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PrintableAnji said: ThreadBare said: Yes, but the squalls and their storage are incidental (Job 38-42). The responses in question belong to the eagle. The process by which the eagle learns to trust enough in Him Who holds the wind in abeyance involves the decision to accept or reject the "wake up" calls.
So, if I've understood you correctly, the squalls have their purpose in pushing the eagle towards his destiny. And the eagle experiences cycles (of life/death/rebirth within life), until it finally sees its position within the world, and trusts enough to accept His destiny. There's a song from The Rainbow Children, Last December, where Prince says something along the lines of... "did you ever find the reason why had to live?" Can you interpet this thought in relation to what we've been talking about?
Once the eagle learns to trust beyond the squalls' unpredictability and see that they actually push him toward his destiny and purpose, it's less likely he'll fight them. And, it's likelier that his transitional yes will become a permanent one. On a personal note, do you find that in order for one to exact such faith in one's destiny, that there would necessarily need to be a pivotal 'down' period before one can truly reflect and ultimately, surrender? love . [This message was edited Tue Feb 10 12:37:53 PST 2004 by Anji] I'm not sure if there is just one "reason." I think God expects His children to be as helpful, compassionate, loving and effective as Jesus Chris was on Earth. The Bible describes Christ as the "firstborn of many brethren." Maybe that "reason" is a willingness to love God and serve Him and the needs of others in a way that reflects His plans for us. Does there have to be "down time" before surrendering to God? The process of surrendering to God is continual. It begins with the salvation experience -- not ends. There is a constant reeducation of the mind, unlearning the ways that are contrary to faith in God, and growing in the understanding of God as a sovereign and loving Creator/Father/Savior. Often, the "down time" recurs after salvation, and can take the shape of crises in the areas of health, finances, relationships, internal questions, employment, etc. These are the squalls that wait in abeyance. As a Christian, my response to the squalls, and my struggle to see them as necessary for my transition into purpose and destiny, are central to my trust in God. Ultimately, I trust that God has the crises and squalls working for my good. Now, spiritually evolved people maintaining such an outlook and remaining focused on the needs of others are challenges in our materialistic and jaded society. How that process and dichotomy affect artistic creativity -- particularly for one whose personal & professional crises within the past decade or so have been public -- sets up an interesting question about Prince and 2004, doesn't it? Because, Prince hasn't been idle since he fell off the public's radar. Diehard fans know what he's been up, and we even quibble over his personal trials and idiosyncrasies. For the general public, the Grammy performance, PR anniversary and Hall induction present market-related opportunities to get reacquainted. The question is, will Prince respond to this upsurge in a way that yields an attitude more conducive to service? Ask the owners of fansites, one teen would-be photographer or the members of the NPGMC. In recent years, I've seen his public declarations of servitude ("Free the music!") and a more private manipulation of a diehard fanbase. ("Are U willing 2 do the work?") To me, the prospect of servitude grows more remote as Prince seems to obsess more over guarding his revenue, likeness and back catalog. But, to be fair to him, maybe he does charitable works that get no press at all. In your interpretation of this season, what is renounced? What is reborn? [This message was edited Tue Feb 10 13:41:40 PST 2004 by ThreadBare] | |
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Anji said: ThreadBare said: Yes, but the squalls and their storage are incidental (Job 38-42). The responses in question belong to the eagle. The process by which the eagle learns to trust enough in Him Who holds the wind in abeyance involves the decision to accept or reject the "wake up" calls.
So, if I've understood you correctly, the squalls have their purpose in pushing the eagle towards his destiny. And the eagle experiences cycles (of life/death/rebirth within life), until it finally sees its position within the world, and trusts enough to accept His destiny. There's a song from The Rainbow Children, Last December, where Prince says something along the lines of... "did you ever find the reason why had to live?" Can you interpet this thought in relation to what we've been talking about?
Once the eagle learns to trust beyond the squalls' unpredictability and see that they actually push him toward his destiny and purpose, it's less likely he'll fight them. And, it's likelier that his transitional yes will become a permanent one. On a personal note, do you find that in order for one to exact such faith in one's destiny, that there would necessarily need to be a pivotal 'down' period before one can truly reflect and ultimately, surrender? love . [This message was edited Tue Feb 10 12:37:53 PST 2004 by Anji] It's time 2 tell us the TRUTH Did u talk 2 the insider these days ? I Like 2 know more about the New Album & Deal? Did u remember? http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_625401 The Mistake is human...can u xplain?...it's an old story i know(Not the only one) but friendly..i'd like 2 understand!! |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: btw...what's this have to do with the music? get to the point and please quit dilly-dallying with vague metaphors.
You want Anji to quit dilly-dallying around with vague metaphors?? Get real - its one of his favorite play toys. He gets to see how far he can go in making someone respond with the same silliness. Thats the first game. The second game is seeing how annoying he can be before people start to flip out . He gets off on people insulting him and is totally callous to the effect his remarks have on fellow orgers. Prince.org is a huge game to him. He isn't the only one like this - just the most obvious. | |
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love2thenines2003 said: Anji said: ThreadBare said: Yes, but the squalls and their storage are incidental (Job 38-42). The responses in question belong to the eagle. The process by which the eagle learns to trust enough in Him Who holds the wind in abeyance involves the decision to accept or reject the "wake up" calls.
So, if I've understood you correctly, the squalls have their purpose in pushing the eagle towards his destiny. And the eagle experiences cycles (of life/death/rebirth within life), until it finally sees its position within the world, and trusts enough to accept His destiny. There's a song from The Rainbow Children, Last December, where Prince says something along the lines of... "did you ever find the reason why had to live?" Can you interpet this thought in relation to what we've been talking about?
Once the eagle learns to trust beyond the squalls' unpredictability and see that they actually push him toward his destiny and purpose, it's less likely he'll fight them. And, it's likelier that his transitional yes will become a permanent one. On a personal note, do you find that in order for one to exact such faith in one's destiny, that there would necessarily need to be a pivotal 'down' period before one can truly reflect and ultimately, surrender? love . [This message was edited Tue Feb 10 12:37:53 PST 2004 by Anji] It's time 2 tell us the TRUTH Did u talk 2 the insider these days ? I Like 2 know more about the New Album & Deal? >>I'm sure u know the truth because u are in spiritual connection with Prince...Waiting 4 your track listing & details Deal !! Did u remember? http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_625401 The Mistake is human...can u xplain?...it's an old story i know(Not the only one) but friendly..i'd like 2 understand!! |
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Anji said: ThreadBare said: Yes, but the squalls and their storage are incidental (Job 38-42). The responses in question belong to the eagle. The process by which the eagle learns to trust enough in Him Who holds the wind in abeyance involves the decision to accept or reject the "wake up" calls.
So, if I've understood you correctly, the squalls have their purpose in pushing the eagle towards his destiny. And the eagle experiences cycles (of life/death/rebirth within life), until it finally sees its position within the world, and trusts enough to accept His destiny. There's a song from The Rainbow Children, Last December, where Prince says something along the lines of... "did you ever find the reason why had to live?" Can you interpet this thought in relation to what we've been talking about?
Once the eagle learns to trust beyond the squalls' unpredictability and see that they actually push him toward his destiny and purpose, it's less likely he'll fight them. And, it's likelier that his transitional yes will become a permanent one. On a personal note, do you find that in order for one to exact such faith in one's destiny, that there would necessarily need to be a pivotal 'down' period before one can truly reflect and ultimately, surrender? love . [This message was edited Tue Feb 10 12:37:53 PST 2004 by Anji] Anj: The line from Last December is actually "Did you ever find a good reason...Why u had 2 die?" which sets up a far more interesting journey for the more adventurous listener. | |
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Anji said: Can you see how the following statement may relate to Prince? If so, do you believe his role in this world is changing?
"Spiritualy evolved people, by virtue of their discipline, mastery and love, are people of extraordinary competence, and in their competence they are called on to serve the world, and in their love they answer the call." love welcome back anji only prince can answer your question spiritual growth is personal and on going all humans are imperfect God's love is perfect and in God's love, prince has put on the wings of Faith and soars | |
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you people can talk shit so well. I want u on my PR team. | |
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Anji said: Can you see how the following statement may relate to Prince? If so, do you believe his role in this world is changing?
"Spiritualy evolved people, by virtue of their discipline, mastery and love, are people of extraordinary competence, and in their competence they are called on to serve the world, and in their love they answer the call." love  | |
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Hey Anji, nice to see you back. Been off for a while myself
lately, but when I saw you posted I just had to reply 
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ThreadBare said: I'm not sure if there is just one "reason." I think God expects His children to be as helpful, compassionate, loving and effective as Jesus Chris was on Earth. The Bible describes Christ as the "firstborn of many brethren." Maybe that "reason" is a willingness to love God and serve Him and the needs of others in a way that reflects His plans for us.
It's interesting that what can often be perceived as a weak position to take i.e. surrendering one's faith in God's plans, and His journey for us, can actually lead to a strengthening of the spirit in spite of vitriolic attacks (or squalls, if you will). Is this perhaps a central psychological means through which one can transcend an often misinformed public's emotions regarding one's personal decisions? The suing of the informational site re: bootleg material, and subsequent non-reactive response to such laughable 'emotional' turmoil that many fans appeared to be suffering, is completely in accordance with this manner of behaviour and belief.
Does there have to be "down time" before surrendering to God? The process of surrendering to God is continual. It begins with the salvation experience -- not ends. There is a constant reeducation of the mind, unlearning the ways that are contrary to faith in God, and growing in the understanding of God as a sovereign and loving Creator/Father/Savior. Often, the "down time" recurs after salvation, and can take the shape of crises in the areas of health, finances, relationships, internal questions, employment, etc. These are the squalls that wait in abeyance. As a Christian, my response to the squalls, and my struggle to see them as necessary for my transition into purpose and destiny, are central to my trust in God. Ultimately, I trust that God has the crises and squalls working for my good. Now, spiritually evolved people maintaining such an outlook and remaining focused on the needs of others are challenges in our materialistic and jaded society. How that process and dichotomy affect artistic creativity -- particularly for one whose personal & professional crises within the past decade or so have been public -- sets up an interesting question about Prince and 2004, doesn't it? Because, Prince hasn't been idle since he fell off the public's radar. Diehard fans know what he's been up, and we even quibble over his personal trials and idiosyncrasies. For the general public, the Grammy performance, PR anniversary and Hall induction present market-related opportunities to get reacquainted. The question is, will Prince respond to this upsurge in a way that yields an attitude more conducive to service? Ask the owners of fansites, one teen would-be photographer or the members of the NPGMC. In recent years, I've seen his public declarations of servitude ("Free the music!") and a more private manipulation of a diehard fanbase. ("Are U willing 2 do the work?") To me, the prospect of servitude grows more remote as Prince seems to obsess more over guarding his revenue, likeness and back catalog. But, to be fair to him, maybe he does charitable works that get no press at all. In your interpretation of this season, what is renounced? What is reborn? Moving on, though, character assassinations are an inherent feature of celebrity. In recent times, he appears to be responding to them in a private, reflective manner. I do not recall any form of publically negative response to Alex Hahn's attempt at portraying him as a psychotically unbalanced character, in need of controlling any and everything around him? His previous manner of dealing with such attacks (squalls, if you will) have often been more direct and reactive, rather than reflective. No such reprisals this time around. Is that in God's hands? I believe he believes so. Regarding this notion of 'freeing the music,' I had always assumed that referred to the ideals around which he wanted his music to be created at that time. I imagine that towards the end of his relationship with Warner Brothers, he himself felt increasingly trapped (from an artistic viewpoint) as to why he should necessarily create music amidst the financial / market constraints of a multinational corporation? This theme of making the music that people want to hear (The Symbol album), as opposed to making the music that naturally comes from within (The Rainbow Children), had been an on-going inner battle for him. [NOTE: The Gold Experience era was entirely being fuelled by this over-riding desire to be free, to so speak, hence the campaign to 'free the music.' I think it would have been foolish to assume music would literally be given away free, and certainly not when the pressures of running a business independently became a reality]. Anyway, he appears to have transcended through his past, personal traumas, and even become something of a mentor / Godfather figure to the 'true' funk and hip hop crowd. I believe this, in recognition of what the 'digital garden' represents to him, and how he can influence / manipulate it (should he wish), will be part of the gameplan for the upcoming year. I kinda wish he had slapped Beyonce's booty with some of that ol' skool raw, dirty dawg FUNK, but he'll probably do that through a more informed crowd (Questlove's camp, for example). In my opinion, that's the ONLY form of music ("the beats" kinda music) that will bring him the kind of credibility he wants again in musical circles. Regardless, I think it's safe to assume that Prince will pimp every muthafucka in the business in 2004, and so he should. love | |
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Jestyr said: Anj:
Hey Jess, what do you think that suggests then?
The line from Last December is actually "Did you ever find a good reason...Why u had 2 die?" which sets up a far more interesting journey for the more adventurous listener. love | |
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Isten! How are ya? I'm interested in your thoughts too.
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welcome back! intelligence and thoughtfulness are always welcome. Just reading this thread reveals many rather attack then think. | |
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Anji!
Maybe Prince feels he HAS come back as a dolphin, and we WILL listen to him now... who knows. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Anji!
Maybe Prince feels he HAS come back as a dolphin, and we WILL listen to him now... who knows. If he was Prince no such info like this! Did u remember? http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_625401 Or If he is Prince It's time 2 tell us the TRUTH Mr INSIDER I Like 2 know more about the New Album & Deal? >>I'm sure he knows the truth ...Hey Anji or Prince Waiting 4 your track listing & details Deal !! |
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Anji said: Jestyr said: Anj:
Hey Jess, what do you think that suggests then?
The line from Last December is actually "Did you ever find a good reason...Why u had 2 die?" which sets up a far more interesting journey for the more adventurous listener. love The human quest is one for meaning. But Prince takes it a step further by asking, 'What is meaningful enough for you to die for?' By posing this question, he invites the listener to check themselves. Christ found a reason, and that gave his entire existence meaning. Most of us will not examine our lives that thoroughly and thus "..plan on leaving without wondering why". | |
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Anji said: ThreadBare said: I'm not sure if there is just one "reason." I think God expects His children to be as helpful, compassionate, loving and effective as Jesus Chris was on Earth. The Bible describes Christ as the "firstborn of many brethren." Maybe that "reason" is a willingness to love God and serve Him and the needs of others in a way that reflects His plans for us.
It's interesting that what can often be perceived as a weak position to take i.e. surrendering one's faith in God's plans, and His journey for us, can actually lead to a strengthening of the spirit in spite of vitriolic attacks (or squalls, if you will). Is this perhaps a central psychological means through which one can transcend an often misinformed public's emotions regarding one's personal decisions? The suing of the informational site re: bootleg material, and subsequent non-reactive response to such laughable 'emotional' turmoil that many fans appeared to be suffering, is completely in accordance with this manner of behaviour and belief.
Does there have to be "down time" before surrendering to God? The process of surrendering to God is continual. It begins with the salvation experience -- not ends. There is a constant reeducation of the mind, unlearning the ways that are contrary to faith in God, and growing in the understanding of God as a sovereign and loving Creator/Father/Savior. Often, the "down time" recurs after salvation, and can take the shape of crises in the areas of health, finances, relationships, internal questions, employment, etc. These are the squalls that wait in abeyance. As a Christian, my response to the squalls, and my struggle to see them as necessary for my transition into purpose and destiny, are central to my trust in God. Ultimately, I trust that God has the crises and squalls working for my good. Now, spiritually evolved people maintaining such an outlook and remaining focused on the needs of others are challenges in our materialistic and jaded society. How that process and dichotomy affect artistic creativity -- particularly for one whose personal & professional crises within the past decade or so have been public -- sets up an interesting question about Prince and 2004, doesn't it? Because, Prince hasn't been idle since he fell off the public's radar. Diehard fans know what he's been up, and we even quibble over his personal trials and idiosyncrasies. For the general public, the Grammy performance, PR anniversary and Hall induction present market-related opportunities to get reacquainted. The question is, will Prince respond to this upsurge in a way that yields an attitude more conducive to service? Ask the owners of fansites, one teen would-be photographer or the members of the NPGMC. In recent years, I've seen his public declarations of servitude ("Free the music!") and a more private manipulation of a diehard fanbase. ("Are U willing 2 do the work?") To me, the prospect of servitude grows more remote as Prince seems to obsess more over guarding his revenue, likeness and back catalog. But, to be fair to him, maybe he does charitable works that get no press at all. In your interpretation of this season, what is renounced? What is reborn? Moving on, though, character assassinations are an inherent feature of celebrity. In recent times, he appears to be responding to them in a private, reflective manner. I do not recall any form of publically negative response to Alex Hahn's attempt at portraying him as a psychotically unbalanced character, in need of controlling any and everything around him? His previous manner of dealing with such attacks (squalls, if you will) have often been more direct and reactive, rather than reflective. No such reprisals this time around. Is that in God's hands? I believe he believes so. Regarding this notion of 'freeing the music,' I had always assumed that referred to the ideals around which he wanted his music to be created at that time. I imagine that towards the end of his relationship with Warner Brothers, he himself felt increasingly trapped (from an artistic viewpoint) as to why he should necessarily create music amidst the financial / market constraints of a multinational corporation? This theme of making the music that people want to hear (The Symbol album), as opposed to making the music that naturally comes from within (The Rainbow Children), had been an on-going inner battle for him. [NOTE: The Gold Experience era was entirely being fuelled by this over-riding desire to be free, to so speak, hence the campaign to 'free the music.' I think it would have been foolish to assume music would literally be given away free, and certainly not when the pressures of running a business independently became a reality]. Anyway, he appears to have transcended through his past, personal traumas, and even become something of a mentor / Godfather figure to the 'true' funk and hip hop crowd. I believe this, in recognition of what the 'digital garden' represents to him, and how he can influence / manipulate it (should he wish), will be part of the gameplan for the upcoming year. I kinda wish he had slapped Beyonce's booty with some of that ol' skool raw, dirty dawg FUNK, but he'll probably do that through a more informed crowd (Questlove's camp, for example). In my opinion, that's the ONLY form of music ("the beats" kinda music) that will bring him the kind of credibility he wants again in musical circles. Regardless, I think it's safe to assume that Prince will pimp every muthafucka in the business in 2004, and so he should. love May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love.   | |
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Why do some people think Anji is Prince? :huh:
Would Prince have David Beckham as his avatar? 
Would Prince even know how to set up an avatar? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Romance1600 said: Why do some people think Anji is Prince? :huh:
Would Prince have David Beckham as his avatar?
Would Prince even know how to set up an avatar? If he was Prince no such info like this! Did u remember? http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_625401 Next Anji 03/27/03 12:10pm UPDATED: The choices for lead and follow up singles are Moonbeam Levels and Love Stories. At this point in time, Moonbeam Levels is being negotiated for a worldwide, mainstream release prior to the new album's release in June... 03/27/03 5:06pm 2nd Update: The new Prince album was never intended to be called Two Thousand Free: The Revelation Year or The Purple House. The first title is nothing more than a rumour, and the second title refers to another project... Next 2 come! [This message was edited Thu Feb 12 3:03:43 PST 2004 by love2thenines2003] |
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Romance1600 said: Why do some people think Anji is Prince? :huh:
Would Prince have David Beckham as his avatar?
Would Prince even know how to set up an avatar? Prince would not talk that much, I personally don't get through Anji's posts...it's too much! I'll read Nietschze instead... | |
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I thought that 2the9s had stopped inventing all these alter egos.  When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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bkw said: I thought that 2the9s had stopped inventing all these alter egos.
I'm love2the9's > Anji is not Me! Mounths ago i give an Info about a Big announcement in NOVEMBER...with the releases of the Prince/WB back catalogue remastered + Bonus > My source was 100% wrong so me 2!! I made apologies 4 this! But Anji should stop taking CRACK! that's it  |
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BorisFishpaw said: Anji! Boris! "Love Stories?"
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Jestyr said: The human quest is one for meaning. But Prince takes it a step further by asking, 'What is meaningful enough for you to die for?' By posing this question, he invites the listener to check themselves. Christ found a reason, and that gave his entire existence meaning. Most of us will not examine our lives that thoroughly and thus "..plan on leaving without wondering why". Perhaps, by allowing a part of himself to die for a cause which he believed him, provided him with a sense of salvation, and ultimately, a better reason to live. That's an extremely personal endeavour, in my opinion. In retrospect, I think it can all too easily be underestimated just how much of a personal crisis he was experiencing back then.
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Anji said: BorisFishpaw said: Anji! Boris! "Love Stories?"
love Did u remember? http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_625401 Next Anji 03/27/03 12:10pm UPDATED: The choices for lead and follow up singles are Moonbeam Levels and Love Stories. At this point in time, Moonbeam Levels is being negotiated for a worldwide, mainstream release prior to the new album's release in June... 03/27/03 5:06pm 2nd Update: The new Prince album was never intended to be called Two Thousand Free: The Revelation Year or The Purple House. The first title is nothing more than a rumour, and the second title refers to another project... Next 2 come! |
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Anji, I've been wondering where the hell you've been
Welcome back! | |
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And it starts alll over again...Hi Anji!    &  | |
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langebleu said: PFunkjazz said: langebleu said: Anji said: "Spiritualy evolved people, by virtue of their discipline, mastery and love, are people of extraordinary competence, and in their competence they are called on to serve the world, and in their love they answer the call."
The word is 'spiritually'. You really should brush up on the spelling if you want that 'thesis' you are hoping to pubublish to have any credibility. . "pubublish"  I'm not claiming to write the thesis, though. No you are claiming to correct the man who wrote the thesis! | |
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