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Thread started 01/04/04 10:22am

MattyJam

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My girlfriend heard Raspberry Beret today... for the first time!

I couldn't believe she didn't know this song.

She knows I'm a Prince nut and asked me to burn her a CD. She's just heard Raspberry Beret, When Doves Cry and Sign O The Times for the first time. She "vaguely recalls" hearing Purple Rain somewhere before.

She's not really out-of-the-loop musically (like most people, she's pretty much ignorant to anything that hasn't been in the charts in the last two years), but is still heavily into what she likes.

The sad truth is, even music fans of today would be hard pressed to hum you a Prince song. Songs like Raspberry Beret, When Doves Cry and Kiss ("isn't that a Tom Jones song?") just aren't as firmly engraved into the general publics memories, as say, Billie Jean or Like A Prayer are.

Both MJ and Madonna have, over time, become far less significant in the impact and general importance of their new releases. It's no longer an event when these artists release a new album or song. They have their fanbases, which are large enough to still earn them respectable chart positions (even that is more than you can say for Prince at the moment). But one thing can't be denied... the significance of their back catalogue.

Jackson's Numbers Ones is pretty much a re-packaged HIStory Disc 1, with Smooth Criminal and Dirty Diana added on for good measure. Yet it has already sold over a million in the UK alone. Whilst Warner's Very Best Of Prince charted and sold reasonably well a year or two back, the tracks don't strike a nerve with the general public the way Jackson's or Madonna's do.

I'm not saying this is right (it's a crying shame in my opinion. While Madonna was singing Like A Virgin and Material Girl, Prince was writing Sign O The Times and The Cross), but it's the sad truth.

Maybe if Prince had made a more conscious effort to remain significant (and I believe he could easily have done this without "selling out" - he managed to remain fresh and interesting in the eighties - all the while staying true to his roots) then maybe his wealth of hits wouldn't be so tragically overlooked.

As it stands, Prince is no more than a name to most people these days (if that). That little guy who used to be like Michael Jackson. The strange man who became a symbol and sings like a woman. Isn't he gay anyway?

What a crying shame such a talented man, who could touch so many more peoples lives, is being wasted.

To end on a positive note, my girlfriend absolutely adores the CD I've burned her and has already asked me what albums from his back catalogue I'd recommend.

She was shocked when I told her she had around twentyfive to choose from.
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Reply #1 posted 01/04/04 10:37am

Anxiety

I had someone at my job ask me last week, "Who's David Bowie?"

eyepop

Every time I think I can't be shocked by how sheltered some people are, something new pops up.
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Reply #2 posted 01/04/04 11:43am

rdhull

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I've already said his catalogue makes him a national treasure in the great songbook canon..as well as internationl (lova) treasure...but y'all don't hear me though.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #3 posted 01/04/04 2:01pm

laurarichardso
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rdhull said:

I've already said his catalogue makes him a national treasure in the great songbook canon..as well as internationl (lova) treasure...but y'all don't hear me though.

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I think we are going to be hearing more of his music due to
the Universal deal.
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Reply #4 posted 01/04/04 2:04pm

bananacologne

Anxiety said:

I had someone at my job ask me last week, "Who's David Bowie?"

eyepop

Every time I think I can't be shocked by how sheltered some people are, something new pops up.


WTF!!! fishslap
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Reply #5 posted 01/04/04 2:09pm

Supernova

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MattyJam said:

The sad truth is, even music fans of today would be hard pressed to hum you a Prince song. Songs like Raspberry Beret, When Doves Cry and Kiss ("isn't that a Tom Jones song?") just aren't as firmly engraved into the general publics memories, as say, Billie Jean or Like A Prayer are.

Maybe that's true in whatever area you reside in, but in most places the proliferation of 80s radio formats makes it possible that anybody who listens will remember Prince. Because he sure isn't shut out of that format. Not to mention the already existing "old school" formats.

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[This message was edited Sun Jan 4 22:23:59 PST 2004 by Supernova]
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #6 posted 01/04/04 2:22pm

Anxiety

bananacologne said:

Anxiety said:

I had someone at my job ask me last week, "Who's David Bowie?"

eyepop

Every time I think I can't be shocked by how sheltered some people are, something new pops up.


WTF!!! fishslap



After trying unsuccessfully to get her to relate to some of his big hits, I tried "you know, he's Iman's husband."

Her response: "Oh, okay - I knew she married some white dude. I didn't know he was a singer."
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Reply #7 posted 01/04/04 2:23pm

Revolution

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bananacologne said:

Anxiety said:

I had someone at my job ask me last week, "Who's David Bowie?"

eyepop

Every time I think I can't be shocked by how sheltered some people are, something new pops up.


WTF!!! fishslap


falloff...I was just thinking...with your avatar, WTF? should be your response to EVERY comment..lol...it's so fitting with that face.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #8 posted 01/04/04 2:24pm

Handclapsfinga
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Anxiety said:

After trying unsuccessfully to get her to relate to some of his big hits, I tried "you know, he's Iman's husband."

Her response: "Oh, okay - I knew she married some white dude. I didn't know he was a singer."

that is some ill shit right there. whofarted
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Reply #9 posted 01/04/04 2:29pm

Anxiety

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Anxiety said:

After trying unsuccessfully to get her to relate to some of his big hits, I tried "you know, he's Iman's husband."

Her response: "Oh, okay - I knew she married some white dude. I didn't know he was a singer."

that is some ill shit right there. whofarted


I was going to make a CD of Bowie classics in an effort to educate the poor lamb, but I'm starting to suspect she might be Amish or something, and I'll have to explain what a CD does.
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Reply #10 posted 01/07/04 1:47pm

MattyJam

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*BUMP*
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Reply #11 posted 01/07/04 1:56pm

OdysseyMiles

It's cool. Prince is still highly respected by true music lovers and especially MUSICIANS thumbs up!
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Reply #12 posted 01/07/04 1:57pm

Lleena

One of my favourites of his worship
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Reply #13 posted 01/07/04 1:59pm

MrAgreeable

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Mine only found out what a chocolate sandwich was last night.
Ohhh that robot!
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Reply #14 posted 01/07/04 4:39pm

rockwilder

Anxiety said:[quote]I had someone at my job ask me last week, "Who's David Bowie?"

:that's just stupid.
"I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill"
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Reply #15 posted 01/07/04 6:27pm

whodknee

Believe it or not, there's a world outside of Prince and Bowie-- or so I'm told. smile
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Reply #16 posted 01/07/04 6:54pm

thetimefan

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MattyJam said:

I couldn't believe she didn't know this song.

She knows I'm a Prince nut and asked me to burn her a CD. She's just heard Raspberry Beret, When Doves Cry and Sign O The Times for the first time. She "vaguely recalls" hearing Purple Rain somewhere before.

She's not really out-of-the-loop musically (like most people, she's pretty much ignorant to anything that hasn't been in the charts in the last two years), but is still heavily into what she likes.

The sad truth is, even music fans of today would be hard pressed to hum you a Prince song. Songs like Raspberry Beret, When Doves Cry and Kiss ("isn't that a Tom Jones song?") just aren't as firmly engraved into the general publics memories, as say, Billie Jean or Like A Prayer are.

Both MJ and Madonna have, over time, become far less significant in the impact and general importance of their new releases. It's no longer an event when these artists release a new album or song. They have their fanbases, which are large enough to still earn them respectable chart positions (even that is more than you can say for Prince at the moment). But one thing can't be denied... the significance of their back catalogue.

Jackson's Numbers Ones is pretty much a re-packaged HIStory Disc 1, with Smooth Criminal and Dirty Diana added on for good measure. Yet it has already sold over a million in the UK alone. Whilst Warner's Very Best Of Prince charted and sold reasonably well a year or two back, the tracks don't strike a nerve with the general public the way Jackson's or Madonna's do.

I'm not saying this is right (it's a crying shame in my opinion. While Madonna was singing Like A Virgin and Material Girl, Prince was writing Sign O The Times and The Cross), but it's the sad truth.

Maybe if Prince had made a more conscious effort to remain significant (and I believe he could easily have done this without "selling out" - he managed to remain fresh and interesting in the eighties - all the while staying true to his roots) then maybe his wealth of hits wouldn't be so tragically overlooked.

As it stands, Prince is no more than a name to most people these days (if that). That little guy who used to be like Michael Jackson. The strange man who became a symbol and sings like a woman. Isn't he gay anyway?

What a crying shame such a talented man, who could touch so many more peoples lives, is being wasted.

To end on a positive note, my girlfriend absolutely adores the CD I've burned her and has already asked me what albums from his back catalogue I'd recommend.

She was shocked when I told her she had around twentyfive to choose from.


Maybe cuz MTV and the other musical channels played MJ and Madonna videos more than Prince?. Also most of MJ's songs and some of Madonna's r more radio friendly than Prince's too.

Who knows why Prince's music isn't as well-known?...perhaps some people don't 'get' Prince...ya know?.
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