I just heard Santana's new song on the radio for the hundredth time - every time I hear it, I think it's such a shame he's doing such unoriginal songs with the young, fresh, 'talent' of today. I wondered if this is more his doing or Clive Davis'.

Then I realized that if Rave had been the commercial success that Prince and Clive had said it would be, Prince might well be in the same boat as Santana right now, and we never would have heard TRC, and we never would have had the ONA tour.

All in all, I'm glad Rave was such a big failure.

I see what you mean, I think 'Rave' possibly could've been a decent commercial hit, but maybe Prince went the wrong way about it...

I mean to begin with, the video for 'The Greatest Romance...' wasn't shown until weeks after the single's release...doesn't exactly kick-start the album's sales does it?

But i'd have to agree that if 'Rave' would have been a commerical success we may not have had 'TRC', so i'm also kinda glad it turned out how it did.

All's I know is, Thank God for Rave In2.

Rave is one of his most underrated albums and the best one since Gold Experience. It's better than The Rainbow Children and could have had some success had they used "So Far, So Pleased" as the first single.

MrWhatever said:

I have to master the art of talking out my ass, any tips?

Rave, this album was a solid one. Have you ever heard him so accessible in song as on some of these tracks. so vulnerable and human? I love you but don't trust you anymore? And several others that had sweet sentiments that seemed to be what is hidden underneath all his egotistical misunderstood ways. Prince doesn't put out 'bad' albums at all. Just some that are better than others.

booyah said:

Prince has ALWAYS been far too original and rebellious to fall into that commercial trap that Santana did. Besides, Prince wouldnt lean so heavily on all the guest artists.

undulatingacrobat said:

I agree with you comepletely. If RAVE had been a huge success and Clive Davis tried to pull a 'Santana' on Prince...I think P would've told him exactly where to go. He would've dont a completely different, fiercly independant record instead.

Though I dont think RAVE was a masterpiece...it certainly did have it's great moments (title track, Eye Love You But..., Baby Knows, Tangerine) and I admit is was pretty cool seeing Prince hit the charts and back in the 'game' so to speak. Had there not been so many fuckups along the way...RAVE would've easily hit Platinum.

MrWhatever said:

Co-sign! I think the album might have gotten a better reception had he released better a better single from it. "Greatest Romance" is kind of a bland R&B tune and he definnitely could have made more of an impact with it had he released "So Far..." or maybe even "Hot Wit U." There was so much great promotion going on with the album coming out and the Pay Per View Rave party...

guitarslinger44 said:

Agreed.From a commercial standpoint,"So Far,So Pleased" was the obvious choice for the first single.With a great video,it would have been a Top 10 smash with no problem.I don't know if it was Clive or Prince who picked "TGRES",but that was a bad move.

You can Thank Prince for it being a commercial failure.

Marrk said:

I didn't realize that was your mouth...

booyah said:

So! no big loss.

Wish these people into the cornfield...