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Printablepurplecam said: JonSnow said: revolution75 said: my observation:
judging from the "rehearsals", the wb after party (something he would have never done in '96)...the rock hall induction..the big-budget music video...the dvd rumours..etc..etc.. he is going to go at the mainstream again. I just want to see it done right this time. Not like in '90 w/ the failed Graffitti Bridge Project or '91 w/the D&P project..not like '96 or '99(so many things done wrong every time). my idea: 1)when you have the oppurtunity (like the grammys or the induction)...kick everybody's ass on that stage.. 2)no raspberry beret/take me with u or when you were mine... 3)give the "fams" what they want..open up that frigging vault and release the songs that we already have in cd quality.. 4)heck do a commentary for purple rain,utcm,gb.. 5)no religious talk--keep it a "personal matter"..just be about the music..once and for all!! 6) make an album w/13 songs that will blow our minds..no raps..no guest appearances..maybe a guitar duet w/santana..but that's about it 7)this is a long-shot but perform with the revolution once again..they can come out in the middle of the show..do a medley..and leave.. You hit it right on. These things ebb and flow. It's happened with most if not all great artists. Look at Santana, for example. He just plugged away doing his thing, and he has had stretches of massive popularity, and stretches of obscurity. Bob Dylan, David Bowie and Neil Young were all seen as washed up in the 80's, but came back big time in the 90's. But with Prince I always feel like he doesn't quite have the capacity to make a comeback, because he won't (or can't) do what is necessary. It's been there for P all this time, and it seems like he almost always makes the wrong moves. It's almost like he sat down and had a long meeting with his advisors and came up with a calculated plan to destroy his mass appeal in as short a time as possible. I could almost believe that, if he weren't so obviously desperate for a hit. Let's face it, TRC and NEWS were both in response to the failure of Rave. They were to save face. He couldn't make it on the Top 40 so suddenly he had to thumb his nose at the charts and prove he didn't care about success by making willfuly obtuse albums. Rave was the right album for a successful commercial run, but Prince screwed it up with a poor, disorganized track listing, a cover that reinforced the notion that he's just way too freaky for the mainstream, and then terrible, terrible, terrible promotion. And the fact that he was still Symbolman didn't help, either. But we'll see. Hopefully this is Prince's time in the sun again. Good Observation. I couldn't agree more with you. I think that if he doesn't comeback this year then it may never happen. Everything is set for Prince to come back to the mainsream. The question is, will Prince take full advantage of it? let's hope... he could be back on the Grammies next year taking home awards, like Santana did. | |
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Prince had'nt ever gone away. Will the fans plan a comeback? You do as I say | |
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howcomeudontcallme said: Prince had'nt ever gone away. Will the fans plan a comeback?
and you know what will be interesting is if he makes an album that sounds like 86 (or pick your fav year..86 is mine) Prince..There will still be complaints...We shall see... minor keys and drugs don't make a rollerskate jam | |
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'if he is attempting a comeback--poll'
Musicology better not be his first single. Well if he's not making a record with Nelly, Chingy, P Diddy, 50 Cent, R. Kelly--- | |
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I think it is safe to say that Prince is not attempting a "comeback". If the question were put to him, I am sure he would respond that he never left. He has consistently produced good music through his career - there is no coming back from always being there. | |
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NWF said: SassyBritches said: he could have a fleetwood mac styled comeback where he just makes a record, tours for the record and does his job. he could definitely get airplay on adult contemporary (sorry, but it's true) but he needs to be realistic about where he stands in the whole scheme of things. if he milked the record long enough, and listened to what the record exxecs have to say as far as promotion and appearances, he could certainly sell a million records or so.
But remember, Prince is not about selling records and isn't in the game for the bling-bling. He just makes music for the art of it. Either that, or he's lying to us. I don't know. It would be nice of him to make millions again and become popular again, but that's not where he's at now. He's like Thelonius Monk now: an artist that rose to fame and descended into obscurity. Whether he chooses to rise again is up to him. Prince has proven that he is not chasing more fame and fortune. Look at the last few releases. Is NEWS a commercial release? Instrumental jazz music doesnt sell alot of records. I was there when Prince was obscure in the pre 1999 era and I loved the underground phase of his career. You had to find a store that carried his records. Hell, Dirty Mind had a warning stciker on it years before the PMRC and some shops refused to stock it. Only the coolest funksters knew about Prince and had the records. Then the rest of the world discovered him after Little Red Corvette got on MTV. Now, in the maturity stage of his career, Prince is doing the most progressive and challenging music of his life. Those of us who grew up with him are the ones that appreciate his lack of popularity. He has done ot in the besyt way possible: on his one terms and still making great albums. Think I am wrong? Ask the Academy about NEWS. Who the hell bought that album? Doesnt matter. It is great and Prince is back at the Grammies some 20 years after Purple Rain. Who needs popularity or a so called comeback. Prince never left. | |
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undulatingacrobat said: Prince has proven that he is not chasing more fame and fortune. Look at the last few releases. Is NEWS a commercial release? I disagree. Prince has shown again and again that he deeply cares about commercial success. How bitter does Don't Play Me sound? I think he's protesting just a bit too much in that one. After the commercial failure of Rave, he turned around and made non-commercial albums The Rainbow Children and NEWS so that he can claim he doesn't care about Top 40 success. This way the failure of Rave to crack the Top 40 doesn't seem like a big deal because Prince is so "Above" the Top 40. But the fact is, that Rave - as much as I like much of the album - was a calculated attempt to have a commercial comeback, and he's done this numerous times in his career - particularly with Diamonds & Pearls. Let's not kid ourselves... if every single he released could hit #1 on the Top 40, that would suit Prince and his ego just fine. | |
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Does "right" mean huge commercial success? Then no.
Pretty much whatever you mean, I think the answer is no. But I'm still happy to be able to see him get any attention at all, because he's still better than pretty much everyone else. Let's take what we can get.  | |
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MelissaC said: Does "right" mean huge commercial success? Then no.
Pretty much whatever you mean, I think the answer is no. But I'm still happy to be able to see him get any attention at all, because he's still better than pretty much everyone else. Let's take what we can get. 
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rdhull said: MelissaC said: Does "right" mean huge commercial success? Then no.
Pretty much whatever you mean, I think the answer is no. But I'm still happy to be able to see him get any attention at all, because he's still better than pretty much everyone else. Let's take what we can get.
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Judging from the new material he droppped in Vegas I don't think his new material has legs. If the timing had been different & he released the rainbow children now w/ major backing & a grammy appearence in tow minus the silly voice over he could make a huge impact. He always seems to Phuk it up when he has a chance to bring in new fans ie, releasing the wrong single etc. so on & so forth.. we've all heard it before. I'll be happy if he just brings the house down & reminds everyone what a real musician/performer looks & sounds like. He can create a buzz like no one else no matter what his present material sounds like, he just needs to recognize the platform & go for it. |
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revolution75 said: How many think that he will do it right this time?
The only time Prince ever did anything "right" was when he had WB's backing. Ever since he split with them he's swung from fuck up to fuck up like a donkey's dick in a lead condom. He'll hopefully have a well-organised record company machine behind him and the sort of people running it who won't mistake his stupidity for "genius" (i.e: his Purple PeePee staff). There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Prince has proven that he is not chasing more fame and fortune. Look at the last few releases. Is NEWS a commercial release? Instrumental jazz music doesnt sell alot of records. I was there when Prince was obscure in the pre 1999 era and I loved the underground phase of his career. You had to find a store that carried his records. Hell, Dirty Mind had a warning stciker on it years before the PMRC and some shops refused to stock it. Only the coolest funksters knew about Prince and had the records. Then the rest of the world discovered him after Little Red Corvette got on MTV. Now, in the maturity stage of his career, Prince is doing the most progressive and challenging music of his life. Those of us who grew up with him are the ones that appreciate his lack of popularity. He has done ot in the besyt way possible: on his one terms and still making great albums. Think I am wrong? Ask the Academy about NEWS. Who the hell bought that album? Doesnt matter. It is great and Prince is back at the Grammies some 20 years after Purple Rain.
Who needs popularity or a so called comeback. Prince never left.[/quote] You're so right! @rt, amsterdam, holland On the other hand: ----- I disagree. Prince has shown again and again that he deeply cares about commercial success. How bitter does Don't Play Me sound? I think he's protesting just a bit too much in that one. After the commercial failure of Rave, he turned around and made non-commercial albums The Rainbow Children and NEWS so that he can claim he doesn't care about Top 40 success. This way the failure of Rave to crack the Top 40 doesn't seem like a big deal because Prince is so "Above" the Top 40. But the fact is, that Rave - as much as I like much of the album - was a calculated attempt to have a commercial comeback, and he's done this numerous times in his career - particularly with Diamonds & Pearls. Let's not kid ourselves... if every single he released could hit #1 on the Top 40, that would suit Prince and his ego just fine. ----- ....this sounds plausible as well. So what's left? A man with a great career that keeps ME going for 25 (!) years now. A man that keeps surprising me and keeps feeding me. I love it! I LOVE HIS MUSIC! [This message was edited Thu Feb 5 1:49:17 PST 2004 by art] I'm a Rainbow Children, Xpectation, News and Musicology lover and I'm startin'to be a 3121 lover. | |
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I feel really angry.
This is only my opinion, but comeback? Like he is not currently successful? This question all depends on what ones individual values are with regards to success. I don't subscribe to making millions and winning some more fans as success. To me, success is like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder. Prince has his own way of measuring his own success and I think that involves artistic creativity rather than keeping an eye on cash and fans. To me, success is any action that I perform that I can love about myself. | |
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art said: Prince has proven that he is not chasing more fame and fortune. Look at the last few releases. Is NEWS a commercial release? Instrumental jazz music doesnt sell alot of records. I was there when Prince was obscure in the pre 1999 era and I loved the underground phase of his career. You had to find a store that carried his records. Hell, Dirty Mind had a warning stciker on it years before the PMRC and some shops refused to stock it. Only the coolest funksters knew about Prince and had the records. Then the rest of the world discovered him after Little Red Corvette got on MTV. Now, in the maturity stage of his career, Prince is doing the most progressive and challenging music of his life. Those of us who grew up with him are the ones that appreciate his lack of popularity. He has done ot in the besyt way possible: on his one terms and still making great albums. Think I am wrong? Ask the Academy about NEWS. Who the hell bought that album? Doesnt matter. It is great and Prince is back at the Grammies some 20 years after Purple Rain.
Who needs popularity or a so called comeback. Prince never left. You're so right! @rt, amsterdam, holland On the other hand: --- I disagree. Prince has shown again and again that he deeply cares about commercial success. How bitter does Don't Play Me sound? I think he's protesting just a bit too much in that one. After the commercial failure of Rave, he turned around and made non-commercial albums The Rainbow Children and NEWS so that he can claim he doesn't care about Top 40 success. This way the failure of Rave to crack the Top 40 doesn't seem like a big deal because Prince is so "Above" the Top 40. But the fact is, that Rave - as much as I like much of the album - was a calculated attempt to have a commercial comeback, and he's done this numerous times in his career - particularly with Diamonds & Pearls. Let's not kid ourselves... if every single he released could hit #1 on the Top 40, that would suit Prince and his ego just fine. --- ...this sounds plausible as well. So what's left? A man with a great career that keeps ME going for 25 (!) years now. A man that keeps surprising me and keeps feeding me. I love it! I LOVE HIS MUSIC! [This message was edited Thu Feb 5 1:49:17 PST 2004 by art] [/quote] And that is what it's all about. And damn i wanna say 'amen'.  | |
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