieve those high expectations - which is cool because then i will be pleasantly surprised.

Now i need to go the men's room, where my expectations are (because of my pessimistic nature) that the toilets will each be blocked. I hope i am pleasantly surprised....

wink

e
[This message was edited Fri Feb 27 6:21:08 2004 by TheFrog]



OK sounds like a personal problem to me


Are you for real? lol
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