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Printablethe3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else.  "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater.  NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else. "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater. Aw, c'mon, man... Love's a Dangerous Language, Bite the Hand, That was Then, ALL KICK MAJOR ASS. I like Many Happy Returns, though... That one kicks ass for a Lexicon song. I've reversed the polarity of the neutron flow... Now to find a way to exterminate Melody Cool and Rosie Gaines...   
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the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else. "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater. Aw, c'mon, man... Love's a Dangerous Language, Bite the Hand, That was Then, ALL KICK MAJOR ASS. I like Many Happy Returns, though... That one kicks ass for a Lexicon song. Oh yeah, them 'Stab' tracks did kick ass, but it sounded to Roxy-ish. At least 'Lexicon' showed the band sounding like themselves. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else. "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater. Aw, c'mon, man... Love's a Dangerous Language, Bite the Hand, That was Then, ALL KICK MAJOR ASS. I like Many Happy Returns, though... That one kicks ass for a Lexicon song. Oh yeah, them 'Stab' tracks did kick ass, but it sounded to Roxy-ish. At least 'Lexicon' showed the band sounding like themselves. Not too familiar with Roxy Music, so I don't know... I've reversed the polarity of the neutron flow... Now to find a way to exterminate Melody Cool and Rosie Gaines...
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the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else. "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater. Aw, c'mon, man... Love's a Dangerous Language, Bite the Hand, That was Then, ALL KICK MAJOR ASS. I like Many Happy Returns, though... That one kicks ass for a Lexicon song. Oh yeah, them 'Stab' tracks did kick ass, but it sounded to Roxy-ish. At least 'Lexicon' showed the band sounding like themselves. Not too familiar with Roxy Music, so I don't know... OK, I'm tired of defending my 2nd favorite album of all time. Can we get back to the subject, please? NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else. "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater. Aw, c'mon, man... Love's a Dangerous Language, Bite the Hand, That was Then, ALL KICK MAJOR ASS. I like Many Happy Returns, though... That one kicks ass for a Lexicon song. Oh yeah, them 'Stab' tracks did kick ass, but it sounded to Roxy-ish. At least 'Lexicon' showed the band sounding like themselves. Not too familiar with Roxy Music, so I don't know... OK, I'm tired of defending my 2nd favorite album of all time. Can we get back to the subject, please? Why? I've reversed the polarity of the neutron flow... Now to find a way to exterminate Melody Cool and Rosie Gaines...
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is'nt it said that if you were to put anybody's life up under a microscope then to all those who viewed it they would appear insane. Prince may be insane in relation to your life but in his own he is sane. If i were prince i'd have walls that were painted like the sky, a funny shaped guitar and a pair of ass-less pants. Wouldnt make me insane though. I would consider many other people in the public eye to be far more mentally unstable and more dangerous to themseleves (and others) than Prince. President Bush, Saddam Hussain, Bin ladden etc... You do as I say | |
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the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: the3rddoctor said: NWF said: You think too much, FunnyWay.
Just listen to the music and forget about everything else. "Beauty Stab" was better, NWF... Beauty Stab was cool, but hell no, it does not compare to the greatness of "Lexicon". Nah, it's better because they broke out of the "glitter" thing... You know, the gold suit and straight pop. They added rock to it. That was the true esscence of ABC. The glamour and the gold suits and stuff. But then they had to switch it up on us and do some Roxy Music type shit. Don't get me wrong, 'Beauty Stab' was great, but 'Lexicon' was greater. Aw, c'mon, man... Love's a Dangerous Language, Bite the Hand, That was Then, ALL KICK MAJOR ASS. I like Many Happy Returns, though... That one kicks ass for a Lexicon song. Oh yeah, them 'Stab' tracks did kick ass, but it sounded to Roxy-ish. At least 'Lexicon' showed the band sounding like themselves. Not too familiar with Roxy Music, so I don't know... OK, I'm tired of defending my 2nd favorite album of all time. Can we get back to the subject, please? Why? Because this discussion was initially about FunnyWay's questioning of Prince's sanity. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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This topic reminds me, does anyone remember his oprah interview when he said he had another entity inside of him and didn't know the sex of it? He claimed to have a split personality right on national tv. I thought it was funny as hell. And from personal experience, I would guess there was some money grubbing counselor putting this wacky idea in his head. I don't think he really believed that mess. I think the madness adds to his mystique like his genius label. I also know people claim to believe way out stuff like that are common place, religion, where you know they don't believe the crap they say but they say it anyway. | |
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Studies suggest that Jehovah's Witnesses are more likely to be admitted to psychiatric hospitals than the general population. According to an article in the British Journal of Psychiatry, they are 3 times more likely to be diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia and 4 times more likley to be paranoid schizophrenics. As a writer in the American journal Free Inquiry puts it:"Either the Jehovah's Witness tends to attract and excess of pre-psychotic individuals who may then break down, or else being a Jehovah's Witness is itself a stress that may precipitate psychosis. Possibly both of these factors operate together"
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Dude, you didn't have to write a big long post to convince us that P is crazy. We believe it.
But he's a crazy mutherfucker who can play a guitar. Whole Lotta Love and the Ride on the DVD make me very, very happy. | |
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Is Prince mentally ill? Who knows. It's possible. What we do know is that he's a highly creative person. (some would say genius, though that's not the issue) Creativity and mental illness such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder especially tend to go hand in hand.
As for those who refer to psychology as quackery: I'm truly sorry that you have had bad experiences with therapists/psychologists. I have as well. But to call the entire science quackery because of a few money-grubbing psychiatrists is like saying standard medicine is quackery because Doctors are highly paid and charge massive amounts (in the U.S., at least) for medical procedures. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: Is Prince mentally ill? Who knows. It's possible. What we do know is that he's a highly creative person. (some would say genius, though that's not the issue) Creativity and mental illness such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder especially tend to go hand in hand.
As for those who refer to psychology as quackery: I'm truly sorry that you have had bad experiences with therapists/psychologists. I have as well. But to call the entire science quackery because of a few money-grubbing psychiatrists is like saying standard medicine is quackery because Doctors are highly paid and charge massive amounts (in the U.S., at least) for medical procedures. I didn't exempt doctors at all, in fact I think the whole industry of medicine is as corrupt as anything I can think of outside of politics. Here in America, money is always the bottom line. It's easy to forget that when you are a decent human being and people come at you like they are decent human beings. I am Indian, and there is a reason that I should be paranoid of this society. I certainly have seen a lot of evidence in my lifetime. | |
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No,but I think the fans are a little  And like His promise is true
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mozfonky said: FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said: Genius, Icon, Prodigy...Nutter.
Maybe Prince is just a great exhibitionist but I don't think all the craziness is just an act. Prince music, imagery, dance moves and all that shit R so so great but what if Mr Nelson has a secret...shhh...come closer...I'm a fucking NUTTER! 1. Since the beginning he has created worlds and places like Uptown, Paisley Park, graffitti Bridge, Alphabet St. and has invited everyone 2 come visit-inventive imagery or illussions of a nutter? 2. Prince sees people no one else can (can U say A Beautiful Mind) like spooky electric, Camille, Little girl Wendy and renames everyone he comes across like he can't accept reality and needs 2 recreate it...like an insane person does when they lose touch of reality usually through a traumatic childhood experience (could have been when his Dad left). 3. Prince creates signs and symbols 2 rival any in a religious cult like the  or the peace sign
4. Prince tells everyone 2 join the 'new' power generation or exclaims we need a 'new breed' leader, called his band the revolution and this paranoia is just like schizophrenia 5. Schizophrenia commonly gives it's victim many sides-well shit, where do I start...he admits in 'My name is Prince' "I got 2 sides and they both friends" more like 50 sides: camille, Electric Man, AlexanderNevermind, Joey CoCo-Ghost writer's, alter ego's, artistic persona's or signs of a man crying out 4 help cos he's got split personalities he cannot control I've thought Prince was insane 4 years and that he gets away with it because he laughs it off or comes up with songs like 'MAD' but think about it-what if U were 2 tell everyone that Ur changing Ur name to +--~~<= or Spooky Electric talks 2 U or 'we need a new breed' they'd take Ur ass 2 the nuthouse b4 U could say David Koresh.
That said I believe genius and insanity go hand in hand-look at crazy hair Einstein, weirdo Quentin Tarrantino and absolute nutter Mozart  In order 2 challenge and change reality and sanity U have 2 get Unreal and insane-so let's go Crazy! 
[This message was edited Tue Feb 3 6:03:22 PST 2004 by FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice] My opinion, psychology is just a racket, i've had counselors so ignorant and greedy that I can't respect it at all. That doesn't mean everything in it is wrong but most of it is garbage. Diagnosis' can be matched up with anyone and if you check you'll see they keep coming up with more and more of the. All great rockstars have the same personality, sort of schizoid in terms of there being on one hand very much loners and craving for acceptance and people. Check Elvis on up. And you make the point of him creating alternate realities, this is the stamp of rock stars, you listen to the sun sessions and you hear elvis creating a new model of the world, all the great ones have that great sense of delivering something new and vital. If you want to talk about crazy, well I've been around all kinds of people, of all colors and beliefs and I finally concluded that if you get to know anyone well enough, we're all crazy. How were those counselors ignorant? Were they culturally insensitive? I read that people of different ethnicities tend to avoid psychotherapy precisely because of this. Yeap, counseling is expensive. I agree. | |
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How were those counselors ignorant? Were they culturally insensitive? I read that people of different ethnicities tend to avoid psychotherapy precisely because of this. Yeap, counseling is expensive. I agree.[/quote]
Absolutely, absolutely!..They have 0 insight, which if you are dealing with a persons inner workings you need a lot of. I would go beyond calling them biased and call the ones I had racist as well. This gets personal but since you want examples I will tell you some but not all of the story. I am a product of an Indian father,white mother, black stepfather. i think just the fact that my mom and stepdad were a mixed marriage was enough for these racists to believe that the kid (me) couldn't be norman. I was called crazy because I did not mainain eye contact with the guy. I did have problems but these clowns never helped at all. I think money is a huge part of this, along with the subtle racism. At the time, my parents and I were really at odds so, that along with my youth 17, was enough to leave me defenseless. I managed to get away from them after I turned 18, I continued counseling for years until I had a counselor advise me to pursue a girl further than I should have. She thought I was a stalker. Long story short, nobody needs "help" like that. When I look back, I realize that all I needed was myself, I'm now content to be my own man and define myself. I know a lot of other people who've gotten bad advice from not only counselors but also all kinds of people in the medical profession. The biggest problem, that I saw was that, the best interest of the individual is not there. Also, if you are black, indian or anything else, your best off never trusting these people. The way you look at the world is backwards according to them. I could go on and on, but I would say it's just a big waste of time and energy. I'm angry just thinking about it. I never let myself forget though, that at the bottom of all relationships is power and money. I have to do this because, I have an Indian way of trying to put things into harmony in a world that is just powerdriven. | |
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yes, so am I, so are you, we all are, he just happens to be extraordinarilly talented, mo power to the little brotha. | |
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There's a fine line between madness and divinity! | |
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Um frum Brooklyn... What's a nutter? | |
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UptownDeb said: Um frum Brooklyn... What's a nutter?
I.e nutty...a nutter is what we over heer in England call a crazy person... | |
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gyro34 said: How were those counselors ignorant? Were they culturally insensitive? I read that people of different ethnicities tend to avoid psychotherapy precisely because of this. Yeap, counseling is expensive. I agree.
Mozfonky said: Absolutely, absolutely!..They have 0 insight, which if you are dealing with a persons inner workings you need a lot of. I would go beyond calling them biased and call the ones I had racist as well. This gets personal but since you want examples I will tell you some but not all of the story. I am a product of an Indian father,white mother, black stepfather. i think just the fact that my mom and stepdad were a mixed marriage was enough for these racists to believe that the kid (me) couldn't be norman. I was called crazy because I did not mainain eye contact with the guy. I did have problems but these clowns never helped at all. I think money is a huge part of this, along with the subtle racism. At the time, my parents and I were really at odds so, that along with my youth 17, was enough to leave me defenseless. I managed to get away from them after I turned 18, I continued counseling for years until I had a counselor advise me to pursue a girl further than I should have. She thought I was a stalker. Long story short, nobody needs "help" like that. When I look back, I realize that all I needed was myself, I'm now content to be my own man and define myself. I know a lot of other people who've gotten bad advice from not only counselors but also all kinds of people in the medical profession. The biggest problem, that I saw was that, the best interest of the individual is not there. Also, if you are black, indian or anything else, your best off never trusting these people. The way you look at the world is backwards according to them. I could go on and on, but I would say it's just a big waste of time and energy. I'm angry just thinking about it. I never let myself forget though, that at the bottom of all relationships is power and money. I have to do this because, I have an Indian way of trying to put things into harmony in a world that is just powerdriven.
Wow, buddy I feel your pain. I have had similar experiences myself. I am of a Peruvian-Hispanic heritage but I don't look like the average Peruvian. I get pissed when people assume that I am Russian, Greek, or Italian. They think that if they've met one Peruvian; then, they have met all of them. They should ask first, if they really want to find out. Here's one example from what I experienced. Back when I was about to graduate from high school, I went to counseling to find out which career I wanted to pursue. Towards the end of the first session, the psychologist stated, "Too young to get married." He pretended to know my real motivation for finding what career I wanted to pursue. I really trusted that this guy had all the answers. I was so furious that someone would take such freedom to judge me. I wonder what misinformation might he have read about Peruvian women. My Mom has three Ph.D.'s and my Dad is an engineer. We are educated and civilized people. Oh, those career invetory tests were quite expensive. Since I didn't know myself that well, I gave answers to those tests to prove that shrink wrong. Like yourself, I am convinced that only I know who I am and how to better myself. [This message was edited Thu Feb 12 9:46:59 PST 2004 by gyro34] [This message was edited Thu Feb 12 15:38:24 PST 2004 by gyro34] | |
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Prince is quite different, and obviously his genius and creativity, like many artists, puts him on that fine line of sanity. However, he seems to function just fine, and hasn't killed anyone yet, so I don't really think he's crazy per-se. Flaky might be a better term.
Prince's characters, Like Jamie Starr and Joey Coco don't mean anything. All that shows is that he's good at creating different personas. That makes him no different than any actor who develops a character, or any author who uses a pen name outside his/her regulat work. Now, changing your name to a symbol, scrawling slave on your cheek, etc. THAT'S pretty nutty stuff, but it still doesn't mean he's insane. He's a grade A flake, but that's about as far as I'd go. Oh, and I've personally hung out with Quentin Tarantino on more than one occassion. He's far from being crazy. In fact, he is one of the most down to earth celebs I've ever met. 
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Oh, and I've personally hung out with Quentin Tarantino on more than one occassion. He's far from being crazy. In fact, he is one of the most down to earth celebs I've ever met.[/quote]
Tell Quentin to get back to work, I thought Jackie Brown was ten times better than Pulp Fiction. He laid off a little after JB. Hope he wasn't discouraged. I know a writer (Sherman Alexie) who is trying to break into film and he seemed to get totally discouraged and thrown off track by the poor reception of his first film. Can't let that happen to you, gots to keep right on going. | |
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I am convinced that only I know who I am and how to better myself.
[This message was edited Thu Feb 12 9:46:59 PST 2004 by gyro34] [/quote] That's correct, and really just shows you how much of a joke the entire system is. No 17 year old knows anything about themselves. I've learned to just laugh at it all, it's all a joke, I'm gonna get a degree in sociology, mainly because it is the only subject which will tell you how much of a joke the system is. I'm not gonna get racist on here, but if I did, there wouldn't be alot of good things said. | |
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I just think Prince is an extremely eccentric man who's always been adamant about expressing his individuality freely.
That doesn't mean he's insane, only that he's quite brave to showcase his unique quirks. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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scififilmnerd said: Is Prince insane?
Probably.  Probably.Peace and Be Wild!!
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