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Reply #30 posted 02/21/04 11:42am

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4 what it's worth...in Europe every concert in arena's or stadions is sold out in minutes....I know that if he's coming 2 holland....5/6 concerts? SOLD OUT!!!(in hours)nod and holland is soooo small....so what's wrong with u americans?? disbelief


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I went to a Prince gig in Sheffield(England) in '95 and a 3rd of the arena was empty. But Sheffield is full of idiots wearing shellsuits with no taste in anything.
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Reply #31 posted 02/21/04 11:49am

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How many people are behind us NPG Club members isn't important.


Awwww....that's kinda cute biggrin

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Reply #32 posted 02/21/04 11:50am

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I went to a Prince gig in Sheffield(England) in '95 and a 3rd of the arena was empty. But Sheffield is full of idiots wearing shellsuits with no taste in anything.
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Reply #33 posted 02/21/04 11:52am

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I would find it embarrising if he did not sell enough tickets to even make the venue look nearly full. I enjoyed the excitement of people (non-members) scrambling to buy tickets for the theatre shows from ONA, but can he still to arena's everwhere/every night, I hope so but I know he wont. One night dates in Europe will do well but there were tickets still avaliable at Wembley Arena during the Newpower Soul tour in 98.
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Reply #34 posted 02/21/04 11:56am

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An 'In the Round' concert would be killer but I too have doubts about his being able to fill seats these days.

During the summer of 2002 (ONA tour) he was unable to sell enough tickets for a show at a smaller venue in his hometown of Minneapolis and the show was cancelled.
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Reply #35 posted 02/21/04 11:57am

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No, he can't sell out arenas in 95% of cities. Maybe he could in NY or SF, but that's even speculative.

I didn't think he was going to be an "arena tour", but as others have pointed out, it is IS "in the round" and perhaps logistically he needs to be in an areana to make this work. I still don't think he will come close to selling out most cities, but the shows will still probably be very profitable for him.

So it looks like I was wrong with my initial assessment of the situation and he will be forced to play arenas, despite ticket sales, because of the "in the round" concept.
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Here in Denver on the last couple of tours Prince sold very well. On the JOTY tour he sold 18,000 and on the Hit and Run tour he sold out a 6,000 seater in 3 mins. He will sell out when he plays here.
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Reply #36 posted 02/21/04 12:02pm

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alandail said:

This thread starts out with the assumption that Prince can't have a hit song/hit album behind this tour. I think in a matter of weeks we'll all see just how wrong that assumption is.


That depends on what you call a "hit". Is a Top 40 song a hit? I don't even think he'll do this well though.


top 10 on multiple charts and a top 10 album.
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Reply #37 posted 02/21/04 12:30pm

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RupertZ said:

top 10 on multiple charts and a top 10 album.


It's definitely a possibility with a major behind him. I've got a couple non-Prince fan reactions to Musicology, and it's all been pretty positive. A catchy song with radio potential. After 25 years in the game, I think that's an accomplishment. Many seem to believe that music has passed him by, but I just don't see it. It would seem to me real fams would be rooting for a comeback, not trying to shoot one down.
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Reply #38 posted 02/21/04 12:42pm

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I don't think Prince will even sell out in Minneapolis. MPLS has neve really been THAT supportive of him and his work. For the Lovesexy tour he only sold out the first show. His last show at the Xcel in St.Paul did not sell out either.
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Reply #39 posted 02/21/04 1:25pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Just proves how dumb most music fans are. Why wouldn't you want to see him live? He is the mack; live, nobody can touch the boy.



I don't wanna see him live cuz my last few experiences were shit. His shows were terrible and very disappointing. This is not the Prince of the Lovesexy shows, this is something much much worse.




This guy must be the end all be all of instigators or somethin. What happened did Prince like piss on u or something. What a hater
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Reply #40 posted 02/21/04 1:54pm

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Clear Channel is behind this tour and there will be some major corporate sponsorship involved. He will do many of his hits and publicity for the tour will be everywhere. Also expect more television performances besides the upcoming Leno, R&R HOF, and Ellen shows. Between his media rounds and the well-financed publicity campaign, he will sell out most every venue.
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Reply #41 posted 02/21/04 1:59pm

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Sartoria said:

Between his media rounds and the well-financed publicity campaign, he will sell out most every venue.



He couldn't even sell out most every venue on the Lovesexy Tour. That was in 1988! He sure ain't gonna do it now.

The tour will still be profitable for him though, because he's going to charge a lot for tickets and won't spend a lot on the stage setup, etc. He could probably just sell out half of these venues and still make a huge profit.
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Reply #42 posted 02/21/04 2:03pm

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Plus, as I mentioned in another thread, he is signing with J Records and that publicity via Clive Davis will be much better orchestrated than before. All this will be disclosed at the Press Release gathering later in the week.
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Reply #43 posted 02/21/04 2:09pm

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Sartoria said:

Clear Channel is behind this tour and there will be some major corporate sponsorship involved. He will do many of his hits and publicity for the tour will be everywhere.


Actually this tour is promoted by AEG: Concerts West. For the most part, it seems like they are avoiding Clear Channel bldgs.

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Reply #44 posted 02/21/04 2:10pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:
Well in my opinion, a good show is giving the audience what they want, and not disappointing them.



I've seen him now abt 20 times and he has NEVER no no no! disappointed me!!!!
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Reply #45 posted 02/21/04 2:18pm

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lmas said:


This guy must be the end all be all of instigators or somethin. What happened did Prince like piss on u or something. What a hater



Prince pissed on me by giving his stage to Larry and hiding in the back. I lost quite a few dollars on that scam. Plus the stuff he did was pretty lame.

Anyway's, I'd rather be a hater than someone who sucks Prince's dick everytime he does something.
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Reply #46 posted 02/21/04 2:19pm

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AndGodCreatedMe said:

EvilWhiteMale said:
Well in my opinion, a good show is giving the audience what they want, and not disappointing them.



I've seen him now abt 20 times and he has NEVER no no no! disappointed me!!!!




Well, you must have a high tollerence for bullshit. More power to ya.
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Reply #47 posted 02/21/04 2:30pm

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I think he would sell just fine. I remember how big a joke michael jackson was/is and how quickly he would sell out anyplace in the world even though his album may have flopped. Prince is a megastar, I know it's from nearly a decade and a half ago but I don't think he will have a problem selling out the same place he did when I saw him on the lovesexy tour. Especially if he does something stupid like try to capitalize on the 20th anniversery of Purple Rain and get the old band back together. I think he should play it straight and be himself but it would probably make more sense to be an oldies act right now. Hard to say though, you never know how people will act. I remember when he came to seattle on the ona tour and he sould out in about an hour or so and those tickets were ridiculous. We'll see, I'll be there if he brings himself.
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Reply #48 posted 02/21/04 4:10pm

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lets remember something prince didnt even sell out the last ona show dec 2002, and that was at the alladin which is small (7,000 capacity) compared to arenas, he thinks by retiring his hits and making public announcements and appearances that everyone is gonna come out the woodwork, i think theres gonna be alot of empty seats on this tour, i might not even attend which is something crazy for me, i mean to see prince in ona in a small venue, then to throw an arena at me, i think prince is snubbing his major fams and appelaing to the lukewarm fams, trying to get them to come out, thats what the grammys were for, thats what jay leno will be about, the hits, hits. hits. hits, no sound checks, no intimacy, no freshness, this might end up being an embarassment, i hope not but it may be, i for one am not excited about this tour, and thats strange for me, but we'll see, i might be the first one on line when tickets drop
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Reply #49 posted 02/21/04 4:15pm

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Well if Prince sells out arenas in Europe, a shit load of people must have bought the ticket and then not bothered to turn up for Jam of the Year and Gold (on the nights I attended and the nights which were reviewed in a couple of UK broadsheets).
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Reply #50 posted 02/21/04 4:15pm

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EverlastingNow said:

RupertZ said:

No, he can't sell out arenas in 95% of cities. Maybe he could in NY or SF, but that's even speculative.

I didn't think he was going to be an "arena tour", but as others have pointed out, it is IS "in the round" and perhaps logistically he needs to be in an areana to make this work. I still don't think he will come close to selling out most cities, but the shows will still probably be very profitable for him.

So it looks like I was wrong with my initial assessment of the situation and he will be forced to play arenas, despite ticket sales, because of the "in the round" concept.
[This message was edited Sat Feb 21 6:52:47 2004 by RupertZ]



Here in Denver on the last couple of tours Prince sold very well. On the JOTY tour he sold 18,000 and on the Hit and Run tour he sold out a 6,000 seater in 3 mins. He will sell out when he plays here.


So, he sold out the Fiddler's Green Amphitheater in' 97 to 18,000? I doubt that because if that was the case then he would've played the Pepsi Center in '01 instead of playing the Magness Arena to 5,000. Then that tells me that he would've only played to 3,000 tops in '02 if he had played there on the ONA tour.

IMO, this year, Prince will be scheduled to play the Pepsi Center but it won't sell out.
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Reply #51 posted 02/21/04 4:18pm

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TheFrog said:

Well if Prince sells out arenas in Europe, a shit load of people must have bought the ticket and then not bothered to turn up for Jam of the Year and Gold (on the nights I attended and the nights which were reviewed in a couple of UK broadsheets).
[This message was edited Sat Feb 21 16:16:50 2004 by TheFrog]


I should've said most of the arenas he perfoms in in Europe, he can sell out.
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Reply #52 posted 02/21/04 4:39pm

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During the summer of 2002 (ONA tour) he was unable to sell enough tickets for a show at a smaller venue in his hometown of Minneapolis and the show was cancelled.

yeah, the show over at the orpheum theater...i live only a few blocks from there and i remember seein his name up on the marquee n'everything. i was like "hey, cool!" cuz although i ain't a member of the club (plus i wouldn'tve been able to afford the tix if i wanted to go), i could've ran into a few friends that were in town for the celebration. but, they cancelled the orpheum show and did the show over at paisley park instead.

it's kinna disappointing, really...can't even sell out a show in your own fuggin hometown. hmm
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Reply #53 posted 02/21/04 4:46pm

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PrimordialOoze said:

During the summer of 2002 (ONA tour) he was unable to sell enough tickets for a show at a smaller venue in his hometown of Minneapolis and the show was cancelled.

yeah, the show over at the orpheum theater...i live only a few blocks from there and i remember seein his name up on the marquee n'everything. i was like "hey, cool!" cuz although i ain't a member of the club (plus i wouldn'tve been able to afford the tix if i wanted to go), i could've ran into a few friends that were in town for the celebration. but, they cancelled the orpheum show and did the show over at paisley park instead.

it's kinna disappointing, really...can't even sell out a show in your own fuggin hometown. hmm



Was that the reason for the cancellation? I was at Xenophobia. I dont recall that lack of ticket sales being the reason for cancellation. Such a change is usually made well in advance of the show date. I recall it being a last minute thing. Oh well, I didnt care. I was down front for all seven nights in Paisley Park and it was the most amazing sheet I ever saw!
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Reply #54 posted 02/21/04 5:53pm

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I think he would sell just fine. I remember how big a joke michael jackson was/is and how quickly he would sell out anyplace in the world even though his album may have flopped. Prince is a megastar, I know it's from nearly a decade and a half ago but I don't think he will have a problem selling out the same place he did when I saw him on the lovesexy tour. Especially if he does something stupid like try to capitalize on the 20th anniversery of Purple Rain and get the old band back together. I think he should play it straight and be himself but it would probably make more sense to be an oldies act right now. Hard to say though, you never know how people will act. I remember when he came to seattle on the ona tour and he sould out in about an hour or so and those tickets were ridiculous. We'll see, I'll be there if he brings himself.


Keep dreamin'. Prince isn't anywhere near as popular as he used to be. The Paramount Theater in Seattle only holds 2,800. If he can only sell it out in an hour and not a couple of minutes, then that's lame. He played the Gorge in '97 and the Seattle Center Coliseum in '88 to over 10,000.

Btw, none of MJ's albums have flopped apart from Blood On The Dance Floor.
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Reply #55 posted 02/21/04 6:10pm

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I've got a REALLY bad feeling about this.

I think Prince is getting way ahead of himself and assuming he has a hit album on his hands to book the arenas like this.

The sad fact of the matter is, Prince compltely destroyed his public profile with the change to prince.

Many, many ppl stopped caring about him once he did that.

Now he has his name back and it looks like the silly war against the record industry is over, but is he now still capable at 45 of producing a hit album on his own to attract the fans back?

I honestly just don't think he is.
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Reply #56 posted 02/21/04 6:35pm

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I've got a REALLY bad feeling about this.

I think Prince is getting way ahead of himself and assuming he has a hit album on his hands to book the arenas like this.



He is not assuming he will have a hit.

He is not assuming he will sell out many of the arenas.

He IS assuming that he will make lots and lots of money from the tour.

I think he is right.
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Reply #57 posted 02/21/04 6:36pm

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By the way, this is not a tour for his hardcore fans. This is probably a tour designed to make money. The ONA tour was great with the more intimate venues and soundchecks and aftershows, etc. That was a great tour for the hardcore fans. This tour is mainly designed to be profitable...nothing wrong with that, but it looks like it is the case.
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Reply #58 posted 02/21/04 6:47pm

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This tour will be big. It's a different format to ONA. There's alot of hits here and alot of people will come who have heard the reviews of late, as well as the TV appearances -
He sold in down here in Australia late last year remember - 24,000 seats in Sydney alone.

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Reply #59 posted 02/21/04 6:57pm

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Well he'll have the marketing machine behind him, and the symbol crap is past him now.

I still don't think he'll sell that well in the U.S. though.
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