His whole steelo on Lub Be-Low is just what Prince would do as semi throwaways and bsides...that's all that is..Prince did-does that shit in his sleep--that Prototype geetar etc..the She Lib In My Lap etc..pfft..please

Prince could shit those songs out his ass

true...i honestly don't see why folks are ravin about him so much here. he's cool, sure, but damn...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I think it's the charisma. Sure, there are plenty more-talented folks, but can you help lubbing him? Well, I guess RD can. I can't.

I agree with you on this rd. I think people just get a little overzealous and excited to hear a style played again that Prince has been very notable for in the past. Therefore, they say that it's something he should be playing, which is total bs. He has and can easily do it again and again, just chooses not to.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Dont get me wrong--I be libbin me some andree but I only said this statement earlier because when his shit came out erryohe was sayin..."Prince neds to do this ..he out Princeing Prince.." etc..listening to it makes me see how some of this shit is ideas prince shoved into ONE song at times etc..and how some of these jams are princes bsides and one off throwaways but erryone hailin Dre...but it is refreshing hearing anothers take on P music influence etc but I just want folks to remmeber--Princ ebeen did this shit--has recently done it with club releases in 200-2003..and could do it so EASILY if he wanted and they wold just be bsides, not his major release

FunkMistress said:

Hey! I lub Andre!

Im jus sayin Prince could do what he does in easy steps--in a week prolly lol

rdhull said:

I hear you. But hey, we take what we can get in this parched, desperate desert that is popular music. In that context, Outkast is one hell of a welcome oasis.

I love what Andre is doing The Love Below is real nice but I don't go as far as to say "Prince should've made this album"like some people are saying and he's not doing Prince better than Prince because can't nobody do Prince better than Prince.Andre just started singing and playing instruments back off the Stankonia album.It's silly for anyone to say he's doing Prince better than Prince when Prince was out there killing it when Andre was in kindergarten.
[This message was edited Fri Dec 12 10:34:54 PST 2003 by SexxyCool]

SexxyCool said:

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We're starving for a Prince 1985 - 1988 era album...so every new guy to come along with a promising start is labeled the new Prince. This has been happening since Romeo Blue was on the verge of releasing his first album back in 1989, as Lenny Kravitz of course. Someone has got to fill the Prince void... but no one is deep enough! We love him so much because he is a true one of a kind.

rdhull said:

Prince did it, and did it better, but I dunno if he can still do it.

The doing Prince better than Prince phrase has come up a whole lot for almost a decade now about anybody who shows the slightest Prince influence. Especially when some people talk about D'Angelo. People want Prince to go back to what he used to do in POP MUSIC because of the nostalgia aspect - it takes them back to where they were as teens and young adults. It's like they want Prince to be stuck at the 25-30 age range forever. Prince has covered that ground already. If he would constantly repeat himself the same people would be complaining about THAT, so they'll be disgruntled regardless. And with some of those lyrics that Andre writes/sings I sure as hell hope Prince wouldn't regress (see the completely obnoxious "Roses" from TLB). Prince has had his own problems with "Jughead" nonsense.

Having said all that; I still like TLB, but the b-sides analogy is a good one for many of the songs on it.

rdhull said:

RD! The operative word is would... Its what Prince would have done - not what Prince is doing...

Does everybody remember the New Coke / Classic Coke fiasco in the mid-80s? People got so pissed off with New Coke that they turned to Pepsi instead!

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i think maybe because andre is what prince was in his zenith. its like a nostalgia thang. prince got all watered down and kinda left some of us missing that edge. also, for newbie fans, andre's shit is the first time they are experiencing that style in their life. ain't nobody else doin' it, ya know? i love the love below cd. its fun and raunchy and raw...nothing so polished about it at all. just like p's earlier days.

BinaryJustin said:

actually the key word is or should have been did ..because Prince DID all that Andre like stuff fo years..but he went on to different things..been there done that etc

rdhull said:

dead on

andre 3000 is cool

but prince is light years

ahead of him

also, dre 3000 clowns

alot more than prince

yea, prince has a sense of humor,

but dre takes it 2 a goofy, funky

kind of level

i dig both them brothers

but prince is the king

Supernova said:

Can't speak for "people" but for me, that is wrong, wrong, thrice wrong.

I would prefer to see Prince make great music again, not meaning that I would like it if he 'sounded' like he did then, just have fire in his belly - TRC had that, great stuff.

Emancipation - Rave/High - Dire bollocks.

Romance1600 said:

When I say people I'm speaking for a ton of people not only here, but elsewhere who have specifically said as much.

I like Andre 3000. the Lovebelow is an excellent cd. Charisma is important in the business and Andre has it! Prince is a recluse, no one wants to pay $15 for a cd and never get to see the performer (unless they are dead). The other key point is Princes' music isn't fun anymore. Yes, he is apporoaching middle age, but that doesn't mean the music can't be fun. Shit, I want to "Play in the Sunshine" again!

brooklyn said:

No offense but all of that doesnt add up to a hill of beans in what I said..I never said "Prince is doing this kind of music now and better than ANDRE "..I SAID what Andre is doing what Prince HAS DONE ..HE DID IT BETTER..DID IT EFFORTLESSLY and that what

rdhull said:

i lub him 2

no 1 i know even heard of prince,but they've all heard of andre





omfg the unjustice

Actually the b-sides weren't throwaways, believe it or not they meant more to him, that's why they were "singled" out.

As far as the Dre' 3000 is the new Prince, Well yeah.
He's just has that experimental/dark/sexual funk vibe going on, something which Prince "Was" a master at. More power to Prince for not pigeonholing his style into that format, but for those who love his old vibe 'Dre has resurrected it. Andre openly admits being a fan of his and a fan of many of P's idols. Even though it may not be intentional that sometimes one of dre's tracks may reak of purple funk but the paralells can't be denied.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Yeah, I know/agree..I said or at least meant b-sides AND throwaways

I agree.
Andre is cool, and a breath of fresh air for today's popular music, but he isn't as great as he is made out to be.

I STILL don't think he coppies(or at least sets out to coppy) Prince, but Prince could easily do what he does in his sleep.

I like Andre 'Dre' Benjamin 3000. Great songs... Cool clothes...

rdhull said:

Who are we talking about here?

i wonder what Prince makes of Andre.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Exactly. There's one point people seem to forget too. Andre brings the hip-hop flavor Prince tried (unsuccessfully) to incorporate into the mix. In that, Andre is a unique artist and is the prototype for the next best thing (pun intended).

sinisterpentatonic said:

Riiight. Dre's got as much musical "dark"ness as Flavor Flav. Come on, the guy's goofy, nothing dark going on there.

Supernova said:

Well I guess that's subjective. Lyrically, yeah you're probably right. Musically on the other hand, songs like "Vibrate" "Pink N' Blue" "Prototype" "She lives in my lap" sets a mood that's not to far fetched to call "dark".
[This message was edited Sat Dec 13 23:11:28 PST 2003 by sinisterpentatonic]

rdhull said:

you give the prince of today too much credit if you ask me. prince was the man in the 80's; that's when he had his peak. he can still make good music, but nothing like in the old days. 'the rainbow children' is a hot album, but it's one of the few, perhaps the only album of the last 5 to 10 years that i really dug all the way through. why do you think people keep saying "this is the album prince should have made" in reviews of albums by people like d'angelo, meshell and now dre? although i think it's a bullshit line, i do think it's a sign of the times. 80's prince is dead. and the prince of today can not recapture the genius of 80's prince, even if he wanted to. but that's just an opinion..

i think 'the love below' is a good album. it has its flaws here and there, but overall it's good. you definitely here prince's influence, but it's not as primary as you people make it out to be.