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Thread started 01/13/04 12:21pm

Milty

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So who thinks 2004 is gonna blow up for Prince in a Santana stylee?

i know we ain't gonna see no Grammy extravaganza next year but are we gonna be hearing Prince on the radio and the charts and chit?
is he going to be returned to his rightful place as a music mover and shaker?
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Reply #1 posted 01/13/04 12:31pm

OdysseyMiles

When Santana did 'Supernatural', I thought about that.
I know Prince is capable of doing it. But at this point, who knows if he even wants it?
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Reply #2 posted 01/13/04 12:31pm

Supernova

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Milty said:

So who thinks 2004 is gonna blow up for Prince in a Santana stylee?

Hope not.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #3 posted 01/13/04 12:31pm

Milty

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OdysseyMiles said:

When Santana did 'Supernatural', I thought about that.
I know Prince is capable of doing it. But at this point, who knows if he even wants it?


good point.
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Reply #4 posted 01/13/04 12:37pm

Savage

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I definately think Prince is going to make another major impact on the music scene. I even had a prmanition of it. Prince on the front page of the Tabloids in the UK.

2004 The year of the Prince!
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Reply #5 posted 01/13/04 12:43pm

SassyBritches

i think you guys are kidding yourselves. prince is never going o be a major player again. and whoever said "who knows if he even wants it?" is just putting up some cushion for the blow. prince wants popular success the way any business man wants it. why do you think he charges so much for merchandise, tickets, etc.? he is trying to make up for not being popular.

no, prince is not gonna blow up in 2004. i will give everyone here 5 dollars each if he does! the most he'll get is some kind of nostalgia throw back. but it won't amount to much.
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Reply #6 posted 01/13/04 12:44pm

lolarose

Prince is a musical genius. He can do it he just has to want to. He seems to me to be on some experimental tip right now just doing what he feels. He ain't trying to make nothin for the radio. If he wanted to make a hit for the masses he could.
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Reply #7 posted 01/13/04 12:56pm

OdysseyMiles

SassyBritches said:

i think you guys are kidding yourselves. prince is never going o be a major player again. and whoever said "who knows if he even wants it?" is just putting up some cushion for the blow. prince wants popular success the way any business man wants it. why do you think he charges so much for merchandise, tickets, etc.? he is trying to make up for not being popular.

no, prince is not gonna blow up in 2004. i will give everyone here 5 dollars each if he does! the most he'll get is some kind of nostalgia throw back. but it won't amount to much.


I honestly wasn't "putting up some cushion for the blow". If it doesn't happen, it won't be a blow for me, because it's not really that important. I'm just happy getting any music at all from the dude.
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Reply #8 posted 01/13/04 12:57pm

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Supernova said:

Milty said:

So who thinks 2004 is gonna blow up for Prince in a Santana stylee?

Hope not.

amen.
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Reply #9 posted 01/13/04 1:12pm

Thumparello

Maybe if Prince does a record with Chingy or 50 Cent.
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Reply #10 posted 01/13/04 1:14pm

Handclapsfinga
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Thumparello said:

Maybe if Prince does a record with Chingy or 50 Cent.

shake oh god, no. shake
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Reply #11 posted 01/13/04 1:19pm

SassyBritches

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Thumparello said:

Maybe if Prince does a record with Chingy or 50 Cent.

shake oh god, no. shake

co-sign lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/13/04 1:26pm

HobbesLeCute

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Well if you're asking if I think Santana is going to send Prince a bomb disguised as a 2004 calendar, then yes, yes I do.
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Reply #13 posted 01/13/04 1:35pm

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Numerology says this will be a good year for Prince.

(Whatever that means.)
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Reply #14 posted 01/13/04 2:03pm

skywalker

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Prince "wanting" to be on the charts again has a lot to do with it. All he needs to do is whore himself to a major label. Look, we know how it works- any one can be a big star. Hell, American Idol shows you how the industry does it. They just take someone with a speck of talent and they turn them to gold. People are on the charts ,not because we want them there, but because the record labels want to sell them to us.
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Reply #15 posted 01/14/04 3:17am

DrD

no one having heard musicology would think so!

(actually that may ultimately explain why may have given up his idea to release that video...)
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Reply #16 posted 01/14/04 8:27am

softandwet

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no one having heard musicology would think so!

(actually that may ultimately explain why may have given up his idea to release that video...)



well people who saw it live in ozzie thought it was great. so who knows? and how do you know he aint releasing the video? we'll see

i think the very best we could hope for is a platinum album worldwide, ie a million sales in US. 300k in UK. i think that would be a great year for him and see where he goes after that.
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Reply #17 posted 01/14/04 11:22am

lemoncrush

It's apparent he doesn't have the interest in becoming hugely popular again. He doesn't even promote himself or his website properly.
His most diehard fans don't know what the hell is coming next
(if anything) because he's so mysterious.
It's entirely up to him, but personally I don't see him doing
much to have his own fanbase embrace him, much less
the general public.
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Reply #18 posted 01/14/04 11:26am

jfs

lemoncrush said:

It's apparent he doesn't have the interest in becoming hugely popular again. He doesn't even promote himself or his website properly.
His most diehard fans don't know what the hell is coming next
(if anything) because he's so mysterious.
It's entirely up to him, but personally I don't see him doing
much to have his own fanbase embrace him, much less
the general public.
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Right. He's in his own world and does too many self-destructive things to recapture wider attention.
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Reply #19 posted 01/14/04 11:56am

cborgman

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he's done for good as far as the general populus goes... at this point he is living on his abilities keeping the small core of us left still interested.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #20 posted 01/14/04 12:23pm

NewPowerSoulSi
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He has turned down numerous requests for his music to be sampled by a lot of the rappers. If he would allow that, I think he would blow up.
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Reply #21 posted 01/14/04 12:40pm

papabeat

There's no reason to think he will blow up 'Santana style.' That was the entire purpose of his guest-driven Rave, and that was an utter critical and commercial bomb. Why would he attempt that again?
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Reply #22 posted 01/14/04 3:16pm

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papabeat said:"There's no reason to think he will blow up 'Santana style.' That was the entire purpose of his guest-driven Rave, and that was an utter critical and commercial bomb. Why would he attempt that again?"


Rave a critical bomb? USA Today sure had a nice review. And a commercial bomb by whose standards?

Parade/Under the Cherry Moon-also a commercial and critical bomb
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Reply #23 posted 01/14/04 5:07pm

papabeat

skywalker said:

papabeat said:"There's no reason to think he will blow up 'Santana style.' That was the entire purpose of his guest-driven Rave, and that was an utter critical and commercial bomb. Why would he attempt that again?"


Rave a critical bomb? USA Today sure had a nice review. And a commercial bomb by whose standards?

Parade/Under the Cherry Moon-also a commercial and critical bomb

Let's see... Parade got to #3 on the charts, and had a number 1 hit (Kiss) that still gets solid radio play, as well as Sometimes it Snows, regarded as one of his best works. Sounds like a commercial hit to me. I also found many glowing reviews online.

Rave got to a stratospheric #18 on the charts, and had a moderate hit with Greatest Romance, a song no non-Prince fan could name today even with the lyric sheet in front of them. Among the reviews I found for it was one from RS that ends, "The quality of these few sublime moments outweighs the lackluster album around them."
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Reply #24 posted 01/14/04 5:12pm

papabeat

skywalker said:

papabeat said:"There's no reason to think he will blow up 'Santana style.' That was the entire purpose of his guest-driven Rave, and that was an utter critical and commercial bomb. Why would he attempt that again?"


Rave a critical bomb? USA Today sure had a nice review. And a commercial bomb by whose standards?

Parade/Under the Cherry Moon-also a commercial and critical bomb


Since the post is comparing Prince to Santana, it's safe to say that Rave was a commercial bomb by Supernatural standards. I believe it was also a commercial bomb by Prince's standards, given his almost immediate disgust of Clive Davis after Rave's release. Also, while Rave may have gotten a glowing review from USA Today, it was Supernatural that received eight Grammy's.
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Reply #25 posted 01/15/04 6:51pm

realm

Yeah, It will be a good year for Prince! The only way Prince could go platinum is if he worked with Titty Spears n recorded a song called "fuck me baby one more time"
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Reply #26 posted 01/15/04 6:56pm

Spanky

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2000-flow is gonna be the fatness...
I wish u heaven
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Reply #27 posted 01/15/04 7:00pm

realm

skywalker said:

Prince "wanting" to be on the charts again has a lot to do with it. All he needs to do is whore himself to a major label. Look, we know how it works- any one can be a big star. Hell, American Idol shows you how the industry does it. They just take someone with a speck of talent and they turn them to gold. People are on the charts ,not because we want them there, but because the record labels want to sell them to us.


Its kind of like the supermarket, they only sell us food cause we have to eat, the god damn supermarket! Back in the day when Prince ruled the market was different! All the big hair and flashy clothes. Its the record co., mtv and radio that won't play a true artist like Prince. It would not be that songs like TGRES or Bet U Bye golly were subpar then other songs by other artists. Oh, no. The only reason why the Most Beautiful Girl in the World was such a hit was because it was a great song, and all of radio decided to play it even though there was no sort of payoff. Prince is smart not wanting success, could you imagine him being played on the radio, of no when other artists like U2, Sting are having success cause they are part of the system and people are being tricked into buying U2 albums, it would be a shame if he had success and people bought his albums and listened to them! Prince might have to write some pop songs like those from the 84-87 period and we would much rather have the NEWS cd. I hardely listened to Purple Rain but have gone thru 5 copies of NEWS already! Its all a conspiracy WAKE UP!
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Reply #28 posted 01/15/04 7:16pm

HobbesLeCute

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realm said:

have gone thru 5 copies of NEWS already!

You need to take better care of your CDs.
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Reply #29 posted 01/15/04 7:28pm

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realm said:

skywalker said:

Prince "wanting" to be on the charts again has a lot to do with it. All he needs to do is whore himself to a major label. Look, we know how it works- any one can be a big star. Hell, American Idol shows you how the industry does it. They just take someone with a speck of talent and they turn them to gold. People are on the charts ,not because we want them there, but because the record labels want to sell them to us.


Its kind of like the supermarket, they only sell us food cause we have to eat, the god damn supermarket! Back in the day when Prince ruled the market was different! All the big hair and flashy clothes. Its the record co., mtv and radio that won't play a true artist like Prince. It would not be that songs like TGRES or Bet U Bye golly were subpar then other songs by other artists. Oh, no. The only reason why the Most Beautiful Girl in the World was such a hit was because it was a great song, and all of radio decided to play it even though there was no sort of payoff. Prince is smart not wanting success, could you imagine him being played on the radio, of no when other artists like U2, Sting are having success cause they are part of the system and people are being tricked into buying U2 albums, it would be a shame if he had success and people bought his albums and listened to them! Prince might have to write some pop songs like those from the 84-87 period and we would much rather have the NEWS cd. I hardely listened to Purple Rain but have gone thru 5 copies of NEWS already! Its all a conspiracy WAKE UP!

Interesting - How do u manage to go thru 5 cds?
WHY SHOULD I DO THAT, WHEN I CAN DO THIS
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