thEfRIeNdChiP said:

Didn't Larry once have a website a few years ago? I have a vague memory of looking through a site that was his but it had barely any info up and then one day it was just gone...

Maybe he's dead, and if not (yet) i'll

Larry

Why do people think Graham brainwashed Prince ?
This is crazy as Hell.Prince is a grown man who has made grown-up decisions since he was 13-14 years old.

Why do JW's have to be called names ?
I am not a JW but I respect their beliefs.

Oh, and it's really so good you respect JWitnesses, of course, because we must respect everyone. But how can we respect someone who defends beliefs that lead to suicide???

in his skin.

When Graham perfoms he does Sly songs like
"If you want me to stay" & he never even played on the
original track.That´s Sly playing bass.

Larry Graham is the man who invented the "slap" technique with the bass guitar and is an innovator in Funk.

Sweet Charles !!!

Thanks for reminding me of another great master !

muleFunk said:

That was Sweet Charles Sherrell. He did so in 1968.

Bu other than that, I agree with everything you have said.

Prince fans should stop bitchin about Larry.
Why? Because

1. While Larry did have SOME spiritual influence on Prince, it was Prince alone who has converted to the JWs. It was HIS decision.
2. Obviously, being a JW helped Prince to become a happy, mature and very together person. What`s wrong with that????? I am not a witness, but I can see when something does something positive for somebody. That`s the only thing that matters. The JWs belief might not work for the most of us, but it definetely seems to work for Prince. He become a much more humble and cooler human being.
3. Since Larry started playing with Prince, his sound became much funkier. Larry helped to bring out the real funk in Prince`s music again.
4. Larry helped Prince being who he is today way before they ever met. Prince was really into Sly around 1970, and Larry`s playing has influenced his own bass playing more than anybody`s. Later (around 1974) Prince really got into the Ohio Players - and Graham Central Station. Again, much of Larry`s bass-influence and even vocal influence (the deep range) can be heard throughout Prince`s entire career.

To dis Larry and wishing that he was gone is denying where Prince is coming from. It`s plain stupid.
[This message was edited Mon Feb 16 5:57:45 2004 by Ubiquity]

Oh right! You can see when something positive does something to someone can you? Something to someone whom you dont know, dont speak to and know nothing about.... But you can see it? Bollox....

I know some people who are close to Prince. I listen to what they say about how much he has changed - to the positive. But you just need to watch him, observe him. And listen to his lyrics -- because the man turns his inside out in his songs. He is less angry, less confused and he now focuses on what he can do best - play music.
Don`t tell me that I don`t know nothing about Prince. Because you don`t know nothing about me ...

I hate it when people pretend to know something about someone they know fuck all about!

Well, then you should shut up because that`s exactly what you are doing.

Who cares who changed who and who influenced who into doing whatever...

Obviously many people. Because these kind of threads never seem to disappear.

Larry has talent. Prince has talent. I know that because that is what is displayed to the world. Prince hates peas and Larry only shits in the morning, well, who gives a fuck?

Its obvious that you don`t know how to join a debate, so why go on?

Dont anyone claim to know anything about anyone, good or bad, unless they can count that person as their friend in life....

I am by no means Prince`s friend. But as I said before, watch him. If you know only a little bit about people, then you can see that it is so obvious that he is much more together and happy today compared to let`s say 1981 or 1996 ...

There aint no one on this org that is close to Prince and can call him a friend, so give up on the 'I know Prince and can see what so and so has done to influence this that and the other...'.

That may be true, but obviously you aren`t one of his friends either. So why do you get so upset and claim to know everything better? Just chill and all is gonna be fine ...

There aint no one on this org that is close to Prince and can call him a friend, so give up on the 'I know Prince and can see what so and so has done to influence this that and the other...'.

actually prince has released less music since larry came on the scene, in fact he's started endlessly repeating his amterial like larry does.

Not true. Until 2001, Prince has released one album per year. Since late 2001, when hebecame a witness, he put out five albums. But the quantity of music is really not important, and if you believe that Larry has or had any influence on how many records Prince puts out, you are one big fool. And if you think that TRC just sounds like News or ONA, then you don`t know too much about music either.

and, does he really seem happier?

Yes, I believe so. But I am not close to Prince at all. However, as I have said before, I am friends with some people he is very close to. And they tell me that he has changed to the positive. Obviously, he was a real asshole before.

his lyrics are angreier than they've ever been

Where? Which lyrics? They are critical, reflect his religious belief. But I don`t see anger somewhere. While its obvious that his lyrics of the past were often very angry. And Prince seems like he has finally grown out of his multiple personalities trip. No Spooky Electric, Camille, etc.
Prince was on the search for a long time. He now has found what he was looking for.

he bulldozed his dad's house so his siblings couldn't have it and he had his bodyguard steal some kid's camera at the airport. does that seem healthy and happy to you??

Do you really know what happened? Do you know the truth behind the stories? And why do you think Prince is angry because his bodyguard makes a mistake? Gosh, you really don`t get human behaviour, do you? Prince used to be a freak who was hiding from people, playing mindgames. Now he even allows his fans to join himon stage and hang out, he has no problem with people talking to him. He wasnt like that before. he has changed.

What about no blood tranfussions? Isn't that clear? Are not JW's dying everyday because they refuse to have blood tranfussions when it's the only chance they have to survive? What about that? Isn't that suicide?

Sweet Charles !!!

Thanks for reminding me of another great master !

Who is Sweet Charles? What is his contribution to funk? I've always heard larry mentioned as the inventor of the slap style. But usually, there is nothing new under the sun if you look hard enough.

Sweet Charles was the bass player with the James Brown band. He joined Brown in 1968, coming from Aretha Franklin. He played on all the major funk hits, like "Say it Loud", "The Popcorn", "They Payback". Bootsy says that Sweets was his main influence. Sweets later became Browns band director and arranger.

And as far as Prince having Maceo and Larry play, it looks like Prince's way of giving back to me. In the ONA video Maceo does "Pass the Peas" which is fine and good but it doesn't fit the rest of the show and could have been left out. It just shows to me that Prince is sharing with some of his influences his spotlight.

I agree. I don`t really believe that Mace blends in too well. He is too much of his own man with his own style.

Also, incidentally, I got an email from Dr. Fink who did reply to my question of Prince's behavior in the past and he told me that Prince was happier and nicer these days. He'd probably know better than any of us.

Thanks for sharing that since nobody wants to believe it.