Think about it-we complain/argue about the quality his post 1988 work all of the time (emancipation, etc.) However, if any other artist had released "Emancipation" the critics, and fans, would have gushed over this "new sensation." But, if Prince would have released D'Angelo's last album people (especially around here) would have crapped all over it and said it wasn't "Sign O the Times" and such.

These have been said before but they often ring true-

Prince's crappy output is better than most everyone else's good stuff.

Prince's only competion is "well, (Prince) in the past..."

it fades.. trust me..

I used to get upset over his actions, or distraught...

now i could give a rats ass.. If he dont wanna "share" or sell music, thats music, fine..cause There are plenty of better artist that will.. seems more and more by the each release that I already have the best of Prince..
[This message was edited Mon Dec 15 17:21:35 PST 2003 by Sdldawn]

Hey, he set the bar!

Romance1600 said:

Hear, Hear

skywalker said:

No it's not. Not even close.

I understand the sentiment you're trying to convey. It's a valid point, but you don't have to tear down other artists output to validate Prince's. Prince's bad shit is bad. Stuff like 'Jughead', 'Daddy Pop', 'Right The Wrong', 'Shoo-Bed-Ooh', etc... it's horrible. And nowhere near being better than most other artists good stuff.

...i kinda like 'Right the Wrong'...

violator said:

Whats wrong with Jughead "dont worry if your looking silly, look over here at me working for Willy" Thats genius that is..

Violator-

So "Daddy Pop" and "Right the Wrong" are worse than Britney's "I'm a Slave 4 U"? Like I said I'll take Prince's "shite" over other's "good stuff".

Anxiety said:

me too, i never understood why everyone always bums it. I dont like "i rock therefore or i am" and "dig u better dead" is shit.

Anxiety said:

Well then an apology is in full order.

Romance1600 said:

sho' did.

skywalker said:

That's not what you said. And maybe you overstated, but your words were that "Prince's crappy output is better than most everyone else's good stuff.

Britney Spears hardly qualifies as most everyone.

skywalker said:

okayyy

"i ain't askin' for much! do i ask for much?...you do!"

--houston '82, durin "hcudcma?"

Thats a understatment with some people here...lol

I understand. But Prince's worst output is not better than "most everyone else's good stuff". That's really too much praise for Shoobeedoo.

violator said:

you'd better leave Right the Wrong alone if you know what's good for you.









by the way, your avatar rocks.

Seein' y'all defend Right The Wrong is bringing tears to my eyes. "Can you hear me, baby? I'M SIX FEET IN THE GRAVE!!!" Anx, we gots to play that sometime when we're hanging out..I'll show you what a REAL dork looks like.

But yeah...that truly is a ridiculous statement to make. I've noticed that many times Prince fans have some of the most narrowly restricted taste in music around...because they just assume that nobody else makes incredible music. Take a look outside Paisley, people...it's alive, and it's joyful.

"Right The Wrong" is crap.But I like "Shoo Bee Doo"

To get back to the point - P fans DO have unreasonably high expectations. Possibly, we fans may feel a need to defend what P does to the "outside world", and if it gets a little hard to do so, we feel that he sould be making our task easier.

We can whine about this song or that one, or even about this album or that one, but when he's truly inspired, well, he truly comes through. Just look at the way his output was going the last few years, first NPS, then Rave..., to be followed by TRC! And this accompanied by his enthusiastic performances (and his musically interesting, if not commercial, releases) since spring 2002.

Just sit back, consider the entire body of work, listen to what you like, and skip the rest; most likely, someone else will enjoy the things you don't.

Well the quality of excitement, fun and musical surprises was "mountain-high" three to five years ago.. plus all prince music fans were spoon fed tons of BS about how the musical master was going to churn out the mind blowing compositions he had in the vault once he was (chuckle) "emancipated" .. plus we all know what he's capable of in the studio.

Many I talk to about "expectations" agree that we sincerely thought he was on his way with Year one of NPGMC and the Rainbow Children.. but now he's fallen flat on his face creatively. Bluff called, face down the shit he's tossed out the past two years just shows he's had his wounded heart stuffed in the bible too long to know what he's doing ain't even close to cutting edge.

btw Right the Wrong is dope at full volume!

skywalker said:

co sign. finally someone sees the light.

DavidEye said:

That's just wrong davideye! better right it right now!
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skywalker said:

Bullshit. If any other artist had released Emancipation, it would have received far less success and critical acclaim that it did. The only thing it had going for it was being Prince's first non-WB mainstream album release and "the album he was born to make." Heh.

Parts of this thread sort of prove the point that Prince's worst stuff is actually pretty good,purely because so far no-one has actually mentioned any songs that people ALL agree on are bad ,as we have people stating a liking for etc Right The Wrong and Shoo-bee-doh.

skywalker said:

If D'Angelo's last album was Voodoo , it deserved to be crapped over, god was that awful .I'll take any of Prince's bad output over that whiny piece of shit CD any day of the week.Does the general public remember anything about that album apart from D'Angelo had to get his kit of to sell it via the video I wonder.

skywalker said:

My expectations are now much lower than they used to be. If he puts out anything decent now it's a plus. But this man's "decent" is another man's "genius."

moonshine said:

No it doesn't.

It certainly depends on the individual. But you think of all of the wonderful artists in the world. And you think of the Prince songs you dislike the most. Not anybody else. You. And then you compare that with the best of most everyone else out there and tell me you still believe that to be true.
[This message was edited Tue Dec 16 11:55:30 PST 2003 by violator]

moonshine said:

'Devils Pie' was pretty fuckin good.

let's discuss the phrase "most every one else." It is not really an exact amount but I see most everyone else equaling roughly 75% of other acts out there today. This means, to me, everyone in the world who are professional performers, musicians,song writers, etc. Not the well known ones-everyone. Is Prince's worst better the best offered by U2, Outkast, The Beatles, Lenny Kravitz, Madonna, Johnny Cash, James Brown? No. Is his worst better than N' Sync, Kenny G., Britney, John Tesh, and every band playing in a bar? Yes. That is all I am saying.