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Thread started 12/06/03 3:33am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

prince did carmen wrong

if 'carmen electra: driven' is accurate.

now wait. before you jump down my throat about how she would be nobody if it wasn't for prince and how she should be thankful for the experience, yada yada yada, let me say that none of the show came from her mouth. it was from this close friend and that great pal and etc. but what i heard (and kind of believe) was really sad.

now, they said carmen had to be in full make up and hair all the time just in case prince were to stop by. she would sleep in her clothes and pumps so she would be ready at all times. after her record flopped and she moved to l.a., where prince had her followed by his people. he eventually became interested in mayte and apparantly, the way he used to treat carmen was now the way he was treating mayte. supposedly he told her she was out and that was that.

strangely, prince gave her a 2nd break and hooked her up with a gig at l.a.'s glamslam. the rest is history. i know this is all old news but hearing these people talk about the antics of our little guy was kind of disheartening. i don't know if its true or not but, judging from some of prince's past actions, it certainly is not too far fetched!
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Reply #1 posted 12/06/03 3:54am

rdhull

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whats wrong with making your partner staay in full make-up? confuse
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #2 posted 12/06/03 3:56am

lovebizzare

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Though I wouldn't be surprised if most of the things said about him were true, one must never believe what is said about Carmen and Prince...because it changes every other week.
~KiKi
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Reply #3 posted 12/06/03 3:57am

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It's what happens to spineless adults.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #4 posted 12/06/03 4:12am

Handclapsfinga
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Supernova said:

It's what happens to spineless adults.

yyyup. if all that chit really happened, there wasn't a damned thing to stop carmen from usin her own two feet to work her way to the damned door and from usin her vocal cords, tongue, lingual/language skills to tell prince, "sayonara and fuck off, son!"

nod
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Reply #5 posted 12/06/03 4:18am

Supernova

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Supernova said:

It's what happens to spineless adults.

yyyup. if all that chit really happened, there wasn't a damned thing to stop carmen from usin her own two feet to work her way to the damned door and from usin her vocal cords, tongue, lingual/language skills to tell prince, "sayonara and fuck off, son!"

nod

thumbs up!
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #6 posted 12/06/03 4:21am

rdhull

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Supernova said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Supernova said:

It's what happens to spineless adults.

yyyup. if all that chit really happened, there wasn't a damned thing to stop carmen from usin her own two feet to work her way to the damned door and from usin her vocal cords, tongue, lingual/language skills to tell prince, "sayonara and fuck off, son!"

nod

thumbs up!

I agree too nod

these are gorwn adults who supposedly had ot be put through so much harhsness..any gROwn adult wouldnt do those things if thjey were true--and if they did then thats on THEM
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #7 posted 12/06/03 4:30am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

y'all are missing my point (and, walk away is just what she did, by the way). my point is that if its true, prince is (or at least was) a cold ass man. thats all. i don't know that i believe it all actually went down that way but, let's face it, nothing is past the dimunitive funkster. lol.
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Reply #8 posted 12/06/03 4:34am

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The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #9 posted 12/06/03 4:38am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.
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Reply #10 posted 12/06/03 4:40am

rdhull

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

youve been a real azz lately...go to amp if u want t o start some biased bullshit
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #11 posted 12/06/03 4:42am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

uh oh, i spoke against p...lol

i guess that's what i get for actually coming into the prince forum.
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Reply #12 posted 12/06/03 4:42am

Supernova

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

An ignorant leap of "logic" you've reduced your interpretation to.

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

Perhaps adults should take responsibility for their own actions, or idiotic non-actions, whatever they may be. Prince is not God - she's the fool who decided to stay with him if he treated her that way.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #13 posted 12/06/03 4:44am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

Supernova said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

An ignorant leap of "logic" you've reduced your interpretation to.

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

Perhaps adults should take responsibility for their own actions, or idiotic non-actions, whatever they may be. Prince is not God - she's the fool who decided to stay with him if he treated her that way.

she didn;t stay with him...jeez, how many times do i have to say it. we know how it turned out. she left his little ass.
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Reply #14 posted 12/06/03 4:45am

Supernova

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

An ignorant leap of "logic" you've reduced your interpretation to.

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

Perhaps adults should take responsibility for their own actions, or idiotic non-actions, whatever they may be. Prince is not God - she's the fool who decided to stay with him if he treated her that way.

she didn;t stay with him...jeez, how many times do i have to say it. we know how it turned out. she left his little ass.

She stayed long enough for it to go on IF it happened - spineless, no matter how you see it.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #15 posted 12/06/03 4:45am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

Supernova said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

An ignorant leap of "logic" you've reduced your interpretation to.

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

Perhaps adults should take responsibility for their own actions, or idiotic non-actions, whatever they may be. Prince is not God - she's the fool who decided to stay with him if he treated her that way.

she didn;t stay with him...jeez, how many times do i have to say it. we know how it turned out. she left his little ass.

She stayed long enough for it to go on IF it happened - spineless, no matter how you see it.

ok.
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Reply #16 posted 12/06/03 4:46am

Handclapsfinga
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

uh oh, i spoke against p...lol

i guess that's what i get for actually coming into the prince forum.

not really. folks speak against prince here daily, ain't nothin new about what you're sayin. not a word.
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Reply #17 posted 12/06/03 4:47am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

uh oh, i spoke against p...lol

i guess that's what i get for actually coming into the prince forum.

not really. folks speak against prince here daily, ain't nothin new about what you're sayin. not a word.

i think i forgot where i was for a second lol. i forgot all about the peeps that are never happy with him.
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Reply #18 posted 12/06/03 4:50am

lovebizzare

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

rolleyes well fine. let look at it from your angle: Prince is a horrible man and it's none of Carmen's fault. Happy now?

If any of this went down it's both parties' fault.
Prince for being a control freak and Carmen for putting up with it.
Putting up with that to simply stay in a buisness that "kicks your ass" is NOT good excuse. From what you're saying she let him treat her horribly so she could be a star, yeah,that just completely disagrees with what Dansa, Supernova, and Rd said.

BTW:why are we even talking about this? As I've said before the story chnages every other week and we've never heard anything directly from her, doesn't that sound a little suspicious to anyone? Maybe it's the truth exagerated, i.e. maybe he wanted(not made, how could anyone make a grown-ass person do something? confuse) her wear full make up while in his presence and not while she was sleeping. Shows like these take truth and exagerate the hell out of it.
And he couldn't have been that bad to her...considering she's hosting the family jamm, which he's very likely to show up for...
~KiKi
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Reply #19 posted 12/06/03 4:55am

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lovebizzare said:

If any of this went down it's both parties' fault.

Precisely. I'd never deny that.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #20 posted 12/06/03 5:20am

enjoyniki

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

y'all are missing my point (and, walk away is just what she did, by the way). my point is that if its true, prince is (or at least was) a cold ass man. thats all. i don't know that i believe it all actually went down that way but, let's face it, nothing is past the dimunitive funkster. lol.


Unfortunately there are alot of men that kick women to the curb for pne reason or another... Prince is no exception for just being a MAN.
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Reply #21 posted 12/06/03 5:37am

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Prince did his fans wrong too.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #22 posted 12/06/03 6:06am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

lovebizzare said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Supernova said:

The point isn't missed.

MY point is that if it went down exactly as they say then she is indeed SPINELESS, and as an adult could have bolted the minute she developed some intestinal fortitude.

riiight, cause prince is never at fault. rolleyes

perhaps she was trying to break into a business that kicks your ass. and perhaps, if it is true, she actually was a little naive and thought he might just care about her. oh no, its still all her fault (if its true). silly me.

rolleyes well fine. let look at it from your angle: Prince is a horrible man and it's none of Carmen's fault. Happy now?

If any of this went down it's both parties' fault.
Prince for being a control freak and Carmen for putting up with it.
Putting up with that to simply stay in a buisness that "kicks your ass" is NOT good excuse. From what you're saying she let him treat her horribly so she could be a star, yeah,that just completely disagrees with what Dansa, Supernova, and Rd said.

BTW:why are we even talking about this? As I've said before the story chnages every other week and we've never heard anything directly from her, doesn't that sound a little suspicious to anyone? Maybe it's the truth exagerated, i.e. maybe he wanted(not made, how could anyone make a grown-ass person do something? confuse) her wear full make up while in his presence and not while she was sleeping. Shows like these take truth and exagerate the hell out of it.
And he couldn't have been that bad to her...considering she's hosting the family jamm, which he's very likely to show up for...

this is why i said IF IT IS TRUE and thats why i pointed out that CARMEN NEVER SAID any of it. i specifically said if any of this were true i would be feel bad for carmen. i said judging from prince's previous actions it could be true, i never said it WAS true. jeez.

good grief. i'm sorry i tried to talk about anything. rolleyes(imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty walks back to music:non-prince forum)
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Reply #23 posted 12/06/03 7:25am

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Prince was fine with her!

He hooked her up.. gave her a name.. produced ,paid & recorded a album for her...also a video.. gave her a job at his club.. & on the E! True Story they said he made the call to Playboy for her too..

she paid him back in the way he wanted.. she knew the deal!

* I do think this was the most "prince" Prince ever was.. wink For him NOT to want to be seen with her.. while he banged Mayte.. must have really played with her mind.

I bet every guy before & after Prince.. has kissed her azz..

Prince do your thing.. whateva u feel.. these broads know the deal going in.

Tera can't say she had NO clue who Prince was & what he was all about in 1991??? lol

Women knew by 1981.
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Reply #24 posted 12/06/03 12:58pm

sumtymes

carmen experienced prince

in his pop daddy days

player prince has changed

it's time carmen turned

over a new leaf as well

and retire her sex kitten image
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Reply #25 posted 12/06/03 1:49pm

Number23

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Supernova said:

It's what happens to spineless adults.

yyyup. if all that chit really happened, there wasn't a damned thing to stop carmen from usin her own two feet to work her way to the damned door and from usin her vocal cords, tongue, lingual/language skills to tell prince, "sayonara and fuck off, son!"

nod


True, but she doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Reply #26 posted 12/06/03 6:51pm

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Here is what I heard from watching the Carmen Electra Story on the Entertainment Network last week:
First of all, her name was Tara (something). Prince actually gave her the name Carment Electra, Carmen being his favorite Broadway show and Electra from another Broadway show he likes. Prince saw her dance (on video or something) and called her at home the following week asking if she'd dance for him, said he would help her out in order for her to get a big break. She went to Minneapolis and moved into her own appartment near Paisley Park. Prince would take care of all the financial issues, rent, clothes, food, etc... He told her that she had talent and much potential as a dancer, but that her voice wasn't strong enough to make it as a singer. As we all know, they ended up sleeping togerther. She confided in personal friends that she would sleep in her makeup, just as Prince would at that time and both wore the same makeup (Mac C5 ??). Prince would also ask her to always be in full makeup whenever she would go out, he said it was better for her career. She felt a bad because Prince wanted to keep their relationship secret and wasn't making public apprearances with her by his side. He claimed that it too was better for her career and that he thought she should wait until later. She said that Prince would go into the recording studio chamber and lock himself up for 2 - 3 days without coming out and without eating; she said he expected the same discipline out of her. Basically, she was stressed, overworked and felt a bit like a prisoner. When she saw him eyeing Mayte, she decided to call it quits when it came to romance. He was apparently upset and stopped supporting her financially. She moved out, away into her own place and had a very hard time. She called him back later when she was broke and desparate and as she said, Prince isn't the kind of guy to turn his back when someone needs help. They had remained friends and Prince helped her out once again. From that, she did make it on her own, got a boob job, etc... Prince did have a part of her fame and success. When her close friend asked "what is it like to sleep with Prince?", Carmen just rubbed her palm against her two fingers and made a yawning gesture with no further comment...
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Reply #27 posted 12/06/03 6:53pm

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imnotsayingthistobenasty sorry for being overly rude if u think I was
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #28 posted 12/06/03 8:00pm

psykosoul

rdhull said:

imnotsayingthistobenasty sorry for being overly rude if u think I was


Damn rd, can't you be "tender" sometimes. lol
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Reply #29 posted 12/06/03 8:56pm

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Supernova said:

It's what happens to spineless adults.


Let's get real here.
I think most of P's women put up with things that they wouldn't put up with,if they were dealing with any other man.
How long did Susannah,or Sheila put up with his stuff,and kept coming back for more?
If I elaborate,I will sound like Natasha/Muffy or whatever her name is.
I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos
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