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Reply #30 posted 02/20/04 2:43am

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any1 have it out yet?????
ignorance isnt bliss its....its......its.......a another bit word.......
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Reply #31 posted 02/20/04 2:56am

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FutureShock said:

Maybe I missed it, but why didn't anyone say before now that Musicology is based on the same samples that have been on NPGMC for nearly a year now.

Man pay attention, this was already confirmed back when that video was being shot...

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Reply #32 posted 02/20/04 4:54am

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Well, I liked the performance but thought there would be more intereaction with Wendy. Boy does she look ruff.

Princes interviews are so boring and dull now. He seems to have a hard time getting his words out and stumbles alot. Makes what he says unclear. Still on the music bus. rundown.

Why not just talk about your current music and plans for an album and tour.
PROMOTE YOURSELF for this year. Quit rehashing the past.
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Reply #33 posted 02/20/04 5:09am

Johnb

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Well.
I gotta say right off the bat that, I haven't liked much of what Prince has done since about '96 or so, musically, but tonight's performance of "Reflection" took my breath away. Reminds me a lot of some of the stuff on "The Truth", and to see him up there with Wendy was the nicest surprise I've had this year. She belongs right next to Prince, just playing her guitar. I don't care what anyone says.

On Musicology: I'll give this track, at least the part aired tonight, 4 out of 5 stars. The groove is similar to "The Work", but it's like whatever he was trying to do with "The Work" all fell into place on this one. I don't like "the work" much, but "Musicology"..... Damn, I dug it. I hope that 7" is available in stores.....


I've been a fan for many years - last nights acoustic performance of Reflection was amazing - the song is one of Prince's most personal and emotive pieces - the acoustic version suited the song (which has such beautiful lyrics, I'd never really paid attention to them before... and the simple guitar strum was so much better than the original studio version which a fell lacks the intimacy and vocal dynamic of last nights performance (cannot wait for the download from NPG). Wendy was clearly chocked up during the song... I think this 'event' (Prince and Wendy together again on stage) was about much more than two former musicians playing together again ... I think / hope they've worked out whatever isues they had with each other and have found some peace. Playing together was probably a big first step in the healing process, it may lead to future work / projects ... or may just mean that they get to hang again as they both get older and talk about those crazy years 1983 - 88 - either way something good has come of it.

(Saying all that I'd put the Roadhouse Garden project as much more likely given that they are talking... we can hope ... it was never going to be without Wendy's participation).

Musicology is a 3 / 5 - not sure it has great Radio potential - Prince does'nt always pick the best lead of single - it may benefit from a great remix - but I'm sure the album is going to be cool - the whole concept of the science and art of music says to me that we can expect a diverse and interesting album that pays tribute to all of Prince hero's (JB, Sly, Hendrix, Santana, Joni...) - we could be in store for a very exclectic mix - I really hope that is the idea... Reflection is pure Joni, Musicology - James Brown... What does everyone else think...?
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Reply #34 posted 02/20/04 5:17am

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SANSKER7 said:

Well, I liked the performance but thought there would be more intereaction with Wendy. Boy does she look ruff.

Princes interviews are so boring and dull now. He seems to have a hard time getting his words out and stumbles alot. Makes what he says unclear. Still on the music bus. rundown.

Why not just talk about your current music and plans for an album and tour.
PROMOTE YOURSELF for this year. Quit rehashing the past.

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"Princes interviews are so boring and dull now."
Compared to all of the intereviews he did before? (LoL)
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Reply #35 posted 02/20/04 5:33am

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Why did they cut off the video at the end? I was just starting to groove on the song and then the credits abruptly popped up for the end of the show. Did this happen to anyone else?
[This message was edited Fri Feb 20 5:33:31 2004 by NPGLOVER]
...cause FACE said so!!!
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Reply #36 posted 02/20/04 5:35am

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is there a link where i can watch the show, or even the video of MUSICOLOGY

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Reply #37 posted 02/20/04 5:38am

NPGLOVER

SANSKER7 said:

Well, I liked the performance but thought there would be more intereaction with Wendy. Boy does she look ruff.

Princes interviews are so boring and dull now. He seems to have a hard time getting his words out and stumbles alot. Makes what he says unclear. Still on the music bus. rundown.

Why not just talk about your current music and plans for an album and tour.
PROMOTE YOURSELF for this year. Quit rehashing the past.



All heard was Prince answering the questions that Tavis asked. He asked about the Grammies and the music business so Prince obviously had to talk about them to answer. Tavis Smiley is not a music program: it is a forum for discussing issues and Prince is involved in a few
...cause FACE said so!!!
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Reply #38 posted 02/20/04 5:42am

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i'm definitely passin on this one tomorrow night, methinx....from the looks of things, it wouldn't be worth stayin up late to watch anyhow. nod
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Reply #39 posted 02/20/04 5:47am

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nobody's mentioning the funniest part of the interview....."old skin" LOL
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Reply #40 posted 02/20/04 5:57am

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Yeah, I thought new song sounded classy and great. Like old-fashioned vid and presence of Maceo. Not cheap looking at all!! Prince very calm and articulate, loved how smart he showed he was, not much for new, insightful comments though. What did he play at the start, just a bit of acoustic, missed a bit, also, what is Reflection off of. Glad Prince interacted a bit with Weny (couple eye contacts). Enjoyed that




I saw Wendy staring at Prince, but I dont remember him ever looking at her.
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Reply #41 posted 02/20/04 5:58am

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It was great to see Prince being interviewed. Thought some good questions were asked, and he answered them fine. Always seems a bit nervous, and trying a little too hard to seem intellectual or something...but watch him perform and who cares! He's amazing. Reflection was beautiful, his voice is incredible. Brought tears to my eyes, as seeing him always does. Thanks to Prince for sharing his talent with us, and letting us grow along with him.

Can't wait for more and hopefully to see him live again.

Peace.
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Reply #42 posted 02/20/04 6:02am

unlucky7

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The show was great!!!! It was just too short. I loved the song that he did with Wendy. But I must admit that she did look old. Isn't she like 7 or 8 yrs younger than P?



Thats the same thing I thought about. She did look older.
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Reply #43 posted 02/20/04 6:17am

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alexandernevermind said:

nobody's mentioning the funniest part of the interview....."old skin" LOL


hhhhheeyyy - i was going to say that wink too cute "old skin, nobody wants to see that . . ." Prince was evasive but cool . . .

seeing him and Wendy together was priceless . . . they both looked a little choked up -

the Musicology video had a message - that's for sure~

- the little boy in his room re-playin the record so he could get the chords "just right" on his guitar - (like our Princey did when he taught himself to play) i was surprised to see a Hendrix pic taped in the record player and not Santana though . . . since P said he was more of an influence then Jimmy.

- the nite-club not letting the guys with the do-rags, wife-beater's and jump suits into the club, but letting the guys in with suits on and dollars to drop . . . (not sure how this will be taken by the younger hip-hop crowd).

- his references to old school musicians (like he said in his interview, some of the more mainstream artists today do not have a clue about the art of songwriting)

anywho - great show!!
music is its own reward - Sting
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Reply #44 posted 02/20/04 6:36am

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The interview was cool, and the performance with Wendy was really great to see and hear, but what a piece of TRASH Musicology is!!! Not necessarily the video, but the song!! This will have NO chance in hell of getting played on the radio or any video channels, for that matter!! It's lite "funk" (if I can even call it THAT), and it's not even as "melodious" as The Work, and I hated that when THAT came out!! I sure hope the rest of this album "Musicology" has better melodies/gems to offer up than this one....and THIS is the song he chose as a lead-off?!?!!!!?? If he signs with a record co., I sure hope they put a halt to this with the QUICKNESS!!! Bring back the team "Blouses", dammit!!! LMAO!!
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Reply #45 posted 02/20/04 7:26am

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It was a great show. I'm pissed that I didn't tape it. They run the show a half an hour later on a different channel, so I planned to watch it and then if it was worth it tape the second airing...but they didn't air it on the other channel, even though it was LISTED on the digital cable menu. I was really pissed about that.

Prince and Wendy looked so great together. He wouldn't look at her while they performed, but one time he kind of glanced over at her real quick and she smiled...I thought I was going to cry. It was so nice to see them together. The whole Revolution era was a big part of my teen years and holds a lot of great memories for me. It was great to see them perform.

Musicology was okay. More than anything, it was just nice to see an actual video.

I liked his explanation for not cursing anymore. Good interview.
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Reply #46 posted 02/20/04 7:44am

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It was a good show overall. I get the sense that Prince really doesn't like the criticism tht he doesn't sound like he used to back in the day. He brought that up several times.

The Reflection performance was classic.

Musicology, I can't say that it ain't funky, cause it is. It didn't kick my ass though, ya know? Nice video. I could see this on VH-1. MTV probably not. Top-40 Radio, doubtful.


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[This message was edited Fri Feb 20 7:45:59 2004 by Universaluv]
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Reply #47 posted 02/20/04 9:15am

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Universaluv said:

It was a good show overall. I get the sense that Prince really doesn't like the criticism tht he doesn't sound like he used to back in the day. He brought that up several times.



I took something slightly different from his comments. I don't think he was saying that he really doesn't like the criticism about not sounding like he used to sound back in the day. I just think he was trying to get some people to understand that he has no interest in trying to sound the exact way he used to sound back in the day. He said that he is more interested in creating a complete "body of work" such that by the time he is finished there are certain things included in that body of work... and by rehashing and trying to re-do what he has already done, he'll never be able to amass the kind of catalog that he is trying to create. So in other words, fans and others can criticize all they want, but Prince obviously has a different agenda. It's sort of like "if you don't like it, then you don't like it but I'm still going to do what I think is the right thing for me to do" but.... isn't that the way it has ALWAYS been with Prince???
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Reply #48 posted 02/20/04 11:20am

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FutureShock said:

I just think he was trying to get some people to understand that he has no interest in trying to sound the exact way he used to sound back in the day.


I wish that was true, but why is he doing yet another last time you would hear the hits live tour? Why is he performing with Wendy? Why does he want his old recordings back?

What ever happened to "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, your in the wrong house"? If he is really that serious about casting off his past, why doesnt he? I think his new stuff is FAR better now he is not chasing the charts. He relies on his past and he hates it.
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Reply #49 posted 02/20/04 11:30am

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FutureShock said:

I just think he was trying to get some people to understand that he has no interest in trying to sound the exact way he used to sound back in the day.


I wish that was true, but why is he doing yet another last time you would hear the hits live tour? Why is he performing with Wendy? Why does he want his old recordings back?

What ever happened to "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, your in the wrong house"? If he is really that serious about casting off his past, why doesnt he? I think his new stuff is FAR better now he is not chasing the charts. He relies on his past and he hates it.



clapping Always good to see ya, GP.
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Reply #50 posted 02/20/04 11:44am

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FutureShock said:

I just think he was trying to get some people to understand that he has no interest in trying to sound the exact way he used to sound back in the day.


I wish that was true, but why is he doing yet another last time you would hear the hits live tour? Why is he performing with Wendy? Why does he want his old recordings back?

What ever happened to "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, your in the wrong house"? If he is really that serious about casting off his past, why doesnt he? I think his new stuff is FAR better now he is not chasing the charts. He relies on his past and he hates it.


Excellent points.

Prince seems to have a lot of ambivalence about his past and how it reflects on/relates to him professionally and personally nowadays, and he can't seem find a way to reconcile the two in a way that satisfies him both professionally and personally.

Talk about inner turmoil....
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Reply #51 posted 02/20/04 12:13pm

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i liked his old skin comment, i hope janet jackson was watching.

man, i wished i would have taped it because i have been wanting to watch that today. i watched it at a bar. just a couple old guys in the bar and they had no idea prince had such a good head on his shoulders. one guy (about 50) said he has a whole new respect for prince and enjoyed reflection. although, when prince started talking about the bible one guy screamed out just play some damn music already and quit talking about god. at least he did not go too deeply into his faith. stay tuned for his next single:gatekeepers! lol
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Reply #52 posted 02/20/04 3:10pm

FutureShock

GoldiesParade said:

FutureShock said:

I just think he was trying to get some people to understand that he has no interest in trying to sound the exact way he used to sound back in the day.


I wish that was true, but why is he doing yet another last time you would hear the hits live tour? Why is he performing with Wendy? Why does he want his old recordings back?

What ever happened to "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, your in the wrong house"? If he is really that serious about casting off his past, why doesnt he? I think his new stuff is FAR better now he is not chasing the charts. He relies on his past and he hates it.


Well... first of all I don't know that it was actually Prince's camp that was saying that the Musicology Tour would be "the last time performing the hits" etc. And also, the hits that Prince performed overseas in Austrailia and such I don't think is the same as what he has been playing lately in the U.S. So if the House of Blues shows are any indication, I don't think it really matters whether such a statement was made or not, because it's not like Prince is playing one hit after another.

Why is he performing with Wendy??? I guess we'd have to ask Prince that question. But why is that really relevant to the point that he was making? Prince performed one song (Reflections)... and that was a NEW song with Wendy. So I don't understand what you're getting at.

And why does he want his old recordings back??? You have to be kidding me. I'm not Prince, but I think I can answer that one for him. I think he wants his old recordings back because they are his creations, yet he doesn't own them. That's not a complicated issue to understand, and again to have such a position has no bearing on the issue of fans and others wanting Prince to sound and act like he did in 1984.

The line, "if you came to get your Purple Rain on, you're in the wrong house" was specific to a specific tour... The One Night Alone Tour. Prince was basically putting the audience on notice that the One Night Alone tour was NOT a greatest hits tour. And in many cases, Prince later proceeded to actually play Purple Rain much later in the show. But by then, the point had already been made that One Night Alone was not a greatest hits tour.

The final point I want to make is that I think there is a huge distinction between the music that Prince chooses to perform live versus the actual music that he is creating in the studio that will ultimately add to his vast catalog of music. So, you can say "well why does Prince continue to perform Purple Rain". But Prince can say "yes but... my latest musical creation was N.E.W.S" And it is the fact that he has created and distributed N.E.W.S which seems to have caused the most heartburn, not the fact that he has played Purple Rain again. But unfortunately, some fans don't just want to hear Prince play "Purple Rain" again in concert, they want him to create another album like or similar to Purple Rain. Clearly, some fans want to hear a "Purple Rain/1999 part II" and Prince is saying "that's not what I'm about" "where I'm at right now is N.E.W.S. on the verge of Musicology" and as a fan/listner you can either get with that or you can't. Simple as that.
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