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Thread started 01/07/04 10:56pm

NWF

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That whole "Rude Boy" thing......

...It had to have come from the 2-Tone ska culture. Prince was sporting that button around the same time of the British ska explosion. Maybe he was fan of them bands like Madness & The Specials and stuff. Or I guess he thought it was just a fashionable thing and was just apart of his Punk/New Wave phase.
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Reply #1 posted 01/07/04 11:09pm

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I hear punk/new wave influences in Prince's very early stuff..but I doubt he even knows what ska is. Still, he might be a closet fan..
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Reply #2 posted 01/07/04 11:22pm

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VAMPIRELLA said:

I hear punk/new wave influences in Prince's very early stuff..but I doubt he even knows what ska is. Still, he might be a closet fan..



He knows EXACTLY what Ska is/was!! smile Don't let the smooth taste fool ya...
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Reply #3 posted 01/07/04 11:31pm

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Maybe he does...he's pretty eclectic.
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Reply #4 posted 01/07/04 11:34pm

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"Rude Boy" is what Larry calls Prince if he doesn't swallow. sperm
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #5 posted 01/07/04 11:35pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

"Rude Boy" is what Larry calls Prince if he doesn't swallow. sperm




NO..I think your getting that confused with "Baby Brother"


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Reply #6 posted 01/07/04 11:43pm

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NWF said:

...It had to have come from the 2-Tone ska culture. Prince was sporting that button around the same time of the British ska explosion. Maybe he was fan of them bands like Madness & The Specials and stuff. Or I guess he thought it was just a fashionable thing and was just apart of his Punk/New Wave phase.

I think it had more to do with the fact that at that time he most likely related to the Rudeboy ethos, and the iconoclastic nature it represented. Prince was just as much a sort of Rudeboy of American music, most of which couldn't be categorized.

Although it was during the punk and new wave emergence, and in turn the ermergence of British ska, ska has its origins in Jamaica, as a precusor to Reggae.
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Reply #7 posted 01/07/04 11:45pm

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Agreed. His music was sexual and controversial..RudeBoy encapsulates all Prince used to be.
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Reply #8 posted 01/08/04 12:50am

NWF

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Supernova said:

NWF said:

...It had to have come from the 2-Tone ska culture. Prince was sporting that button around the same time of the British ska explosion. Maybe he was fan of them bands like Madness & The Specials and stuff. Or I guess he thought it was just a fashionable thing and was just apart of his Punk/New Wave phase.

I think it had more to do with the fact that at that time he most likely related to the Rudeboy ethos, and the iconoclastic nature it represented. Prince was just as much a sort of Rudeboy of American music, most of which couldn't be categorized.

Although it was during the punk and new wave emergence, and in turn the ermergence of British ska, ska has its origins in Jamaica, as a precusor to Reggae.


Maybe. So I guess the question now would be, was Prince sporting the whole "Rude Boy" button and image because it reflected his attitude and image, or was he just an advocate of a fashion trend derived from the 2-Tone era?
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Reply #9 posted 01/08/04 1:13am

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yeah...

i still have my 'Rude Boy' button that i nabbed from my babysitter when i was a kid. shame shame!

but, i had to teach her a lesson, because she was the same
person who hipped me to & would sneak me listens to Dirty Mind when it 1st came out.

now i have lived a corrupt (but funky) life of late nites, loud music & lots of ladies n alcohal.

so, shame on her.

yeah, shame, shame on u shari, my sexy babysitter with braces.

shame on u.

wherever your sweet-ass is wink





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Reply #10 posted 01/08/04 6:59am

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NWF said:

Supernova said:

NWF said:

...It had to have come from the 2-Tone ska culture. Prince was sporting that button around the same time of the British ska explosion. Maybe he was fan of them bands like Madness & The Specials and stuff. Or I guess he thought it was just a fashionable thing and was just apart of his Punk/New Wave phase.

I think it had more to do with the fact that at that time he most likely related to the Rudeboy ethos, and the iconoclastic nature it represented. Prince was just as much a sort of Rudeboy of American music, most of which couldn't be categorized.

Although it was during the punk and new wave emergence, and in turn the ermergence of British ska, ska has its origins in Jamaica, as a precusor to Reggae.


Maybe. So I guess the question now would be, was Prince sporting the whole "Rude Boy" button and image because it reflected his attitude and image, or was he just an advocate of a fashion trend derived from the 2-Tone era?

seems more like the latter than the former. nod
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Reply #11 posted 01/08/04 7:48am

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NWF said:


Maybe. So I guess the question now would be, was Prince sporting the whole "Rude Boy" button and image because it reflected his attitude and image, or was he just an advocate of a fashion trend derived from the 2-Tone era?

seems more like the latter than the former. nod


I would have though it was the opposite. I just can't picture prince shakin' his dandruff to Bad Manners, and I haven't seen him use any other iconicry or fashion from the ska era. I bet he just saw the rudeboy button at a market and thought 'That is sooo me!' (whilst revising the lyrics to 'Sister' in his head).
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Reply #12 posted 01/08/04 10:46am

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Anybody got a spare 'Rude Boy' badge? I want one! fit
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Reply #13 posted 01/08/04 10:53am

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Marrk said:

Anybody got a spare 'Rude Boy' badge? I want one! fit


Lee Bowyer might have one rolleyes
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Reply #14 posted 01/08/04 11:02am

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VAMPIRELLA said:

Maybe he does...he's pretty eclectic.


OK...I'm a newb around here, and have been out of the Prince loop for a little while. Who the heck is this "Larry" I keep hearing these funny comments about?
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Reply #15 posted 01/08/04 11:18am

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spiffnme said:

VAMPIRELLA said:

Maybe he does...he's pretty eclectic.


OK...I'm a newb around here, and have been out of the Prince loop for a little while. Who the heck is this "Larry" I keep hearing these funny comments about?


Ignorance is bliss! No really, it is! lol
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Reply #16 posted 01/08/04 3:11pm

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Seriously...what's the deal??
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Reply #17 posted 01/08/04 8:54pm

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NWF said:

Supernova said:

NWF said:

...It had to have come from the 2-Tone ska culture. Prince was sporting that button around the same time of the British ska explosion. Maybe he was fan of them bands like Madness & The Specials and stuff. Or I guess he thought it was just a fashionable thing and was just apart of his Punk/New Wave phase.

I think it had more to do with the fact that at that time he most likely related to the Rudeboy ethos, and the iconoclastic nature it represented. Prince was just as much a sort of Rudeboy of American music, most of which couldn't be categorized.

Although it was during the punk and new wave emergence, and in turn the ermergence of British ska, ska has its origins in Jamaica, as a precusor to Reggae.


Maybe. So I guess the question now would be, was Prince sporting the whole "Rude Boy" button and image because it reflected his attitude and image, or was he just an advocate of a fashion trend derived from the 2-Tone era?

Only he can tell you for sure.
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Reply #18 posted 01/08/04 11:37pm

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spiffnme said:

VAMPIRELLA said:

Maybe he does...he's pretty eclectic.


OK...I'm a newb around here, and have been out of the Prince loop for a little while. Who the heck is this "Larry" I keep hearing these funny comments about?




...larry graham
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Reply #19 posted 01/09/04 3:03am

justhemusic

jazzvibrator said:

spiffnme said:
OK...I'm a newb around here, and have been out of the Prince loop for a little while. Who the heck is this "Larry" I keep hearing these funny comments about?




...larry graham[/quote]

Larry Graham...justifiably respected famous bassist for his great work in the groups 'Graham Central Station' & 'Sly & The Family Stone'...but more imfamously known of late as 'big brother Larry' for be-friending Prince and probably the one responsible for leading 'little brother' Prince down the 'no more cursing, your old stuff is evil, everything is evil, everybody else is wrong, aint no room to disagree, holyer than thou' road...

look... I'm all for folks believing whatever they want to believe...i really dont give a crap what religion prince worships...but to deny or attempt to clean up or supress the old music that he once created...and that in a way created him...the same music that Prince used to call 'his children'..to try to do some revisionist thing and in a way deny or minimize some of it...well thats another thing entirely...thats messin with the music...thats gettin in the way of MY old school jamming dammit! smile

anyway thats who this 'larry' you keep hearing about is...look for the dude in the BIG white hat...
[This message was edited Fri Jan 9 3:05:38 PST 2004 by justhemusic]
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Reply #20 posted 01/13/04 10:00am

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spiffnme said:

VAMPIRELLA said:

Maybe he does...he's pretty eclectic.


OK...I'm a newb around here, and have been out of the Prince loop for a little while. Who the heck is this "Larry" I keep hearing these funny comments about?



Nobody's talkin', eh?
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Reply #21 posted 01/13/04 10:04am

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spiffnme said:

spiffnme said:

VAMPIRELLA said:

Maybe he does...he's pretty eclectic.


OK...I'm a newb around here, and have been out of the Prince loop for a little while. Who the heck is this "Larry" I keep hearing these funny comments about?



Nobody's talkin', eh?

rolleyes look up.
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Reply #22 posted 01/14/04 7:45pm

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ooops. *blushing with embarassment*
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Reply #23 posted 01/14/04 7:55pm

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Prince has been into Fishbone since waaay back. Dirty Mind got airplay around here at the same time that The Specials did. It's in his roots.
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Reply #24 posted 01/14/04 8:03pm

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AsylumUtopia said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

NWF said:


Maybe. So I guess the question now would be, was Prince sporting the whole "Rude Boy" button and image because it reflected his attitude and image, or was he just an advocate of a fashion trend derived from the 2-Tone era?

seems more like the latter than the former. nod


I would have though it was the opposite. I just can't picture prince shakin' his dandruff to Bad Manners, and I haven't seen him use any other iconicry or fashion from the ska era. I bet he just saw the rudeboy button at a market and thought 'That is sooo me!' (whilst revising the lyrics to 'Sister' in his head).

au contraire. do some studyin on the dm-era...you'll be quite surprised at how wrong you are in your statement. wink
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Reply #25 posted 01/14/04 8:07pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Prince has been into Fishbone since waaay back. Dirty Mind got airplay around here at the same time that The Specials did. It's in his roots.

ah, the specials' album that came out that same year...it's mahvelous. horns
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Reply #26 posted 01/15/04 9:29am

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sigh memmmoriiies
peace & wildsign
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