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Reply #30 posted 12/18/03 2:56pm

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You forgot, Do Yourself A Favor, Uh Huh, Work That Fat, Make It Through The Storm, Donna, We Can Work It Out, Big Tall Wall, Eternity, Purple Music, Billys Sunglasses etc..
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #31 posted 12/18/03 2:56pm

m3taverse

Tom said:

He's run out of excuses for not releasing them, the ball has been in his court for several years now.

The mysterious vault phenomenon is really wearing thin, and to be honest, im somewhat bored with the bootlegged tracks since Ive had them for over 10 years now.


ah, i see you missed the recent "innerview" he did for that hawaiian paper ... in it he says he'll get to releasing the vault as soon as the record industry dies
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #32 posted 12/18/03 3:00pm

m3taverse

"Once, as he says, "the record industry is put to death," he'll probably release more exploratory material that hasn't seen the "legal" light of day, including, hopefully, sessions with the late Miles Davis."

http://starbulletin.com/2...tory2.html
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #33 posted 12/19/03 2:23am

Abrazo

I think it does matter what he says.
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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Reply #34 posted 12/20/03 2:15am

TonyC

I've heard LOTS more kickass unreleased songs than the ones you list. There is some great stuff in the vault...grooves and grooves up on the shelf...albums and albums and albums worth...that Prince will probably never release

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Reply #35 posted 12/20/03 3:25am

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I think as long as he's still writing and recording new material, he doesn't really need "The Vault". He's probably concentrating his efforts on getting the new stuff out there. After all, if he went and released the whole bloody thing, how much would it cost? How many seperate CD's? How would you feel if he announced he was releasing 25 double CD albums in February?

I suspect he's being shrewd. The Vault will open when either:-

a) He shuffles off his funky little coil
b) He loses the desire/ability to keep writing

After all, it's nice to have a little nestegg for when you're older or a legacy to bequeath to your kin.

I hope I die before he does, because I don't think I could afford a vault opening!
"You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain"
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Reply #36 posted 12/20/03 3:35am

4nowneway

I read somewhere that he has recorded his version of Madonnas " Like a Prayer", I would love to hear that.
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Reply #37 posted 12/20/03 4:37am

justhemusic

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If Prince has any intentions on releasing stuff from the Vault, he should re-record those old tracks. Moonbeam Levels, Empty Room etc etc etc. I've had those tracks in demo and outtake form for years and years. To be offered a release of songs from the vault would be pointless to me. I almost never reach for those tunes anyways. He should re-record or at least remix those old tracks. Give us something fresh. I could care less about a polished mastered version of songs I have been listening to for 10+ years.


I couldn't disagree with you more. I think that is exactly what he SHOULDN'T do...he should NOT re-record those old Vault tunes AR ALL and mess them all up. Because you know thats what would happen...he'd mess them up, slick them up, 'clean' them up so to speak. Part of the excitement found in much of the good unreleased stuff is the rawness, the freeness, the loose carefree vibe...many of them feel so much more 'alive' honest and inspired than much of the officially released stuff. If he re-recorded these old tracks there is no question in my mind that he would suck the life right out of them. And whats this I hear that he may actually be erasing some of these old tunes based on his new beliefs as some have posted? I hope thats not true because regardless of where he is now, these tunes aren't supposed to represent where he is now...they represent where he was then...they are a document of where he was THEN...and, no matter what he wants to think, they are still a valid and essential part of why and how he got to where he is now...he should accept that and respect that for what is...it is, after all 'the truth' right?

just like the rest of us, we all live, we learn, we grow, we explore, we hopefully evolve...and it's ALL valid...its ALL essential...he may now think some of his 'old stuff' is somehow 'evil' or whatever, but i think otherwise...in fact i KNOW otherwise...that old stuff inspired many to think and do what they truly felt or believed, it inspired open-minded thinking at a time when much of our society was beoming more polorized, it was vulnerable, powerful, raw, unpredictable, creative and groundbreaking. It was really fun too. It was just some darn good music.

So..no if he's ever going to release it at all (which i doubt) he shouldn't 'mess' with it at all (other than make the audio as clear as possible)...he should leave it for what it is...a time capsule...a sign of his times if you will, a history of his evolution...

I'd LOVE clear versions of the unreleased stuff that i've got...but cmon...we all read D.M.S.R...we read the Kevin Smith story of how things are...if there is any truth to those (and i think there is) then we know that the vault is probably closed for a good long time...

but i agree with what another poster said...if he's sitting on some of this stuff with the hopes that one day he'll release it to a world of starving fans clamoring to get at it...well my guess is that each year his loyal fan base decreases a bit...each year more of the casual listeners forget about Prince...so the 'prime time' to release this stuff for 'maximum response' i think may have already passed...

old schoolers left like myself would still jump at it though...IF it was done RIGHT... don't mess with it, don't edit it, dont 'add' to it, and even if the sound quality can't be made 100% perfect, just release it...just release it...just the music...

yeah, heheh...like that'll happen...
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Reply #38 posted 12/20/03 6:15am

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TonyC said:

I've heard LOTS more kickass unreleased songs than the ones you list. There is some great stuff in the vault...grooves and grooves up on the shelf...albums and albums and albums worth...that Prince will probably never release



Do you have these songs? If not, where did you hear these songs and what are the names of the songs you heard?omg
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Reply #39 posted 12/20/03 1:28pm

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Like there is no spoon, there is no vault...

... or WAS IT ?
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Reply #40 posted 12/20/03 2:24pm

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Vault Shmault. He's already pissing on songs that have been released so God help the ones that haven't. If he were wise he'd hire someone at Paisley to collect as many bootlegs as possible. Then get an engineer in there to mix & master these boots for commercial release on NPG. Why let the bootleggers collect? The songs are already recorded so it's not like he's going to be pulled out of the everlasting now. Just master them and release them.
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Reply #41 posted 12/20/03 5:07pm

ThreadBare

The time to have done it RIGHT would've been the Crystal Ball release. By now, the market has changed so tremendously, Prince has sunk to cult-artist status. I don't have much unreleased work of his and, given the prices for it on eBay and the scarcity of his good stuff in music stores I frequent, an official release is the only way i'd get it.

But, like I said, the time's past. Even if Prince showed signs of doing it sometime soon (to coincide with the PR anniversary or his induction into the hall of fame), I fear, his whimsy would sabotage the project before a viable "rarities" package could hit store shelves.
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Reply #42 posted 12/20/03 5:14pm

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m3taverse said:

"Once, as he says, "the record industry is put to death," he'll probably release more exploratory material that hasn't seen the "legal" light of day, including, hopefully, sessions with the late Miles Davis."

http://starbulletin.com/2...tory2.html

ha!
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Reply #43 posted 12/20/03 5:40pm

TonyC

seanski said:[quote]

TonyC said:

I've heard LOTS more kickass unreleased songs than the ones you list. There is some great stuff in the vault...grooves and grooves up on the shelf...albums and albums and albums worth...that Prince will probably never release[/img]

Do you have these songs? If not, where did you hear these songs and what are the names of the songs you heard?omg


There are a bunch like: Lisa, Databank, Girl of My Dreams, Feel Good, I Am The DJ, Player, Purple Music, Journey 2 the Center of U're Heart, Cross The Line, A Good Man, Your Love Is So Hard, Heaven, Schoolyard, etc, etc.. And I assume we've only heard a small fraction of what he recorded.

I'm not saying all those songs are masterpieces, but all are GOOD or GREAT songs and worthy of release...definitely better than what he's been releasing the past couple of years. Of course, some of them sound dated now, and he wouldn't put them on a new album, but they would be great on Crystall Ball 2.

Plus, I'm assuming that we've only heard a small fraction of what he recorded...I doubt he let 90% of what he recorded leak out to bootleggers. He'll probably let us hear much of his great unreleased material, but he could, because the grooves are there...upon the shelf!



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[This message was edited Sat Dec 20 17:44:05 PST 2003 by TonyC]
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