he'd still be making good music


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yay or nay?

if you look at his most recent albums:
Constipation
Puke Un2 The Loo Fantastic
The Rainbow Fiasco
C.R.A.P.
Not Enough Nights Alone

I think you'll see a definite decline in the quality of his music.
I've always said it was his hand that signed the WB contracts...he has no one else to blame but himeself (oh...and Mayte) for his current inability to produce good music.
'Nuff said...

TheMadMonkey said:

ps...love those album titles

Fuhrer said:

What was the last WB recording that you enjoyed?

marcdeondotcom said:

if your talking about the last WB recording by Prince, then it's Gold Experience

Well for one thing, he would b up for more Grammies!!

Fuhrer said:

Funny names I enjoy them, but to be frank, I must say Prince has published very good albums the last years.
I'm sorry if you cannot apreciate good and innovative music, but for e.g. Xpectation is a marvellous album. News is hard to listen to, but it's very powerful and I love musicians to take risks.
Please, you only need ears.

He'd be singing with Britney Spears :Sad2:

He will very unhappy!

TheMadMonkey said:

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Prince would have been dropped by WB he had stayed. When is the last time WB had a lot of CD's in the top ten. The only artist on that label selling records within the last five years has been Madonna. Now WB has sold the music portion of their business. You do not sell a division if it is making money. WB fell off a long time ago and Prince made the right decision to leave. The current music he is putting out my not be to your taste but don't forget Prince's throw away's are better than most of the crap out right now.

All of WB's pull did not get Prince a grammy nomination for the Gold Experience but he got one as an independent artist.

Prince had unrealistic expectations when he was at Warners. He didn't think like an artist who was signed to a major. Now that he's on his own, he doesn't have the luxury of spitting out a seven-CD box set on a whim. He can't afford it. He's forced to look at his recording career more realistically. I'm glad he's doing his own thing right now. I hope it's grounded his crazy ass a little bit. He wanted to be free so he could release more music? He's releasing LESS music now than he did w/ WB! Silly goose.

Anxiety said:

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Because he can't afford to release more!!! I don't think he has put out any less. He has put out a project a year since he left WB. I think he did not think about the cost involved with being an independent artist. He might have had unrealistic expectations after the success of "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" I don't that makes him silly he just does not do a good job of thinking ahead. What he has tried to do is ambitous and brave. I think he should get some credit for trying.

Yeah, he should get credit for trying, and he was off to a good start w/ Crystal Ball and Emancipation, as flawed as those projects might have turned out to be. But I'm talking about someone who expected WB to digest the whole Dream Factory/(original) Crystal Ball/Camille Album/SOTT/Black Album/No Black Album/Lovesexy saga, then finnagle them into letting him do the Graffiti Bridge project, THEN, after all of that craziness and a huge contract, unleashing all the insanity that he did during the symbol album project. God bless him for never giving us a dull moment during the WB years, but I have a feeling that now he can't afford to be such a nut just because some big huge scary label like WB will pay for it, so he's in a position where he's FORCED to refine what it is he does...and when he tries to let out all the stops anymore, like he tried to do with Chocolate Invasion this year, the resources just plain ain't there for him anymore. Yeah, I'm glad he did what he did, and I'm glad the experience has chilled his behind out a bit, but I hope he can find a way to distribute his archival projects one day, with a minimum of grief.

Fuhrer said:

Hell would have freezed over...

Hey, wasn't it the Warners that were trying to pimp him in the first place? Major labels are usually masters of that thing. So, being that this is Prince we are talking about, his bow out from the WB would be inevitable. If not in 1996, then maybe in 2005. Who knows?

umm...if by "good" you mean the opposite of what he's made & released since '96, no.
I believe he would've made "The Rainbow Children", "Rave", and "N.E.W.S." or atleast albums like that irregaurdless of whereever he was signed.
[This message was edited Sat Dec 6 22:02:51 PST 2003 by lovebizzare]

Fuhrer said:

Nay, I think he would have basically released the same stuff. I don't think him leaving WB impacted his musical style much. He got older and his genius cooled off a bit...end of story.

TheMadMonkey said:

Life on the org must be very frustrating for you.

TheMadMonkey said:

Those album titles aren't any good without fake track listings. How 'bout it?

Tareau: nope...just my opinion...

LittlePill: I honestly couldn't be bothered to look up the track titles...please feel free to make up your own though...LOL

...and as far as WB goes...
they were just conducting business as usual...P has always been one of their top artists...fucksakes, they built the Park for him (which they've never done for anyone else)...he could've easily renegotiated his contract with them...
...also...if companies don't sell divisions that make them money, then how can it be explained that the Canadian gov't wants to sell off it's control of the Liquor Board (which makes them millions every year) and has privatized hydro (electricity...which also made them tons of cash)...

...as far as P & the C.R.A.P. he's trying to pass off as music these days...
I've always maintained that I still respect him for trying new things...that's part of what makes P who he is...it just saddens me that he's not doing anything (in recent years) that's worth me listening to...s'all I'm sayin'...LOL

laurarichardson said:

I agree, I don't think he puts out any less music than he did with WB. Whether or not people like it is a matter of tastes, but song for song we still get a ton of music every year.

As far as if he was still with WB (if they still had a label), Realistically, he'd probably be pissed as f*ck with EVALS written on his face and the label wouldn't be all that supportive of him. Remember the mid-90's? Think more of that.


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Fuhrer said:

i like what P has put out i'm just a greedy ass mutha & i want more Music. 1 album a year is what happened when P was with Waner Brothers & u all NEED 2 keep in mind that P doesn't make his music 4 us. he makes it 4 himself & it's a Blessing that he allows us 2 buy it which is a Contradiction in itself. that we have 2 buy some1's gift.

but the point is that if P would b making Good Music or not? i say it's all Good Music. it's all part of the Journey & we need 2 appreciate the fact that we can HEAR & enjoy whateva P sells us...


i don't like the idea of him selling us his Music but he has 2 make $$$ somehow...

You know, Simply Red were dropped by Warner Music...

Mick Hucknall set up his own record label and online music store - http://www.simplyred.com and you know what? Its been very successful. There's a Simply Red single in the UK top ten chart this week.

Prince's problem isn't not being signed to a major label - its the fact that his musical tastes changed.

Elevator muzak is never going to excite anybody.

George Michael is releasing his next album through Sony, which is a bit of a turnaround.

Nay. he released some shitty music via warner as well. But... he maybe would have tried harder if he was still with warner.

PurpleLove7 said:

If he would have stayed with WB we would see him in a lot of TV shows. Hell they would even be a Prince weekend on MTV. Maybe they'll use their machinery to push him to the top, if he would deliver music for the masses. But the question is: Is he willing to sacrifice himself to have a commercial success, which in my opinion is not a core issue, when he can make a good living with the current settings? I guess not. To be honest I wouldn't do either if I were him. If you look at the music industry you see that almost all commercial hits are made to suite the target audience. I think that this audience will most probably not understand his music, because their taste is different -> it has been uniformed by the industry. You could say that Prince music nowadays is more for the "grown-ups" and people who can judge music by its quality and not by the numbers sold. That's why good albums do not always make it to the top ten. I, personally, prefer to get a good album and surprise my friends with the great music that is on it, rather than being one of those sheeps going to a record store and pick up something from the top ten shelf. Somehow most of us changed and matured over the years and so did Prince. His current style of music, may not appeal to all of us and not to the large audience as well. But he is happy with his output and that's the most important thing for an artist. There are only two ways: Be succesful and do what the record company tells you to do or make your own thing taking the risk of not having any chart impact. I think Prince has seen it all in his life, he doesn't neet to get chart impact to make a living.

BinaryJustin said:

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Do you mean that awful Simply Red rip-off of the Hall and Oats song I Can't Go for That. I find it very disappointing that Simply Red went to sampling without being pushed by a major label. What a shame. I don't want to see Prince do that.

TheMadMonkey said:

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I am not talking about the Canadian govt. I am talking about Time/Warner which is billions of dollars in debt. They sold their music division because they need the money and records are not selling they way they use to. In fact record sells are down by 20% over the last five years.
Add decling record sales to a company that has not sold a signicant amount of records within the last five years and you have a division that is going to be sold. Stop crying about the good old days at WB they are over.

Nay.