SEXUALCHOCOLATE said:

That's because he hasn't played there in nearly 12 years. Prince sold around 20,000 tix in Sydney. According to reports, the second night was only 2/3 full.

I guess people didn't see this report at the club



Think about it - sells out a concert in 90 seconds and you don't think he can still sell tickets. Just watch the hype machine crank up again.

didnt most of the hit and run shows sell out in no time ? i mean, if i remember correctly, it was incredible the way it sold out so fast, and it was in an arena, go figure btw, the ONA tour sold out as well --- i say, MORE POWER TO HIM

alandail said:

So I guess you are saying the Fillmore has 14,000 seats? I don't think so. And stop with your "Straw Man" logical fallacies. No one said that Prince can't sell tickets...we are saying that he can't consistently sell out arenas around the country.

Exactly. Prince is very capable of selling tickets these days, but only when he markets himself sparsely.

Keep dreamin'. Prince isn't anywhere near as popular as he used to be. The Paramount Theater in Seattle only holds 2,800. If he can only sell it out in an hour and not a couple of minutes, then that's lame. He played the Gorge in '97 and the Seattle Center Coliseum in '88 to over 10,000.

Btw, none of MJ's albums have flopped apart from Blood On The Dance Floor.[/quote]

I realize he is not a megastar anymore. I'm merely speculating. I don't personally care one way or the other, although I do like to see Prince do well rather than not. Are you in seattle here? You're probably right about the paramount being a small venue. We'll see if he tries to play the coliseum again. And as for Mj's albums not being flops, I'm talking relatively, and critically. And even by the numbers. From what I understand his last album was a total flop. It cost millions to produce and didn't recoup costs, that's a flop. What, do you love the gloved one? You might be his only fan left.

alandail said:

LOL! You know how small the Fillmore is? It seats 1,300! It would be incredibly lame if he couldn't sell it out in a minute or two.

EvilWhiteMale said


I'll pray 4 u Evil

mozfonky said:

I'm up north in Vancouver.

If he plays Seattle, I think Prince will either play the Key Arena (17,000) or the Everett Events Center (10,000)

Btw, Invincible has sold 8 million copies worldwide. I'm aware that he spent a ton of money on it and didn't make a profit but IMO with the amount it sold, that's not a flop. And no, I'm not a big fan of MJ's music, he's ok though. MJ has several times more fans than Prince, that's for sure.

I don't know about all this nonsense being spouted around here, but I do know this___ if Prince comes anywhere near Detroit it's a guaranteed sell out! So come on to the 'D' Prince and show 'em how it's done!

I'm up north in Vancouver.

If he plays Seattle, I think Prince will either play the Key Arena (17,000) or the Everett Events Center (10,000)

Btw, Invincible has sold 8 million copies worldwide. I'm aware that he spent a ton of money on it and didn't make a profit but IMO with the amount it sold, that's not a flop. And no, I'm not a big fan of MJ's music, he's ok though. MJ has several times more fans than Prince, that's for sure.[/quote]

Canadian huh, I surrender, I surrender. Just kidding fella, I'm athabascan Indian, lot's of us up there. Anyway, I'm sure Mj has more fans and people who hate his guts than prince. Mj is great though I'm just kidding. For me, all the uproar of the last year has just made me look closely again at the great work he has done. I don't put him in Prince's league as an artist but he's genuinely very good, and I happen to think his best albums are Off the Wall and History, the parts that were new. I saw Prince at the key arena or whatever it was called at the time, (Seattle Center arena) and the place was packed and Prince put on the best show I've ever seen. I guess the overiding issue here, is that record sales and live sales don't always correspond.

Yeah but that's cause MJ's got that dedicated fanbase of little boys that he keeps inviting to sleep over.

mozfonky said:

That's a good point. Sometimes record sales and concert attendance with certain artists are quite different. But with Prince, since he hasn't had a major/hit album in many years, I just don't think he would be able to sell out any arena at any given moment, it's just not going to happen for the above reasons stated in this thread. For example check out ticketmaster.com's site and click on the Bryce Jordan Center show and try and find the best tickets available and see what you get? I found that the floor is sold out but there's still extremely good tickets left in the plaza section closest to the floor - the place is nowhere near full. However, currently, Prince's largest concert markets in the North America are: Detroit, LA, San Fran, Atlanta, Chicago, Montreal, Toronto, Washington, Vegas & of course, Minneapolis. These cities will be at least 3/4 full or even eventually sell out. And I do think it's a good idea for him on this tour to hit markets like Bossier City, Oklahoma City, Reno, Columbia, etc., where he hasn't ever played or hasn't played in a long time because IMO they have a better chance at filling up come showtime...

PurpleKnight said:

I ain't gonna touch that one!

TheGoldExperience said:

Nobody ever sold it out that quickly before.

AndGodCreatedMe said:

Be sure to pray to the Fire God.

The more this subject is debated, the more I believe they'll be an opening act announced Tuesday.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

This is true, BUT these shows were announced VERY last minute and had basically no publicity. The Jam Of The Year tour did sell-out one nite at the Target Center and was 3/4 full the 2nd nite. With the publicity machine working how it right now for P, he should hopefully do better in MPLS.

Then again, he may not even play here this tour so we may never find out

This is simple really

This tour has a big sponsor.

Americans believe almost ANY hype u throw at them

This tour will be hyped intensely on all fronts.

Americans will go to the concerts.

simple.

If Clear Channel is backing this tour, is there any information on "instant" CD's of that night's performance being made available as you're leaving the concert?

Pearl Jam was starting to do that . . . they record the concert and immediately have CD's available to buy (or they take your address and mail it to you within a week).

Just curious . . . that would be a great move for Prince, especially since he's doing greatest hits again.

endorphin74 said:

i know...that dirty dawg.

TheGoldExperience said:

Not in the Gelredome please. I don't wanna have only one show in the Netherlands. But I can still go to Germany (NRW) it's not to far.

NPGLOVER said:

KQRS (local radio station) was reporting that Prince only sold less then 300 tickets to the gig which was the reason for the cancellation. If you remember all the people who had Celebration passes were going to get in free but the 300 tickets certainly weren't going to pay the rent for the building:grin:

They said it was because of time problems setting up the stage but that was obviously bullshit. They can bring a stage across the country in a day but Prince can't set it up down the road.

lovemachine said:

sure wasn't.


i still don't understand how they could tell a bald-faced lie like that...chanhassen is only like...what, 45 minutes outside of mpls? "logistical problems" my left boob! it wouldn'tve hurt if someone simply said, "we didn't get enough sales for the orpheum show so we're doing the show out at paisley"--a simple statement like that would've sufficed, y'know.

hopefully the cat wrote a proverbial raincheck and will do a show here, but i'm doubtin it.

EvilWhiteMale said:

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You said a lot of stupid things on this board but to imply that any of those artist puts on a better show than Prince is the crack head comment of the decade.

Some of those artist don't even bring live music with them when they tour. They are just not on Prince's level.

EvilWhiteMale said:

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No, they have a high tolerence for a good performer and Larry has not toured with Prince as a member of his band in over 3 years. The guy shows his face every now and then. Stop living in the past.

laurarichardson said:

Well that's like, your personal opinion. At least they can still sell out shows and keep their fans happy. When I come out of a Prince concert, I hear lots of complaints about how fucking lame Prince was and how we want our money back. See things however you wanna see them. Ignorance is bliss, ain't it?

laurarichardson said:

I'm not living in the past at all, I just appreciate the past. At least I don't suck the purple cock all the time and get personal when someone disses an artist I like. I find that obession really disturbing.

EvilWhiteMale said:

selective hearing?

EvilWhiteMale said:

I've been to see Prince at Lovesexy, Act II (twice), Jam of the Year, Hit and Run, and ONA and I've never heard anyone say this leaving a Prince concert. On the contrary, after ONA, I heard people who hadn't bought any Prince music in a long time saying they needed to go buy the Rainbow Children.